Here's the problem with voting for guys like Cheney and bush.

[CountryClubDawg]

So you're the guy still defending this war? Smh. Okay enjoy that position. You stated "saddam was making his neighbors nervous". Then let his neighbors handle him. Iran certainly could have. The Saudis with our peripheral support could have but chicken littles always want the U.S. To go to war. It's what little men like bush and Cheney do. Over and over. Unfortunately we will do it again because of people who think like you. But I'm sure you or your boy won't be spending time in those wars like my family has. It's always someone else's fault. let me guess, Nixon wasn't a crook either? Have a good day.

It may not be politically correct, but I'll defend the war all day. Knowing what we know about the atrocities carried out by the Dictator Saddam and his henchmen- 300,000 innocent men, women, and children killed. Many with their hands tied behind their back and bullet holes in their heads. I'm not defending Bush/Cheney, but those innocent men, women, and children deserved justice, and justice was served. In my opinion, it was justified.

Sandy Hodgkinson said the administration has been sending forensic teams to investigate those grave sites reported to U.S. officials. So far, the existence of about 40 graves has been confirmed."We have found mass graves with women and children with bullet holes in their heads," she said.
hat tip: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-11-08-iraq-mass-graves_x.htm

For you to continue to blame Bush/Cheney, after all the proof above that debunks that theory, makes you look like the ideological fool you are. You never once mention the UN, Clinton, or Congress. Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Blah, blah, blah! kool-aid drinker.

Last point and I'm done with this topic: more often then not, when a liberal invokes the sanctity of soldier's lives it is to push an agenda. If that weren't the case you'd see more of an outrage from the main stream media and liberals in regards to the VA .
http://www.military.com/daily-news/...terans-died-while-waiting-health-care-va.html
More than 300,000 American military veterans likely died while waiting for health care -- and nearly twice as many are still waiting -- according to a new Department of Veterans Affairs inspector general report.

 

[PotimusWillie]

You did. Read your post above "the closest thing to the biblical predecessor to the anti-Christ". Are you drunk like rolo again? Oh sorry, your semantics of that you didn't call him the antichrist, you called him the "biblical predecessor to the Anti-Christ". Listen to yourself. Please. Go back and reread your post in this thread. You called him "the closest thing to the biblical predecessor to the anti-Christ". Good grief man, I'm Just quoting you.....


Edit: I did some research as "biblical predecessor to the anti Christ" seemed an interesting phrase and I was sure you had not come up with it. Is this where you pull this kind of talk from? See link

http://www.endtime.com/endtime-magazine-articles/antichrist-spotlight/

Wow guy, you are about as contrary as a man can be. You either are so narcissistic or don't really understand what you are arguing against. If you gain your knowledge of topics from Internet blogs that back your beliefs, you belief is based on what some other man wants you to digest.

I stated predecessor because the Bible speaks of those who will prepare the way for the anti-christ. I do believe our president is one of those predecessors as he continues to invoke and promote law that conflicts with God.

So go back and read again what I posted and what you posted. I NEVER once stated the president was the anti-christ. But you say I did.

Admit you are wrong so we can continue our friendship.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Wow guy, you are about as contrary as a man can be. You either are so narcissistic or don't really understand what you are arguing against. If you gain your knowledge of topics from Internet blogs that back your beliefs, you belief is based on what some other man wants you to digest.

I stated predecessor because the Bible speaks of those who will prepare the way for the anti-christ. I do believe our president is one of those predecessors as he continues to invoke and promote law that conflicts with God.

So go back and read again what I posted and what you posted. I NEVER once stated the president was the anti-christ. But you say I did.

Admit you are wrong so we can continue our friendship.

C'mon man. Rioneck is the self proclaimed smartest guy in the room. LOL. In reality he's probably some horn rimmed glasses white belt and shoe wearing weasel who's been made fun of his whole life....probably just needs to get laid and develop some confidence....but that pitted face and head pimples probably make that next to impossible

 

[Riotch]

Wow guy, you are about as contrary as a man can be. You either are so narcissistic or don't really understand what you are arguing against. If you gain your knowledge of topics from Internet blogs that back your beliefs, you belief is based on what some other man wants you to digest.

