Grade 2 is a partial tear, grade 3 is a full tear. Either way, players usually have full or near full recoveries. It's a far better situation for Nick than if it were an ACL.
Chubb has either a grade 2 or grade 3 PLC sprain, it could be worse...
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Prayers from UK Nation for a quick and total recovery. Seems like a great kid.
When the PCL goes, so does the ACL and the MCL..
ATHENS — Nick Chubb will require surgery on his knee, according to his mother, but the extent of the injury is still unclear.
“It’s not nearly as bad as it could’ve been,” La’Velle Chubb wrote in a Facebook post on Sunday morning.
Nick Chubb tore his PCL (posterior cruciate ligament) along with two other ligaments, according to his mother’s post.
“They’ll wait for swelling to go down to decide when to have surgery. Possibly two (weeks),” La’Velle Chubb wrote. “Nick is in good spirits.”
Chubb injured his left knee on the first play from scrimmage in Georgia’s 38-31 loss at Tennessee. It looked gruesome at first, but head coach Mark Richt said after the game he was “hopeful” it wouldn’t require surgery. Apparently it will, but it’s not clear how extensive the damage is and whether the dreaded ACL tear has occurred
I disagree with your assessment. He has 3 torn ligaments.
So, PCL and then pick two: ACL / MCL / LCL.
It is as bad as it gets.
If the ACL was gone, THAT would be the story. There might be a partial tear, but it would have to be fairly minor or We'd all know about it.
Edit, the only other explanation would be if it wasn't 100% clear and Richt just didn't have the heart to tell The Chubbs. Still, I don't think anybody would tell Mrs Chubb it could have been much worse if he had full tears to 3 ligaments.
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Thankfully the former is the case. No ACL or nerve damage. The chances of tearing a PCL again are remote. He should come back good as ever.
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That's incorrect. I tore my PCL and MCL in a skiing accident but the ACL was fine.
I did not require surgery and now that knee is stronger than my other.
Chubb will have therapy far superior to what I had.....combined with his character and work ethic, I expect to come back in pure bad-ass mode.
Nick is having surgery for the PCL, but thank goodness the ACL is intact. He'll be fine in 8 months or so. Few have his level of talent, even fewer deserve their gifts as much as Nick does.
See my post on the vent about this. He was admitted to the hospital for "observation". The only reason to do that is to evaluate for arterial injury. This means that he de facto dislocated the knee. Pcl, mcl, and lcl along with some meniscus injury IMO. This is a much worse injury than Keith Marshall. Hoping for the best. Love the kid
That was part of my point. Having the surgery will speed his recovery and increase the chances for full recovery.
I did not have sugery and I was back to skiing, running and playing softball within 9 months.
He has no arterial damage, at least that was reported directly from UGA's AD. The ACL is a worse injury than Chubb's according to every report.
I don't know what every report is. Acl tears are routinely fixed on a day to day basis by basically every knee ortho in every city. Posterior dislocations with pcl tears are not routine and are worse as they require damage to the meniscus in most cases and other ligaments. An acl tear can not damage your popliteal artery. Pcl tears can. That's why they admitted him, as pcl tears are worse, harder to fix, and usually involved more damage and can get the artery ending any players career. Pcls with possible dislocations, most regular knee ortho guys refer to specialized sports medicine orthos who essentially only do the tougher cases which chubs seems to fit. I think you can read the tea leaves here. I'm not shooting from the hip. Hoping for the best and Chubb may make a full recovery but this is not as simple as an acl tear like 2-3 players a year get on our team.
The possibility of re-injury from PCL injuries is lower than with ACL injuries, The recovery period is a bit shorter as well. The big difference is long term though. There is no artery, nerve or ACL damage in this case.
This is a better situation for Chubb and his Family than a severed ACL would have been.
Okay. Not going to argue with you but I ask you this. What injury results in players never playing again that involves the knee? A posterior dislocation. Which is what he has. Id take an acl over a posterior dislocation every day. What your failing to understand is that he doesn't just have a simple pcl tear. If he did he wouldn't have been admitted. He has a pcl, mcl, lcl (remember mother said three ligaments but not the acl) and some meniscus damage because he has a posterior dislocation of the the knee de facto. That's the difference. Yes he could make a full recovery and play next year. Or he could neve be the same.
I'm being specific to Chubb's case.
He doesn't have the critical damage that SOMETIMES is there with far worse posterior injuries. He may have SOME damage to other tissue, but it's very unlikely complete tears.
I well recall the total destruction of William Andrews' knee, but this is comparatively minor. In fact many PCL tears are less problematic than complete ACL tears.
What You seem to discount is what's coming from our AD and Nick's doctors. They are not BSing Chubb and his family. If this was as bad as You seem to think, We'd all be hearing a higher level of concern coming from inside the program.
