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Scalia's death could not have come at a worse time for our dysfunctional, "Gong Show" government. Ugly will not be enough to describe how things will be over the next 8 months. Not sure SNL can make it funny any more.
 
Scalia's death could not have come at a worse time for our dysfunctional, "Gong Show" government. Ugly will not be enough to describe how things will be over the next 8 months. Not sure SNL can make it funny any more.
It's bad the last debate just let trump atack others it's bad. Both sides
 
Oh... the uglier it is in reality the funnier it will be on SNL.

As it is... I think the GOP was dumb on this one. By flat out stating that they won't consider any nominee regardless of how conservative they might be, they've signaled this is entirely about partisanship.

They could have waited until Obama nominated someone and then panned them as liberal and refused to confirm them... and they could have pinned the blame on Obama. But by coming out ahead of time and saying it doesn't matter, they've accepted the fact that a seat on the supreme court will be vacant for over a year entirely because of their obstructionism.

Democrats will be able to use that against GOP candidates for the senate in states like Florida, Illinois, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Missouri. 7 of those 9 seats are currently GOP held... and those states are much less likely to cheer blatant obstructionism to keep "the other side" from winning. The people deciding those elections don't view either side as the "enemy" so blatant partisan politics doesn't work as well. If Kelly Ayotte, Mark Kirk, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman or Ron Johnson endorse McConnell's "block everyone" plan... it hurts them badly in the general election.
 
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Oh... the uglier it is in reality the funnier it will be on SNL.

As it is... I think the GOP was dumb on this one. By flat out stating that they won't consider any nominee regardless of how conservative they might be, they've signaled this is entirely about partisanship.

They could have waited until Obama nominated someone and then panned them as liberal and refused to confirm them... and they could have pinned the blame on Obama. But by coming out ahead of time and saying it doesn't matter, they've accepted the fact that a seat on the supreme court will be vacant for over a year entirely because of their obstructionism.

Democrats will be able to use that against GOP candidates for the senate in states like Florida, Illinois, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Missouri. 7 of those 9 seats are currently GOP held... and those states are much less likely to cheer blatant obstructionism to keep "the other side" from winning. The people deciding those elections don't view either side as the "enemy" so blatant partisan politics doesn't work as well. If Kelly Ayotte, Mark Kirk, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman or Ron Johnson endorse McConnell's "block everyone" plan... it hurts them badly in the general election.
It depends I think they hold the seats. If sanders is running. It also depends who he picks and also hilrey. Prosecution I don't think voters care about the senate blocking the vote.
I just think America is fed up with the dems and the rinos. Hell trump will the damn thing.
 
Oh... the uglier it is in reality the funnier it will be on SNL.

As it is... I think the GOP was dumb on this one. By flat out stating that they won't consider any nominee regardless of how conservative they might be, they've signaled this is entirely about partisanship.

They could have waited until Obama nominated someone and then panned them as liberal and refused to confirm them... and they could have pinned the blame on Obama. But by coming out ahead of time and saying it doesn't matter, they've accepted the fact that a seat on the supreme court will be vacant for over a year entirely because of their obstructionism.

Democrats will be able to use that against GOP candidates for the senate in states like Florida, Illinois, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Missouri. 7 of those 9 seats are currently GOP held... and those states are much less likely to cheer blatant obstructionism to keep "the other side" from winning. The people deciding those elections don't view either side as the "enemy" so blatant partisan politics doesn't work as well. If Kelly Ayotte, Mark Kirk, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman or Ron Johnson endorse McConnell's "block everyone" plan... it hurts them badly in the general election.

McConnell and Reid and so many of the other usual faces in DC simply creep me out, and I am a creep. The real comedy and tragedy within our "system" of government is how completely burdened it is by all the special interests influence. It's almost as if there are so many different points of view to consider and to pacify that NOTHING substantial or efficient or effective EVER gets done! And we the people just shrug and/or wink and giggle and say "there they go again," like we're watching a freaking cat video. Will we ever see effective, productive and efficient government in action? And at what cost?
 
Ps I think Rubio keeps his senate seat. I think trump will tie a nose around the dems. And say you want 4 more years of there shit.
 
