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Brief study in leadership

People are always amazed by what a88h*les do to gain attention.
This came out just yesterday for the record, from Pew: (source: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/)

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Obviously either you have never been a leader or fail to understand the meaning of leadership, because your entire post has nothing to do with leadership.
 
This came out just yesterday for the record, from Pew: (source: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/)

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Yes, they love it when the US agrees to a socialist agenda and globalization that gives them more access to US funds and resources, at the expense of Americans and without any concession from them.

The G-7 were certainly all giddy that Biden wants us to dump trillions into climate change, when we're the ones ahead of every world standard.

Regardless of how one feels about the issue, the real progress is to be had by other countries (like China and the Baltic nations) exercising a working commitment, and maybe trying to catch up with us.

There's a difference between respecting actual leadership that motivates people to action vs. liking the guy that always picks up the check.
 
Yes, they love it when the US agrees to a socialist agenda and globalization that gives them more access to US funds and resources, at the expense of Americans and without any concession from them.

The G-7 were certainly all giddy that Biden wants us to dump trillions into climate change, when we're the ones ahead of every world standard.

Regardless of how one feels about the issue, the real progress is to be had by other countries (like China and the Baltic nations) exercising a working commitment, and maybe trying to catch up with us.

There's a difference between respecting actual leadership that motivates people to action vs. liking the guy that always picks up the check.
These are, by and large, the world's democracies, huge trading partners, strategic and philosophical allies.
 
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These are, by and large, the world's democracies, huge trading partners, strategic and philosophical allies.

They are Globalist first , and they don't pay their way . High taxes and high unemployment are pretty much standard procedure for many on that list , lived there , as they say ," been there done that " !
 
and body language. See if you can pick the alpha in each scene.

Zona, you come across as a reasonable guy much of the time, so it is interesting to me that you think that preening ball of narcissistic insecurity and his embarrassingly awkward push to the front of a group of world leaders is a good example of leadership. I get you love his policies or how he sticks it to the libs. I get all of that. But to say he is a great leader is hard to understand.

True Alphas aren't constantly complaining about how unfair everything is and playing the victim. They are too busy being productive in the world in which they live. They aren't blaming everybody else, they are leading by example.

 
Zona, you come across as a reasonable guy much of the time, so it is interesting to me that you think that preening ball of narcissistic insecurity and his embarrassingly awkward push to the front of a group of world leaders is a good example of leadership. I get you love his policies or how he sticks it to the libs. I get all of that. But to say he is a great leader is hard to understand.

True Alphas aren't constantly complaining about how unfair everything is and playing the victim. They are too busy being productive in the world in which they live. They aren't blaming everybody else, they are leading by example.

I see where you get that, but I also see the response of the others in the group to Trump. Very brief, but interesting.

I also understand the mixed dynamic of those who would say they enjoyed the benefits of working with other US Presidents, versus how they respond to the guy that was more of a challenge and less generous.

The G7 politicians must certainly welcome one of their own (a member of the club, as Macron said) as opposed to a boat rocker. However, Trump got demonstrably better results for our country in foreign policy.
 
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I see where you get that, but I also see the response of the others in the group to Trump. Very brief, but interesting.

I also understand the mixed dynamic of those who would say they enjoyed the benefits of working with other US Presidents, versus how they respond to the guy that was more of a challenge and less generous.

The G7 politicians must certainly welcome one of their own as opposed to a boat rocker. However, Trump got demonstrably better results for our country in foreign policy.
Time may prove you correct, but six months in to an administration is a little early to judge the effectiveness of their foreign policy.

Of course, as a history guy, I would
prefer to have at least a decade to analyze all the direct and indirect impacts of a President’s foreign policy before passing judgement, but that isn’t very useful when tying to inform voting decisions.
 
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True Alphas aren't constantly complaining about how unfair everything is and playing the victim. They are too busy being productive in the world in which they live. They aren't blaming everybody else, they are leading by example.

That's pretty rich. Biden & the Democrats literally have built their entire platform around complaining about how unfair everything is & playing- or making people & groups feel like- the victim. They push victimhood through identity politics and convince everyone who isn't a straight White Christian male that they are being held down & have no chance to succeed other than through the "generosity" and policies they champion. They literally preach to these people & groups that they should blame others for their failures or shortcomings. They don't champion personal responsibility or individual achievement. They are not true leaders, or "true alphas"- they don't actually even want to lead in the true sense of the word- they simply use those "below them" in their never-ending quest to accumulate power.
 
