9 wins is still a good season
Nope if they beat Ohio state and still plays us then they kick out butI'm not so sure I want to play a Harbough coached Michigan with this offense.
I'd take it and run with it. The D will keep it close and God obviously doesn't like Jim Harbaugh. May even go see Mickey while in the area.All Disney Dawgs unite at Disney World. Very cool.
I hope you choke while practicing deepthroating a corn dog and have to be Heimliched by a fat girl that falls for you afterwards.I hope we lose to tech and the bowl game
When we get rapped by Michigan what happensI hope you choke on a corn dog and have to be Heimliched by a fat girl that falls for you afterwards.
That's a competitive matchup with them a favorite. For whatever reason, SEC matches up well vs Big Ten, historically. Like 25 years historically, not just last year.When we get rapped by Michigan what happens
So have you Sean MichiganThat's a competitive matchup with them a favorite. For whatever reason, SEC matches up well vs Big Ten, historically. Like 25 years historically, not just last year.
Are you sure want to face a Michigan or ohiostate you sure.Sounds good to me. I hope for the highest ranked available team. I would like to get a shot at Urban Crier, but Michigan would be interesting.
On TV vs MSU. Will get another look this weekend.So have you Sean Michigan
True, but that's usually with teams who are paired comprably. We are a below .500 team who may back into a 9-3 record.That's a competitive matchup with them a favorite. For whatever reason, SEC matches up well vs Big Ten, historically. Like 25 years historically, not just last year.
Your perception doesn't match the facts on the ground. We haven't lost to anyone yet that wasn't pretty good, so I think we're better than a below .500 team. Georgia's defense is stout. 4th in the conference and top 20 nationally in yards allowed per game? The offense is vanilla and below average since Chubb's injury, but we have real threats in Michel, Mitchell and McKenzie and an emerging Godwin. It seems to have worked better in the last three weeks with Richt helping out with the play calling. Lambert is average. Not quite Joe Cox, but that's where he'll be next year if they need him. The O-line is slightly above average. Auburn is a .500 team that will have the record it deserves. They thumped A&M. We're better than Auburn and probably better than A&M, which is going to finish 9-3 or 8-4. Kentucky is going to be 6-6 or 5-7. We're clearly several touchdowns better than they are. We may not be quite as good as Tennessee, but are in that range.True, but that's usually with teams who are paired comprably. We are a below .500 team who may back into a 9-3 record.
'We haven't lost to anyone that was pretty good, but other than the teams we've lost to, we've played exceptionally bad teams, and have slogged to get wins. This is the worst schedule we've played in decades. Before this year, many pointed to our 2011 schedule as the worst, but we played 7 bowl teams during the regular season and two in the post season. Aubun, by a wide margin (a team who is last in the West) was hands down the fourth best team we played this year. Our schedule is profoundly bad. Go look at our 2013 schedule. The only teams we could reasonable project as wins with that schedule, would be North Texas, Appalachian State and Kentucky. Don't just assume that our defense would automatically navigate our way through a normal schedule. Right now, I'd say our offenses and defenses are comprable to Vanderbilt and Mizzou. A thin veneer of luck has kept our fortunes better than theirs. If you are as confident about our chances against Michigan, then you'd likely be as confident about Auburn, Vandy's and Mizzou's. Don't assume that I'm unaware of The SEC's history with the Big Ten, but I think it's foolish to ignore cycles, trends and most of all, the eye test. Also, I think you shouldn't toss around the word "fact" so frivolously, when it seems you're doing a lot of conjecture.Your perception doesn't match the facts on the ground. We haven't lost to anyone yet that wasn't pretty good, so I think we're better than a below .500 team. Georgia's defense is stout. 4th in the conference and top 20 nationally in yards allowed per game? The offense is vanilla and below average since Chubb's injury, but we have real threats in Michel, Mitchell and McKenzie and an emerging Godwin. It seems to have worked better in the last three weeks with Richt helping out with the play calling. Lambert is average. Not quite Joe Cox, but that's where he'll be next year if they need him. The O-line is slightly above average. Auburn is a .500 team that will have the record it deserves. They thumped A&M. We're better than Auburn and probably better than A&M, which is going to finish 9-3 or 8-4. Kentucky is going to be 6-6 or 5-7. We're clearly several touchdowns better than they are. We may not be quite as good as Tennessee, but are in that ran'
I saw that game. Indiana played out of their bodies that day, and kept rolling sevens with a perfect gameplan. The problem is, we'd have a harder time running the ball than Indiana, it's the one thing they do well. Michigan's running D is otherwise smothering. And we are a very one dimensional team. They'd have a hard time moving the ball initially, but the truth is, they have figured out how to pass the ball recently (three straight games over 250 passing yards). If something were to give, it likely wouldn't be in our favor. I'd like to know how we score on them. If we couldn't score against Florida, I don't know bow we'd score against Michigan.Michigan has been winning ugly all season. They had to come from behind to force overtime with INDIANA.