McConnell and Reid and so many of the other usual faces in DC simply creep me out, and I am a creep. The real comedy and tragedy within our "system" of government is how completely burdened it is by all the special interests influence. It's almost as if there are so many different points of view to consider and to pacify that NOTHING substantial or efficient or effective EVER gets done! And we the people just shrug and/or wink and giggle and say "there they go again," like we're watching a freaking cat video. Will we ever see effective, productive and efficient government in action? And at what cost?
Peope Like trump get elected rich people think. I can run for senate or get a guy to run. That's the only way
 
McConnell and Reid and so many of the other usual faces in DC simply creep me out, and I am a creep. The real comedy and tragedy within our "system" of government is how completely burdened it is by all the special interests influence. It's almost as if there are so many different points of view to consider and to pacify that NOTHING substantial or efficient or effective EVER gets done! And we the people just shrug and/or wink and giggle and say "there they go again," like we're watching a freaking cat video. Will we ever see effective, productive and efficient government in action? And at what cost?

Sadly no, this country is f*cked. Just read any political thread on this board, the vitriol, anger, and outright disrespect for one another and their opinion shows you why this country is doomed. In 50 years we're going to look like Mexico. The middle class will be gone. The politicians and the special interests will carve this country into pieces. Divide and conquer.
 
Oh... the uglier it is in reality the funnier it will be on SNL.

As it is... I think the GOP was dumb on this one. By flat out stating that they won't consider any nominee regardless of how conservative they might be, they've signaled this is entirely about partisanship.

They could have waited until Obama nominated someone and then panned them as liberal and refused to confirm them... and they could have pinned the blame on Obama. But by coming out ahead of time and saying it doesn't matter, they've accepted the fact that a seat on the supreme court will be vacant for over a year entirely because of their obstructionism.

Democrats will be able to use that against GOP candidates for the senate in states like Florida, Illinois, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Missouri. 7 of those 9 seats are currently GOP held... and those states are much less likely to cheer blatant obstructionism to keep "the other side" from winning. The people deciding those elections don't view either side as the "enemy" so blatant partisan politics doesn't work as well. If Kelly Ayotte, Mark Kirk, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman or Ron Johnson endorse McConnell's "block everyone" plan... it hurts them badly in the general election.

Not to mention that Ted Cruz will have a hard time campaigning from a seat on the Judiciary Committee. Trump will be able to hang the obstructionism on Cruz and his candidacy is doomed.

The smart play would be for the Republicans to accept a centrist judge like Srinivasan and cut their losses. Unfortunately the Republicans have gone full retard and they will lose the Senate, the White House, and up to 3 Supreme Court seats during the Clinton or Sanders administrations.
 
Oh... the uglier it is in reality the funnier it will be on SNL.

As it is... I think the GOP was dumb on this one. By flat out stating that they won't consider any nominee regardless of how conservative they might be, they've signaled this is entirely about partisanship.

They could have waited until Obama nominated someone and then panned them as liberal and refused to confirm them... and they could have pinned the blame on Obama. But by coming out ahead of time and saying it doesn't matter, they've accepted the fact that a seat on the supreme court will be vacant for over a year entirely because of their obstructionism.

Democrats will be able to use that against GOP candidates for the senate in states like Florida, Illinois, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Missouri. 7 of those 9 seats are currently GOP held... and those states are much less likely to cheer blatant obstructionism to keep "the other side" from winning. The people deciding those elections don't view either side as the "enemy" so blatant partisan politics doesn't work as well. If Kelly Ayotte, Mark Kirk, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman or Ron Johnson endorse McConnell's "block everyone" plan... it hurts them badly in the general election.
So you believe this only plays one way? More Americans care about who's on the Court than you think. And seeing how they re-wrote the obamacare law twice. Ppl don't want another left wing unqualified kook on the court
 
Not to mention that Ted Cruz will have a hard time campaigning from a seat on the Judiciary Committee. Trump will be able to hang the obstructionism on Cruz and his candidacy is doomed.

The smart play would be for the Republicans to accept a centrist judge like Srinivasan and cut their losses. Unfortunately the Republicans have gone full retard and they will lose the Senate, the White House, and up to 3 Supreme Court seats during the Clinton or Sanders administrations.
If that happens you want have a pot to piss in. Pug will look like a refugee just off the boat.
 