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Zona, you come across as a reasonable guy much of the time, so it is interesting to me that you think that preening ball of narcissistic insecurity and his embarrassingly awkward push to the front of a group of world leaders is a good example of leadership. I get you love his policies or how he sticks it to the libs. I get all of that. But to say he is a great leader is hard to understand.

True Alphas aren't constantly complaining about how unfair everything is and playing the victim. They are too busy being productive in the world in which they live. They aren't blaming everybody else, they are leading by example.


Leaders also allow people in the room to disagree and vigorously debate their position but then makes a decision and expect their subordinates to abide by and implement their position. Pols in DC have become a group that are all about focus groups, self enrichment and getting reelected.

Love Trump or hate Trump, he staked out policy and fought for those policies. IDGAF if Merkel didn't like it when Trump called her out for trying to buy crude from Russia. IDGAF is Macron got his panties in a wad when Trump pressured him to actually respect sanctions on Iran. IDGAF if Trump called those working to subvert his agenda childish names.

I do think it's comical that all those that cried about Putin for 4 yrs are now making excuses for a guy that just gave his economy a giant boost, gave Iran money they used to rearm Hamas and has a son that has executed the exact type of deals they warned us the Trump kids would pursue.
 
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This came out just yesterday for the record, from Pew: (source: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/)

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Obviously those countries had no confidence in Trump letting them slide on NATO dues and crappy trade deals. Obama and W bent over to those countries; Obama literally bowed and scraped. With the exception of 2 or 3, those countries are worn out and love a weak America and hate a strong America. Of course those countries had no confidence in Trump. He killed W’s NAFTA giveaway and Obama’s TPP proposed giveaway. He‘d still be negotiating more equitable deals with all those countries if you voters had not decided you were happier bent over to them.
 
Obviously those countries had no confidence in Trump letting them slide on NATO dues and crappy trade deals. Obama and W bent over to those countries; Obama literally bowed and scraped. With the exception of 2 or 3, those countries are worn out and love a weak America and hate a strong America. Of course those countries had no confidence in Trump. He killed W’s NAFTA giveaway and Obama’s TPP proposed giveaway. He‘d still be negotiating more equitable deals with all those countries if you voters had not decided you were happier bent over to them.
Say what you will about bending over, but the world watched while Putin watched as Trump fellated Rocket Man. We all watched while Erdogan et al took a sh*t on our nation's capitol. etc.

The OP tried to suggest by posting a video that somehow our allies who were at the G7 had regard for Trump. I think that has been conclusively shown to be absurd.
 
Say what you will about bending over, but the world watched while Putin watched as Trump fellated Rocket Man. We all watched while Erdogan et al took a sh*t on our nation's capitol. etc.

The OP tried to suggest by posting a video that somehow our allies who were at the G7 had regard for Trump. I think that has been conclusively shown to be absurd.
No, but the degree to which some can block out everything they don't want to see is on display. There's nothing conclusive to others about the voices in one's head.
 
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No, but the degree to which some can block out everything they don't want to see is on display. There's nothing conclusive to others about the voices in one's head.
That's rich, since you started this thread talking about "body language" and presuming to know by where their eyes go what G7 leaders thought of Trump.

Body language: like a bratty little schoolboy.

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That's rich, since you started this thread talking about "body language" and presuming to know by where their eyes go what G7 leaders thought of Trump.

Body language: like a bratty little schoolboy.

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He's not the only one with arms crossed , if that is what you think looks bratty .
 
He's not the only one with arms crossed , if that is what you think looks bratty .
Abe never knew what to make of Trump. That video of their first meeting and epic 19 second handshake is a classic.

But to be clear, this photo was sold as Merkel schooling him, and illustrated many articles about the US’s loss of stature among its allies.
 
His body language says "narcissist" IMO. Feel free to ask other folks who know body language if they objectively see something different. I mean it *screams* narcissism.

Interesting note in those polling numbers above. Bush hated about as bad as Trump by the Euros.

If you are known by your enemies, interesting that almost exactly the same folks dislike Bush and Trump. They do not appear to think there is no difference in Obama/Bush/Biden.

But I dye grits.
 
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