The demands by the students are ridiculous and the colleges are reaping what they have sown. They want the president to admit his white privilege and basically run the school.
Are we headed for a race war?
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Short answer, no, We are not headed for a race war.
I really don't know enough about The UM situation, or at least the circumstances leading to the demand and resignation to form a qualified opinion just yet.
I do think the black students at Yale who are on video cursing at and demanding a professor design his position and ''get out of Yale'' because he voiced what seems to Me a reasonable position were out of line and it made me uneasy watching it.
I really don't know enough about The UM situation, or at least the circumstances leading to the demand and resignation to form a qualified opinion just yet.
I do think the black students at Yale who are on video cursing at and demanding a professor design his position and ''get out of Yale'' because he voiced what seems to Me a reasonable position were out of line and it made me uneasy watching it.
That was mild. You should get a load of what passes for debate. The raw hate and racism expressed by the "participants" on the national level is at the gutter level. The left has created this monster and is now being eaten by it. Like a lab experiment that went wrong and the culture they created is out of control and multiplying. Ugly to watch.
I disagree with your assertion that ''the left has created this''. There is much venom on the right as well. The vitriol since Obama took office has been extremely negative from his enemies on the right.
I do think We're getting into problematic waters when minorities start making unreasonable demands on universities. That is one component of a complicated set of issues though.
Actually the bigger question is "should the first amendment apply on campuses only if you agree with what's being said".....I understand that sentence contains a lot of microaggressions so it could be my white privilege speaking but come on. And if your "safe space" (excuse me while I lol or gag whichever comes first) is a public place and one that I as a member of the public cannot invade then where is my "safe space" or am I not allowed one since others (the rads) don't agree with what I'm saying.
And btw, the left owns this, lock, stock and barrel. I and my ilk only want personal freedoms. And my independence and rights respected. The liberal left has interpreted my personal freedom in terms of it only being respected if they agree with my politics and speech. Now their freedom of expression and "space" is being swept aside by a more radical group of extreme leftists. Who are turning their disregard for my freedom into a disregard for them. Karma.
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Your argument is too macro for my view. I do think students deserve an environment that isn't hostile, isolating, dismissive or culturally exclusive. It's the specifics in the Yale case that bothers Me. I didn't read anything in the professor's words that seemed over the line. I think there is value in diverse points of view, regardless of whether they offend people. I'll go so far as saying people need to hear points of view that are outside their comfort zones, particularly in a university setting.
To quote a great American songwriter, "Dont criticize what you can't understand...your sons and your daughters are beyond your command...your old road is rapidly aging...please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times they are a-changing."
More gibberish from one who can't stand on logic or intellect therefore must constantly deflect and reach and weakly divert. Drugs are no substitute for reality. And using the mishmash coming from a seriously drug altered mind in a search for reason or sanity to confirm one's beliefs is a Hail Mary at best. LOL! Any port in a storm however.
Speaking of macro the issue gets down to whose defining hostile in that someone who doesn't agree with me turns hostile the way the screaming, yelling, molotov cocktail slinging, gun toting, shooting and yes dismissive students and black lives thugs show their hostility. And as to culturally exclusive whose deciding that when a white person is not allowed to have an opinion or say simply because of the color of his skin. Or his or her years or their middle classness. Or is dismissed because he or she represents "white privilege". So please do get down to specifics because that is key to my and all reasonable folks argument or discomfort. Because when you do get down to specifics this whole Mizzou protest thing explodes. There are none that would rise to the level of angst. A druggie overlaying a swastika which is offensive to "JEWS" whom the left and blacks both mutually abhor. So that's out. A confrontation where who knows who called who what and even if they did...SO WHAT in these days of over the top name calling. Coming primarily from radical left like the groups I mentioned above. Telling them they are not allowed to insult is like cutting their tongues out of their mouths.
And for the record we both agree here in principal. State your case, tell it like it is but be prepared for other views and the rebuttal something the left refuses to do. And finally an SGA guy "SAYS" some guys in a pickup called him the N word. I'll go on record and say he's lying. He should have been more creative....some white guys in a pickup, yeah right. Did you shoot them the bird too? LOL!
And Boo freaking Hoo, a privileged prima donna athlete loses some games and gets his feelings hurt so he joins a protest to protect his safe space by ?firing the school president? who really played no part in anything. Get your sorry azz in the weight room and win some games. Get your pitiful butt to class and learn something other than football and do something with your life. That's a great way to prevent your becoming a loser at life too and the best revenge. And be a friend and good neighbor to everyone even if they are white. That's specific.
Bob Dylan's lyrics apply, even 52 years later, to clueless reactionaries like you. You don't understand young people nor do you have a remote clue about what life is like for African-Americans. But, hey, keep pulling those "profound" thoughts out of your backside. You're a regular barbershop philosopher.
No, its not. These racist thugs and professional victim class are causing Americans to wake up from the Obama hangover. We won't give in to these marxist leeches. Now you liberals will curl up like the pussies you are and feel good about your selves ....right up until they turn and destroy you. This thing at MIZZU is all based on lies, none of that BS happened. Its just more leftist moonbat BS
Dylan's lyrics applied to his bottom line financially same as it did then. Tailored to make $$ off you drug store protesters. We used to sing that crap and laugh like hell in the military but frankly we liked Smokey Robinson and the Miracles better. Hold me while I lmao @ your reactionary language. You really do fancy yourself as a real live communist don't you. My brother is the only one I actually know but he denies the hell out of it. You (at least in your mind) would make number two. Are you required to register anymore? As to understanding young people you seem to be somewhat ignorant to there being billions upon billions of them. Not two of them exactly alike. Having raised four recently, being one of a family of nine children, serving in the military for four years with hundreds of thousands, 15 mos of which were under trying circumstances, attending a large public university, then managing a business largely consisting of folks in the twenties and thirties (over 8.000 in all) I will agree that understanding one person is difficult. The most difficult to understand of all being myself. But you have the perfect solution apparently. Reduce them all to one single train of thought and complexity and there you go. Your remarks were those of a damn fool if you really believe what you posted, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and say you are just naive and maybe stirring.
BTW, I was brought up in the country, poorer than the black Rogers family who place adjoined ours, nine of us children and T-W-E-N-T-Y O-N-E little ones in their brood. Picked cotton, chopped cotton, hoed peanuts, stacked peanuts, pulled corn, gathered junk iron on every Sat of my life for a time with six of the Rogers boys in the back of my father's old flat bed. Was birthed by Ms Nancy. Ate the same government commodities. Worked in The Woods (and if you have to ask what that is you are naive) with Mr Lemon after school holding the mules while he and the bigger Rogers boys and my brothers cut timber, drug it and loaded it on his old log truck. Went through training, lived in the open barracks and laid in the field, ate chow, fought and scrapped with and partied with black troops for four years. LOL! And I live in Georgia now. Yeah I would likely be stone shocked at how black folks live. (BAAAWAAAHAAAAHAAAAA!) You don't know shiat from shinola. I think back on all that and how we came up and that makes it easy for me to excuse away my brother being a communist. He was nationalized into the regular army at 16 during the Berlin crisis since he joined the Guard @ 15 for money which we were all madly chasing all the time. I, probably unlike most fa-t blossoms, maybe you, had some real reasons to protest but the army sent me to college and I scuffled out of my circumstances. It left some marks but again there you go. So unless you have drug an 8 ft drag sack or even know what one is please go stand in the corner with all your silly little naive chums.
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