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Hard choices need to be made, but no one. NO ONE is willing to make them. Nothing is done without the primary consideration being the political gain or advantage. That sucks for us aka "we the people." Remember us? Evidently most of "us" do not. We're only looking for entertainment and the least amount of thought possible.
 
So you believe this only plays one way? More Americans care about who's on the Court than you think. And seeing how they re-wrote the obamacare law twice. Ppl don't want another left wing unqualified kook on the court

I think moderates are more concerned about congress doing their job then they are about the court's ideology. One of the most effective democratic attacks on the GOP is when they accuse them of blocking everything for partisan reasons rather than letting congress vote as was intended. Just like one of the most effective attacks for the GOP against the Democrats is when they accuse them of working outside of the rules in the constitution to implement policy.

In fact, the GOP often uses the later to effectively defend themselves from the former. But in this case they can't... because they're the ones who are ignoring the constitution.

You are welcome to try to win elections without moderates. In about 15-20 states the GOP can do just that. Similarly... there are 15-20 states where democrats can similarly largely ignore moderates in elections. But the other 10-20 states... you can't. And those determine control of the senate and the white house. And the GOP move is not likely to appeal to moderates.... just their base.

As I said... they COULD have done the same thing (made sure no Obama nominee got confirmed) without making themselves look obstructionist. The stupid part was they didn't give themselves cover with moderates because they announced what they were doing. It's just... dumb.
 
Ps I think Rubio keeps his senate seat. I think trump will tie a nose around the dems. And say you want 4 more years of there shit.

Rubio announced he's not seeking re-election to the senate and has claimed that even if he drops out of the presidential race he will not try to enter the senate race (though he could at any point prior to May 6th). FYI.
 
I think moderates are more concerned about congress doing their job then they are about the court's ideology. One of the most effective democratic attacks on the GOP is when they accuse them of blocking everything for partisan reasons rather than letting congress vote as was intended. Just like one of the most effective attacks for the GOP against the Democrats is when they accuse them of working outside of the rules in the constitution to implement policy.

In fact, the GOP often uses the later to effectively defend themselves from the former. But in this case they can't... because they're the ones who are ignoring the constitution.

You are welcome to try to win elections without moderates. In about 15-20 states the GOP can do just that. Similarly... there are 15-20 states where democrats can similarly largely ignore moderates in elections. But the other 10-20 states... you can't. And those determine control of the senate and the white house. And the GOP move is not likely to appeal to moderates.... just their base.

As I said... they COULD have done the same thing (made sure no Obama nominee got confirmed) without making themselves look obstructionist. The stupid part was they didn't give themselves cover with moderates because they announced what they were doing. It's just... dumb.

The Republican Party is being led by folks who are determined to go full retard, and they're about to reap the rewards of such foolishness. Hopefully it will disintegrate the party and usher in another Progressive Era.
 
I think moderates are more concerned about congress doing their job then they are about the court's ideology. One of the most effective democratic attacks on the GOP is when they accuse them of blocking everything for partisan reasons rather than letting congress vote as was intended. Just like one of the most effective attacks for the GOP against the Democrats is when they accuse them of working outside of the rules in the constitution to implement policy.

In fact, the GOP often uses the later to effectively defend themselves from the former. But in this case they can't... because they're the ones who are ignoring the constitution.

You are welcome to try to win elections without moderates. In about 15-20 states the GOP can do just that. Similarly... there are 15-20 states where democrats can similarly largely ignore moderates in elections. But the other 10-20 states... you can't. And those determine control of the senate and the white house. And the GOP move is not likely to appeal to moderates.... just their base.

As I said... they COULD have done the same thing (made sure no Obama nominee got confirmed) without making themselves look obstructionist. The stupid part was they didn't give themselves cover with moderates because they announced what they were doing. It's just... dumb.

Man you're a walking cliche. Mitt won the moderates big!! People are concerned about a bunch of left wing hacks on the Court. Look at those on their now, there's not a serious person on that side of the court, they're all left wing moonbats who don't have anything in common with the American people.

I mean obstructionist? Why is it you never hear that about Democrats? And how can Repubs be obstructionist when POSOTUS has got everything he wants.

No, I think the repubs would welcome the debate. No more Ruth Buzzy Ginsbergs , or Wise Latina's or Moonbat lesbians
 
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