I saw that game. Indiana played out of their bodies that day, and kept rolling sevens with a perfect gameplan. The problem is, we'd have a harder time running the ball than Indiana, it's the one thing they do well. Michigan's running D is otherwise smothering. And we are a very one dimensional team. They'd have a hard time moving the ball initially, but the truth is, they have figured out how to pass the ball recently (three straight games over 250 passing yards). If something were to give, it likely wouldn't be in our favor. I'd like to know how we score on them. If we couldn't score against Florida, I don't know bow we'd score against Michigan.
Dude, are you aware of our near misses against crap teams? With any amount of luck we could be below Mizzou and Vandy right now. Look at just about any year, in the CMR era. Look at the schedules game for game, and look at who we were and the teams who we beat and got past us, and you'd be hard pressed to make a case that we'd be over.500 in any of those years. If you think for one second that our record is = to our level of play, then I would love to be a door to door salesman at your house. All the Disney's seem to have a hard time looking at the teams we've beaten, and realizing that they've all struggled mightily to score against moderate competition. We've seen the worst offenses I've seen in my lifetime. And BTW, how can you pump your chest after struggling to score 14 in regulation against GSU?Then how do you account for Michigan's narrow escape against Minnesota? Hell, Bobo almost beat Minnesota with his team!
Dude, are you aware of our near misses against crap teams? With any amount of luck we could be below Mizzou and Vandy right now. Look at just about any year, in the CMR era. Look at the schedules game for game, and look at who we were and the teams who we beat and got past us, and you'd be hard pressed to make a case that we'd be over.500 in any of those years. If you think for one second that our record is = to our level of play, then I would love to be a door to door salesman at your house. All the Disney's seem to have a hard time looking at the teams we've beaten, and realizing that they've all struggled mightily to score against moderate competition. We've seen the worst offenses I've seen in my lifetime. And BTW, how can you pump your chest after struggling to score 14 in regulation against GSU?
There are good reasons The executive Branch calls the shots in wars. General Westmorland would have nuked China if given his way.
I think Obama has been too slow in deciding to attack oil infrastructure and he needs more boots on the ground, but it's his call to make.
I'm not so sure I want to play a Harbough coached Michigan with this offense.
Why? For barely beating teams he should with a coordinating version of a parking brake in CBS?I give Richt all the credit in the world for coaching this team to 8-3. This may have been his greatest coaching job since coming to UGA.
Why? For barely beating teams he should with a coordinating version of a parking brake in CBS?
Okay, that rationalization spiel has nothing to do with barely navigating the luckiest schedule we've ever had. Nothing remarkable about getting smoked by the teams who were better and barely getting by the teams we should beat. Also, CMR is a figurehead/CEO, and one of the least hands-on coaches in the country. Essentially the extent of his "coaching", is speeches, pep talks, the political hob nobbing, some recruiting and making hires (which grades out as an overall failure). So how exactly was this a great coaching job?1. This was a very young team.
2. This team had a terrible QB situation.
3. This team had a catastrophic injury to its best offensive player.
4. This program was beset by negative gossip, rumor mongering from within and without, and negative stories by the media.
Okay, that rationalization spiel has nothing to do with barely navigating the luckiest schedule we've ever had. Nothing remarkable about getting smoked by the teams who were better and barely getting by the teams we should beat. Also, CMR is a figurehead/CEO, and one of the least hands-on coaches in the country. Essentially the extent od his "coaching", is speeches, pep talks, the political hob nobbing, some recruiting and making hires (which grades out as an overall failure). So how exactly was this a great coaching job?
Sorry for taking you seriously. I thought you actually knew something about leadership. Carry on.
Yeah, a weak strawman argument will show me.Sorry for taking you seriously. I thought you actually knew something about leadership. Carry on.
