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Heard it a bunch on this board.... Just what is Neo-confederate?

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For those that use the term, what is your definition?

Just trying to work through the maturity level of this board.
 
The same as a Neo-Stalinist or Neo-Maoist or Neo-Nazi. It just implies a dark foreboding presence
and makes use of language to label a person for his loosely held ideas as an entirely evil mindset.
It's like a closet way of saying Nazi or Racist. It sounds sinister any time you throw Neo in front
of someone you oppose. Try it! Neo-Richtite ( for those who still support Richt) Neo-Dentite (for
those who still indulge in dental hygeine). Just listen to the sound of those two words! Almost
sound anti-Semitic don't they! How fun it must be to cause shame with a simple twist of a word.
This is Alinsky at his best. It'd divisive at least, destructive at worst.
 
The same as a Neo-Stalinist or Neo-Maoist or Neo-Nazi. It just implies a dark foreboding presence
and makes use of language to label a person for his loosely held ideas as an entirely evil mindset.
It's like a closet way of saying Nazi or Racist. It sounds sinister any time you throw Neo in front
of someone you oppose. Try it! Neo-Richtite ( for those who still support Richt) Neo-Dentite (for
those who still indulge in dental hygeine). Just listen to the sound of those two words! Almost
sound anti-Semitic don't they! How fun it must be to cause shame with a simple twist of a word.
This is Alinsky at his best. It'd divisive at least, destructive at worst.
You forgot teh neo-cons!!!1!
 
Let's see if you can get "Drooley" to stick like "Helen". Good luck sweetness.
 
Why do you insist on projecting your need of acceptance onto others Drooley ? I'm a force of one, it's good to be me.
Let's be honest. I don't give a shit but I like to watch your attempts to rationalize things. You're so far off your game at this point I doubt you'll find your way back.
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center sums up the central themes of neo-confederate ideology very well:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform.../neo-confederate/the-neo-confederate-movement
First two n paragraphs fit me pretty well. Much like a description of a progressive liberal, many will fit part of the definition. The extremists use a banner for their own good and ideologies.

My question wasn't actually about what that group defined it as, but what our posters think it is. It is used so freely.

So since someone who thinks like me has been basically trapped in a corner and labeled. Does this mean that my views on life, moral behavior, truth, ethical norms, religious beliefs and expectations are now totally ignored?

Kinda tough being me.
 
First two n paragraphs fit me pretty well. Much like a description of a progressive liberal, many will fit part of the definition. The extremists use a banner for their own good and ideologies.

My question wasn't actually about what that group defined it as, but what our posters think it is. It is used so freely.

So since someone who thinks like me has been basically trapped in a corner and labeled. Does this mean that my views on life, moral behavior, truth, ethical norms, religious beliefs and expectations are now totally ignored?

Kinda tough being me.
Well you can always fly your confederate flag from your house
 
I think at the end of the day this board has been wired into a "special education" adult classroom.

A class catering to sort of a Neo-Idiot who is getting paid to pretend he is ever going to learn anything constructive so as to get off welfare/unemployment/underemployment and help himself. This Neo-Idiot is fighting demons only their tormented souls can see. And among them the enemy is anything from the conservative side or the folks who have jobs and go to them and families they are proud of and raising. Past that I've got nothing that defines what the hell they are about. A surprising number of 25-39 folks who should be productive but just can't handle life. Drugs maybe?
 
I think at the end of the day this board has been wired into a "special education" adult classroom.

A class catering to sort of a Neo-Idiot who is getting paid to pretend he is ever going to learn anything constructive so as to get off welfare/unemployment/underemployment and help himself. This Neo-Idiot is fighting demons only their tormented souls can see. And among them the enemy is anything from the conservative side or the folks who have jobs and go to them and families they are proud of and raising. Past that I've got nothing that defines what the hell they are about. A surprising number of 25-39 folks who should be productive but just can't handle life. Drugs maybe?
Thank goodness you're here to tell us how stupid we all are .... What would we do without you to inform us of that....I'm fixin to go buy a helmet now
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center is the center of plenty of it's OWN controversies.
I'd be careful buying all of it's labels. As a so-called educator you may want to look into them, Whitepug.
The FBI says their data is corrupted for purposes of scaring liberals into donating large sums of money
and writing it's OWN data regardless of national trends and data.

Using them labels you more than these Neos you are exposing as racists.

SPLC has come under severe criticism from the left and the right in recent years.

Writing in the left-wing website Counterpunch, Alexander Coburn called SPLC founder Morris Dees “king of the hate business.” Coburn wrote, “Ever since 1971, U.S. Postal Service mailbags have bulged with Dees’ fundraising letters, scaring dollars out of the pockets of trembling liberals aghast at his lurid depictions of hate-sodden America, in dire need of legal confrontation by the SPLC.” In fact, so prolific is Dees at direct mail that he is in the Direct Marketing Association Hall of Fame.

Writing at the Harper’s Magazine blog in 2007, Ken Silverstein said, “What [the SPLC] does best… is to raise obscene amounts of money by hyping fears about the power of [right-wing fringe] groups; hence the SPLC has become the nation’s richest ‘civil rights’ organization.”

A critical analysis published recently by Professor George Yancey of North Texas University concluded that SPLC targets only those groups its leaders disagree with politically while leaving liberal groups who use extreme language alone.

A 2013 article in Foreign Policy concluded that SPLC exaggerates the hate crimes threat, saying SPLC is not an “objective purveyor of data,” instead calling them “anti-hate activists” and suggesting that their reports need to be “weighed more carefully by news outlets that cover their pronouncements.”
 
