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Actually GM spanks Ford pretty good in trucks. GMC/Silverado are twins with different grills and fenders basically. Total the both of them and it is a GM win easy. Then add the hot selling Colorado and Canyon and Ford is swamped.Probably the Sierra. I've always been more of a GMC/Chevy guy. Most folks are Ford when it comes to trucks, considering they're the best selling. They're both interchangeable as far as I'm concerned and both are good trucks.
All due respect but that is complete azz hoseshit. I drive an F150 company vehicle and it is fine. But the longest lasting, most reliable engine proven by recent statistics is a 5.3 L GM engine which is staple in all GM full size trucks and SUV's. LOL! I ran the largest privately owned automotive chain in America for over 30 years. We had Ford, import and Chevy franchises. The local dealership where I got my company vehicles was a Chevy so they replaced my Silverado pickup every 20K miles and I put a ton of miles on Company rrucks, I drove over 200 Silverado trucks and my wife got a new Tahoe or Suburban every two years so she drove probably 25 and put 30 K a year on them. I NEVER put a Silverado in the shop for anything. I had one with squeaking brakes once upon a time but the mechanic told me you have been driving on a dirt road and it was true, dust on the brakes and it stopped in a couple days. My wife's Suburban dropped a tranny once. Close to 300 full size Chevys and one freaking tranny and ZERO SILVERADO's EVER in the shop! NONE! When I retired my wife was given a new Tahoe, it currently has close to 300K miles and we have replaced an alternator and a water pump and it runs like new! The 5.3 L is the same small block Chevy with tons of upgrades over the years that set the standard for American V8 engines. First a 265, then 283, then 327 and 350 and it is as bullet proof as mechanical equipment gets. I ain't in love with any brand of vehicle but the small block Chevy is God's gift to motoring mister! I know, I'm in the business and anyone who says different is nuts. The Ford small block (289/302) was a gem too. Both wound up so tight they used some oil years and years ago but that was never a problem and that was corrected close to 40 years ago. I don't get emotional over a damn vehicle but statistics prove over and over again that small block Chevys are the complete GOAT as far as being durable. It is no big deal in the business for Chevy trucks and Tahoes to have original engines with excess of 400 and yes 500K miles traded in at dealerships. I like certain things about the f150 better but longest lasting engines, it's 5'3 L all day long. Long live the small block Chevy!Here my problem with GM and why I want a Ford :
I had problems with with a oil cylinder that almost ruin the motor just over 100,000 miles . When I notice the problem my motor would shake and cab would shake . I could be in line and waiting at the drive thru and would really notice it . Even in park . They replace the cylinder and said it was warranty for a year or 12,000 miles .
The service manger pretty much told me pretty soon I would have to make an expensive choice new motor or new truck .
I did research and pretty much all GM motors have this problem . Some at 50,000 some at 127,000 .
I have had three patrol vehicles GM and Ford and charger . I have a F 150 and even the basics one is nice but if I want more option it will cost more . On the flip side GM option are standard.
I like the Ford because I have 50,000 miles and no problems . I drive it hard . I'm over 1000,000 in my POV and would like to get 20,000 more miles to 40,000.
But all the recalls also has me leaning .
Not according to the experts...Actually GM spanks Ford pretty good in trucks. GMC/Silverado are twins with different grills and fenders basically. Total the both of them and it is a GM win easy. Then add the hot selling Colorado and Canyon and Ford is swamped.
Ford has more technology choices (at a price) and more engine choices at the six cylinder level. Aluminum body adds to the load carrying ability but is expensive and still tricky to work on and replace. GM has the new updated 5.3 standard 8 at less than the turbo 3.5 and the 3.5 is noisy as hell. And right now stamped steel costs less so that is a win for GM.