Well, Sir, we beat Auburn, so it's not conjecture that we're better than they. We beat a Kentucky team ( a below .500 team IF they lose to Louisville and that's what you say we are) that will be 5-7 or 6-6 by three touchdowns, so that's not conjecture either. I did speculate that we're better than A&M based on their loss to Auburn and their struggle with South Carolina. I agree that this schedule was the easiest in years, even easier than 2011. This team is better than the 7-5 2009 team, which was robbed vs LSU, and the 2010 team. It's probably on par with the 8-4 2006 team that got blown out by Tennessee, lost to Kentucky and Vanderbilt and squeaked by a bad Colorado team before upsetting Auburn. Not his worst team.You
'We haven't lost to anyone that was pretty good, but other than the teams we've lost to, we've played exceptionally bad teams, and have slogged to get wins. This is the worst schedule we've played in decades. Before this year, many pointed to our 2011 schedule as the worst, but we played 7 bowl teams during the regular season and two in the post season. Aubun, by a wide margin (a team who is last in the West) was hands down the fourth best team we played this year. Our schedule is profoundly bad. Go look at our 2013 schedule. The only teams we could reasonable project as wins with that schedule, would be North Texas, Appalachian State and Kentucky. Don't just assume that our defense would automatically navigate our way through a normal schedule. Right now, I'd say our offenses and defenses are comprable to Vanderbilt and Mizzou. A thin veneer of luck has kept our fortunes better than theirs. If you are as confident about our chances against Michigan, then you'd likely be as confident about Auburn, Vandy's and Mizzou's. Don't assume that I'm unaware of The SEC's history with the Big Ten, but I think it's foolish to ignore cycles, trends and most of all, the eye test. Also, I think you shouldn't toss around the word "fact" so frivolously, when it seems you're doing a lot of conjecture.
I sincerely doubt that we could beat the 2009 team. That team was frustrating, but was very explosive. They beat a very dynamic Arkansas team that would frankly have murdered us. We were a bad matchup for Kentucky. Kentucky was reeling to find an identity during that game with life after Stanley Williams. And I'm not sure how much back slapping we really want to do with that Auburn win (which I'll take obviously), but Malzahn took a defeat out of the jaws of victory by inexplicably changing gameplans when he easily had the momentum. And let's talk about the obvious, Florida. They have not been a good team since Grier was suspended, and they straight murdered us. If you want to bring transitive properties into the cocktail, then you probably don't want to ignore epic beatdowns of GSU, by WVU and Appalachian State. I think most anyone who whose objective, and puts any stock at all into the eye test among other factors and metrics, would have a hard time cobbling together an argument to support your POV. I mean it's a sad state of affairs (with regards to perception) when we are 8-3 and can't crack the AP top 25.Well, Sir, we beat Auburn, so it's not conjecture that we're better than they. We beat a Kentucky team ( a below .500 team IF they lose to Louisville and that's what you say we are) that will be 5-7 or 6-6 by three touchdowns, so that's not conjecture either. I did speculate that we're better than A&M based on their loss to Auburn and their struggle with South Carolina. I agree that this schedule was the easiest in years, even easier than 2011. This team is better than the 7-5 2009 team, which was robbed vs LSU, and the 2010 team. It's probably on par with the 8-4 2006 team that got blown out by Tennessee, lost to Kentucky and Vanderbilt and squeaked by a bad Colorado team before upsetting Auburn. Not his worst team.
I'm not trying to put lipstick on a pig, but neither am I so committed to the "all is lost as long as Richt is there" point of view. I think I'm pretty objective. Agreed on your very last point regarding the rankings, but if they win at Tech, they'll sneak back in. I don't think this lot deserves much more than a 20 to 25 ranking. Let's go back to my earlier point about the defense you discounted. We're giving up fewer yards per game than LSU and are ranked 4th in the conference by that measure, correct? That's not OK, that's good and they're better than they were five weeks ago. Offense is a prayer meeting occasionally interrupted by some individual brilliance. Richt needs to help the OC call the plays. Richt is good at that. They're only averaging 300 ypg since Tennessee, but it should be pointed out they played Mizzou and FL, two very good defenses. As for the comparison, the 2009 team that lost to Kentucky imploded in that game and got blown out by a 7-5 Tennessee team. At least we had an excuse at Tennessee this year and the only two blowouts are by the apparent division champions. Not his worst team.I sincerely doubt that we could beat the 2009 team. That team was frustrating, but was very explosive. They beat a very dynamic Arkansas team that would frankly have murdered us. We were a bad matchup for Kentucky. Kentucky was reeling to find an identity during that game with life after Stanley Williams. And I'm not sure how much back slapping we really want to do with that Auburn win (which I'll take obviously), but Malzahn took a win out of the jaws of victory by inexplicably changing gameplans when he easily had the momentum. And let's talk about the obvious, Florida. They have not been a good team since Grier was suspended, and they straight murdered us. If you want to bring transitive properties into the cocktail, then you probably don't want to ignore epic beatdowns of GSU, by WVU and Appalachian State. I think most anyone who whose objective, and puts any stock at all into the eye test among other factors and metrics, would have a hard time cobbling together an argument to support your POV. I mean it's a sad state of affairs (with regards to perception) when we are 8-3 and can't crack the AP top 25.
