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More evidence against the Global Warming Scam. [Link]

Yep, and the Warmists will say that it's just a process of "normalizing"...

the data (and according to them you have to be a scientist to understand what that even means).

It's all poppycock. Just as the guy said, if you are correcting actual errors, you would have roughly as many lower temps as higher and they would tend to cancel each other out. The scientists are using "normalization" as a cover for outright manipulation.
 
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Tired of that scare tactic.
A study led by Duke University showed that natural variability in surface temperatures, caused by interactions between the ocean and atmosphere, and other natural factors, can account for observed changes in the recent rates of warming from decade to decade.
 
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Tired of that scare tactic.
A study led by Duke University showed that natural variability in surface temperatures, caused by interactions between the ocean and atmosphere, and other natural factors, can account for observed changes in the recent rates of warming from decade to decade.


Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?
 
Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?

Not really sure what you can do when studies reveal that it is a natural occurring phenomenom.
 
You're answering a different question. At the very least would you agree less reliance on middle east countries is a good thing?

Totally agree with that. They can all swim/bath/eat all of their oil for all I care. We have more untapped oil in this country than Saudi Arabia. Commies just won't let us drill for it.
 
Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?
Absolutely. It's being used as a cover by Socialists to kill the Capitalist engine of our economy and justify even greater Government control.

Have you not seen what's going on in California right now? They are blaming their water crisis (which is largely a failure to plan for the future) on Global Warming and now the California government is going to start monitoring water usage of every household and issue huge fines for going over the government approved limit. Meanwhile they are dumping billions of gallons of fresh water into the Pacific ocean to "save" the delta smelt.

This is the type of idiocy that we are headed for in every area of our lives if they aren't stopped.
 
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You're answering a different question. At the very least would you agree less reliance on middle east countries is a good thing?

Less reliance on the crazies would be a very good thing. Frustrating part is that no matter how much we conserve or adjust or rethink our usage of fossil fuel, the Chinese and Indians and Russians are going to do whatever they want to do (very unlikely to follow our lead in lock step on anything). How do we control them (a tweeting campaign?) along with more recent industrialization of Africa and Central and South America, where even less leverage for "climate change" over economic opportunity will ever exist. So, yes, there is reason for us to improve our ways, but only and ultimately for self admiration. OUR percentage will NOT even slow down climate change.
 
Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?
 
The "fix" as you call it will cost trillions, a lower standard of living as a result of all the restrictions on fossil fuels among other govt mandated restrictions. From what I've heard if EVERYTHING the climate change advocates was enacted it would lower world temps less than 1degree. Doesn't sound like a good trade off to me.
 
Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?

Is anything being done in the name of global warming a danger to society? Are you serious??????

YES....Billions of dollars are being WASTED on global warming...or since that failed to be true....the current scam name...climate change.
 
The leftist nutjobs are to stupid to realize global warming is a man made fake problem to gain more government control. Just as many of you have stated above, the libs are only looking for more control, if really serious about environmental issues they would make the other countries follow the "rules of socially engineered environmental control". We need to pull the plug in Washington and save the US. I wonder how much of this idiotic propaganda they really believe. God save the republic, we are losing our freedoms to these pseudo-intellectuals.
 
Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?
Great in theory, not so much in practice. How about if we do it all, wind, solar, hydrogen cells, AND, we harvest our own oil and gas reserves, and then the USA controls the price, instead of some sheik?
 
Great in theory, not so much in practice. How about if we do it all, wind, solar, hydrogen cells, AND, we harvest our own oil and gas reserves, and then the USA controls the price, instead of some sheik?
Some sheik doesn't control the price , wing nut
 
A few responses:

-As I said previously, even if "california was dumping a ton of water in the pacific" or whatever what was said (not nearly that simple), I'll take upholding the letter of the law over ppl being able to water their lawns. Not to mention, I guarn-damn-tee you the amount being "dumped in the pacific" is not going to make the difference needed so everyone in california can water their lawns.

-I'm pretty sure China is actually either leading or will soon take the lead on developing renewable energy. Do I think they are doing it to reduce pollution for us louts? Hell no but at the very least it's an unintended consequence.

-I don't mind some development domestically. I think fracking is a lot more dangerous than the energy companies are letting on and at the very least extremely distructive but have given us some cheaper domestic energy. I do think the goal should be to not be reliant on any fossil fuels no matter how difficult that would be. Alaska is the last true wilderness this country has. I think it needs to stay how it is.

-Ppl keep pointing out that the damage is more money spent but my whole point is, no matter the reason, what we will get for money spent will be beneficial to all of us in the long run.
 
By the way thanks to the new board I was able to look back and see that ppl had responded to my post. Thanks yahoo.
 
Let me ask y'all this - is anything that is being done to thwart global warming or whatever you want to call it a danger to society? Think about it - move to renewables, less reliance on bat**** crazy shahs and shieks, less pollution, less sickness - right?

Even if they are wrong, won't everything that we do to "fix" it be great in the long run?

Let economics take care of it, the more people become aware of the value of certain behaviors then they will change how they do things. Economics and value is not all about the price. Economic, not politics, can take care of these problems over time.
 
If it were just a matter of developing alternate energy to hydrocarbons, that would be fine. The problem is that the UN wants to morph this movement into a global socialist scheme. Richer n ations have been told they should contribute $100B/PER YR starting in 2020 to the 3rd world to combat global warming. Of course the USA will be on the hook for the lion's share of this. How and if this money would do anything to halt global warming is unclear. All govts in the West are for anything that would bring in more revenue.
 
The leftist nutjobs are to stupid to realize global warming is a man made fake problem to gain more government control. Just as many of you have stated above, the libs are only looking for more control, if really serious about environmental issues they would make the other countries follow the "rules of socially engineered environmental control". We need to pull the plug in Washington and save the US. I wonder how much of this idiotic propaganda they really believe. God save the republic, we are losing our freedoms to these pseudo-intellectuals.


If it were just a matter of developing alternate energy to hydrocarbons, that would be fine. The problem is that the UN wants to morph this movement into a global socialist scheme. Richer n ations have been told they should contribute $100B/PER YR starting in 2020 to the 3rd world to combat global warming. Of course the USA will be on the hook for the lion's share of this. How and if this money would do anything to halt global warming is unclear. All govts in the West are for anything that would bring in more revenue.

Looks like you at least addressed the above poster's concerns.
 
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