So you are RedJim? We agree that Chevy is the best. I wondered where you went. High tailed it.All due respect but that is complete azz hoseshit. I drive an F150 company vehicle and it is fine. But the longest lasting, most reliable engine proven by recent statistics is a 5.3 L GM engine which is staple in all GM full size trucks and SUV's. LOL! I ran the largest privately owned automotive chain in America for over 30 years. We had Ford, import and Chevy franchises. The local dealership where I got my company vehicles was a Chevy so they replaced my Silverado pickup every 20K miles and I put a ton of miles on Company rrucks, I drove over 200 Silverado trucks and my wife got a new Tahoe or Suburban every two years so she drove probably 25 and put 30 K a year on them. I NEVER put a Silverado in the shop for anything. I had one with squeaking brakes once upon a time but the mechanic told me you have been driving on a dirt road and it was true, dust on the brakes and it stopped in a couple days. My wife's Suburban dropped a tranny once. Close to 300 full size Chevys and one freaking tranny and ZERO SILVERADO's EVER in the shop! NONE! When I retired my wife was given a new Tahoe, it currently has close to 300K miles and we have replaced an alternator and a water pump and it runs like new! The 5.3 L is the same small block Chevy with tons of upgrades over the years that set the standard for American V8 engines. First a 265, then 283, then 327 and 350 and it is as bullet proof as mechanical equipment gets. I ain't in love with any brand of vehicle but the small block Chevy is God's gift to motoring mister! I know, I'm in the business and anyone who says different is nuts. The Ford small block (289/302) was a gem too. Both wound up so tight they used some oil years and years ago but that was never a problem and that was corrected close to 40 years ago. I don't get emotional over a damn vehicle but statistics prove over and over again that small block Chevys are the complete GOAT as far as being durable. It is no big deal in the business for Chevy trucks and Tahoes to have original engines with excess of 400 and yes 500K miles traded in at dealerships. I like certain things about the f150 better but longest lasting engines, it's 5'3 L all day long. Long live the small block Chevy!
What was the oil cylinder doing? You talking of oil pump? Never heard of this. I bet you don't have much mechanical ability.Here my problem with GM and why I want a Ford :
I had problems with with a oil cylinder that almost ruin the motor just over 100,000 miles . When I notice the problem my motor would shake and cab would shake . I could be in line and waiting at the drive thru and would really notice it . Even in park . They replace the cylinder and said it was warranty for a year or 12,000 miles .
The service manger pretty much told me pretty soon I would have to make an expensive choice new motor or new truck .
I did research and pretty much all GM motors have this problem . Some at 50,000 some at 127,000 .
I have had three patrol vehicles GM and Ford and charger . I have a F 150 and even the basics one is nice but if I want more option it will cost more . On the flip side GM option are standard.
I like the Ford because I have 50,000 miles and no problems . I drive it hard . I'm over 1000,000 in my POV and would like to get 20,000 more miles to 40,000.
But all the recalls also has me leaning .
I've been truck shopping for a few weeks now. Lots of test drives, option checking, pricing. etc. If you're going with a 2016 I'm pretty much convinced at this point to go with a Ram. Their 2016 is some kind of nice truck.
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I have had f-150's all my life and currently have a Platinum as well. I love it. Before I bought this I decided to save a little money and purchased a Dodge Ram. You can tell a major difference in quality from the seats to the interior. Everything in the Ram just felt cheap and like It could break if I turned the knob too hard of pressed the button too hard. Id go either Ford or GMS but Id def forget about the Ram! Youll regret it... I did!
Motor Trend named the new Colorado Truck of the year when it first came out. Truck Trend did as well. And then named it again this year. Twice in a row. Even though the new mid size Toyota just came out. Both named the Ram Truck of the year for two years in a row including the year the new 2015 came out. So this is all very open to interpretation. The Silverado was named truck of the year by several publications in 2014. Some times I think they return favors...in exchange for ad dollars. I REPEAT, I AM IN THE BUSINESS! I think some here get their politics crossed up with acumen. LOL! There are good and bad in all the trucks. Consumer reports gave the Silverado high, high, high ratings for low customer complaints, gave the F150 average ratings and completely panned the Ram, this was over a 3 year period. I don't think many people even pay attention. In the real world, I never put a full size Chevy pickup in the shop having driven over 200 of them. I once upon a time had an F150 with the famous motorcycle co package since I was in Houston when I picked up a new co truck. It mysteriously WOULD NOT FIRE and CRANK at the worst times and I turned it back after 2k miles. Yet we, as I recall sold the hell out of F150 pickups that year. Since I retired I have bought a new truck every year, 3 of them Rams. One was as good as any truck I've ever owned, truly a sweet machine. A black hemi. One was a Daytona blue hemi that everything in the world quit in the first 1500 miles, wipers, headlites, and the tranny fluid just erupted on my driveway. The third was a beauty and shined like a diamond in a goat's azz but just did not have that solid as a rock feel like the 2014 Silverado I turned it in for. FWIW, I like the new F150. It has some true high tech marvels and the gas mileage is great. Pricey and the turbo engines are noisy but they are great. And a couple of the major mags named the full size F150 Truck of the year as it deserves with the step out to aluminum and the tech stuff.Not according to the experts...
http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...ng-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-6
Will NEVER buy a "Government Motors" automobile. Obama took GM from the owners and gave it to the unions.Pick now
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