Take away the odd means of scoring and UTK would have blown us out. I didn't dismiss our defense. I think you sort of spoke for me. Also, if you want to pump us up so much for our defense alone, I'm not sure how that separates us from Vandy or Mizzou, sans better fortune. I'm not sure you were trying to put lipstick on a pig, but you are supporting an argument that nobody is seeing without clawing imo. Putting far too much stock into history without regards for the obvious change in landscape (whether temporary or not), doesn't speak to the objectivity you're touting. Just being honest. To be an SEC team with threee losses at this stage of the season is stunning right now. If we finally are ranked at 9-3, it would be a default ranking. Also, an argument can be made regarding the team's success this year being fool's gold (and that's clearly the fair perception), and it be mutually exclusive from a wheel's coming off argument (which you also put in my mouth... as I think we're still the consistent 9-3 program, but with a down turn in the cycle, with uber fortuitous scheduling).I'm not trying to put lipstick on a pig, but neither am I so committed to the "all is lost as long as Richt is there" point of view. I think I'm pretty objective. Agreed on your very last point regarding the rankings, but if they win at Tech, they'll sneak back in. I don't think this lot deserves much more than a 20 to 25 ranking. Let's go back to my earlier point about the defense you discounted. We're giving up fewer yards per game than LSU and are ranked 4th in the conference by that measure, correct? That's not OK, that's good and they're better than they were five weeks ago. Offense is a prayer meeting occasionally interrupted by some individual brilliance. Richt needs to help the OC call the plays. Richt is good at that. They're only averaging 300 ypg since Tennessee, but it should be pointed out they played Mizzou and FL, two very good defenses. As for the comparison, the 2009 team that lost to Kentucky imploded in that game and got blown out by a 7-5 Tennessee team. At least we had an excuse at Tennessee this year and the only two blowouts are by the apparent division champions. Not his worst team.
Who's fault it that hmmmmmmmmm Mark Richt1. This was a very young team.
2. This team had a terrible QB situation.
3. This team had a catastrophic injury to its best offensive player.
4. This program was beset by negative gossip, rumor mongering from within and without, and negative stories by the media.
Who's fault it that hmmmmmmmmm Mark Richt
Also, our historically bad offense shouldn't be casually ignored. We only put up one point more than Texas State and The Citadel against GSU in regulation.I'm not trying to put lipstick on a pig, but neither am I so committed to the "all is lost as long as Richt is there" point of view. I think I'm pretty objective. Agreed on your very last point regarding the rankings, but if they win at Tech, they'll sneak back in. I don't think this lot deserves much more than a 20 to 25 ranking. Let's go back to my earlier point about the defense you discounted. We're giving up fewer yards per game than LSU and are ranked 4th in the conference by that measure, correct? That's not OK, that's good and they're better than they were five weeks ago. Offense is a prayer meeting occasionally interrupted by some individual brilliance. Richt needs to help the OC call the plays. Richt is good at that. They're only averaging 300 ypg since Tennessee, but it should be pointed out they played Mizzou and FL, two very good defenses. As for the comparison, the 2009 team that lost to Kentucky imploded in that game and got blown out by a 7-5 Tennessee team. At least we had an excuse at Tennessee this year and the only two blowouts are by the apparent division champions. Not his worst team.
Amazing that you can be somewhat astute with your football comments but so f-ing stupid about everything else.2. Was partially Ramsey's fault. He's been in the program for 3 years.
3. Is Tennessee's awful turf.
4. Is AJC and Greg's fault
1. This was a very young team.
2. This team had a terrible QB situation.
3. This team had a catastrophic injury to its best offensive player.
4. This program was beset by negative gossip, rumor mongering from within and without, and negative stories by the media.