And again.....Moral Panic from the media for the purposes of political power and greed.
The SPLC has about as much relevance as the NAACP and the Black Panthers and the KKK
and the Aryan Nations.
 
The Southern Poverty Law Center is the center of plenty of it's OWN controversies.
I'd be careful buying all of it's labels. As a so-called educator you may want to look into them, Whitepug.
The FBI says their data is corrupted for purposes of scaring liberals into donating large sums of money
and writing it's OWN data regardless of national trends and data.

Using them labels you more than these Neos you are exposing as racists.

SPLC has come under severe criticism from the left and the right in recent years.

Writing in the left-wing website Counterpunch, Alexander Coburn called SPLC founder Morris Dees “king of the hate business.” Coburn wrote, “Ever since 1971, U.S. Postal Service mailbags have bulged with Dees’ fundraising letters, scaring dollars out of the pockets of trembling liberals aghast at his lurid depictions of hate-sodden America, in dire need of legal confrontation by the SPLC.” In fact, so prolific is Dees at direct mail that he is in the Direct Marketing Association Hall of Fame.

Writing at the Harper’s Magazine blog in 2007, Ken Silverstein said, “What [the SPLC] does best… is to raise obscene amounts of money by hyping fears about the power of [right-wing fringe] groups; hence the SPLC has become the nation’s richest ‘civil rights’ organization.”

A critical analysis published recently by Professor George Yancey of North Texas University concluded that SPLC targets only those groups its leaders disagree with politically while leaving liberal groups who use extreme language alone.

A 2013 article in Foreign Policy concluded that SPLC exaggerates the hate crimes threat, saying SPLC is not an “objective purveyor of data,” instead calling them “anti-hate activists” and suggesting that their reports need to be “weighed more carefully by news outlets that cover their pronouncements.”
doesn't surprise me at all .... always thought Dees was a slimebag attorney
 
I've been on their mailing list for several years. They are very good at soliciting donations. Soliciting funds seems to be their stock and trade these days, though, their founder did have his name associated with representing "truth and justice" for a few civil rights proponents a few decades back.
 
Well you can always fly your confederate flag from your house
I don't fly one for what its worth. What flag do you fly? My questions and points are to understand why the flag hurts anyone in today's year and time.

Most of our young people have no working knowledge of our history at all, especially the facts. So their opinion on the flag is manufactured by those who wish to control and manipulate power politically.
 
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I don't fly one for what its worth. What flag do you fly? My questions and points are to understand why the flag hurts anyone in today's year and time.

Most of our young people have no working knowledge of our history at all, especially the facts. So their opinion on the flag is manufactured by those who wish to control and manipulate power politically.
Yeah except it's not simply made up or manufactured....it's a clear symbol of the enslavement of a large % of our population. The men who fought to keep them enslaved flew it and their evil descendants cherish it. That's bad and does moral damage to us all
 
Yeah except it's not simply made up or manufactured....it's a clear symbol of the enslavement of a large % of our population. The men who fought to keep them enslaved flew it and their evil descendants cherish it. That's bad and does moral damage to us all
You and your "moral damage". It would be interesting to see how you'd survive having to stare at one for a few hours. Would "M" survive? Oh the horror. You revisionists are a real piece of work. Perhaps you will choke to death on your kale salad tonight so you won't have to contemplate these travesties.
 
Yeah except it's not simply made up or manufactured....it's a clear symbol of the enslavement of a large % of our population. The men who fought to keep them enslaved flew it and their evil descendants cherish it. That's bad and does moral damage to us all

But that is the rub. While the political climate was to protect slavery as a way to maintain the southern economy, hundreds of thousands of men and boys died in a war with the sole purpose of enslaving another race? Are you that naive?

Also, it was the battle flag of states seceding from the union. The soldiers and their generals fought with honor for the secession movement. Honor seems lost on most now. It wasn't a flag that rallied the southern armies to "enslave a race".

So their descendants are evil? So what you are saying is that all Africans are evil. They started the whole slave trade issue. African Americans are dependent so of those who captured and sold slaves. And it is still alive and well today. Evil?

Are the descendants of the black Angolan who purchased the first slaves on our soil all evil?

You simplify a very complex situation, ignoring much.

White and black descendants of slave owners are not evil. Most have been involved in creating an educational system for all people and working on laws that level the playing field for all.

Not all take advantage of that then look to lay blame for their lot in life when they don't participate.
 
But that is the rub. While the political climate was to protect slavery as a way to maintain the southern economy, hundreds of thousands of men and boys died in a war with the sole purpose of enslaving another race? Are you that naive?

Also, it was the battle flag of states seceding from the union. The soldiers and their generals fought with honor for the secession movement. Honor seems lost on most now. It wasn't a flag that rallied the southern armies to "enslave a race".

So their descendants are evil? So what you are saying is that all Africans are evil. They started the whole slave trade issue. African Americans are dependent so of those who captured and sold slaves. And it is still alive and well today. Evil?

Are the descendants of the black Angolan who purchased the first slaves on our soil all evil?

You simplify a very complex situation, ignoring much.

White and black descendants of slave owners are not evil. Most have been involved in creating an educational system for all people and working on laws that level the playing field for all.

Not all take advantage of that then look to lay blame for their lot in life when they don't participate.

There is no honor in treason. Every confederate was a traitor to the United States, as defined by the US Constitution in Article III, Section 3. The confederate government and military constantly referred to the United States as an enemy. Why should Americans honor people who killed American soldiers?
 
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