I stated predecessor because the Bible speaks of those who will prepare the way for the anti-christ. I do believe our president is one of those predecessors as he continues to invoke and promote law that conflicts with God.

So go back and read again what I posted and what you posted. I NEVER once stated the president was the anti-christ. But you say I did.

Admit you are wrong so we can continue our friendship.

I admit that I was wrong that you did not call him the anti-Christ. I apologize for offending you.

You admit you believe he is a biblical predecessor to the anti-Christ.

For those of us who essentially never talk about the anti-Christ (because we don't believe in it or have really more things to think about-which clearly you believe in and give this some serious thought) we really don't ever mention it or their predecessors. The reason being is when you do this you associate a person with the anti-Christ which is calling them part of the anti-Christ team/antichrist preparers which I think in fact you are doing. I'm not a fan of Obama, but I am much less a fan of people calling or associating people with the antichrist, just because they don't agree with obamas policies (I'm sure you know many, many, many other leaders have been called the antichrist/ predecessor to the antifhrist before for hundreds of years). You are honestly the first person in many years I have interacted with who said anything about the antichrist or his "biblical predecessor." So I think it's just best we leave it at that as I have zero interest in talking about theories on the antichrist, the antichrist team, the antichrist predecessors, or the antichrist transformers or the weather in antichristville. hsve a good day sir.

 

[whitepug6]

I think Obama is an a**hole, liar and the closest thing the U.S. has seen to a Biblical predecessor to the Anti-Christ that I have ever witnessed in my 57 years.

This guy thought Obama was the Antichrist, too! Well, you know what they say about great minds thinking alike...http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-wh...dez-was-obsessed-with-president-barack-obama/

Obama is in good company, though. Lunatics throughout history have accused Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=CvoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4017,4171113&hl=en
and Pope John Paul II of being the Antichrist.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

I admit that I was wrong that you did not call him the anti-Christ. I apologize for offending you.

You admit you believe he is a biblical predecessor to the anti-Christ.

For those of us who essentially never talk about the anti-Christ (because we don't believe in it or have really more things to think about-which clearly you believe in and give this some serious thought) we really don't ever mention it or their predecessors. The reason being is when you do this you associate a person with the anti-Christ which is calling them part of the anti-Christ team/antichrist preparers which I think in fact you are doing. I'm not a fan of Obama, but I am much less a fan of people calling or associating people with the antichrist, just because they don't agree with obamas policies (I'm sure you know many, many, many other leaders have been called the antichrist/ predecessor to the antifhrist before for hundreds of years). You are honestly the first person in many years I have interacted with who said anything about the antichrist or his "biblical predecessor." So I think it's just best we leave it at that as I have zero interest in talking about theories on the antichrist, the antichrist team, the antichrist predecessors, or the antichrist transformers or the weather in antichristville. hsve a good day sir.

Stick your head in the sand and ignore the events leading to the end times. It will not slow or stop the terrible things this nation is going to suffer. We have been taken off of God's protected nations with our lack of support to our previous allies in Israel! If you were trying to weaken or destroy the United States, there is not much you would do differently than Obama has done to us in the last 7 years.

 

[whitepug6]

Stick your head in the sand and ignore the events leading to the end times. It will not slow or stop the terrible things this nation is going to suffer. We have been taken off of God's protected nations with our lack of support to our previous allies in Israel! If you were trying to weaken or destroy the United States, there is not much you would do differently than Obama has done to us in the last 7 years.

Fear makes people stupid. This is stupid thinking.

 

[PotimusWillie]

I admit that I was wrong that you did not call him the anti-Christ. I apologize for offending you.

You admit you believe he is a biblical predecessor to the anti-Christ.

For those of us who essentially never talk about the anti-Christ (because we don't believe in it or have really more things to think about-which clearly you believe in and give this some serious thought) we really don't ever mention it or their predecessors. The reason being is when you do this you associate a person with the anti-Christ which is calling them part of the anti-Christ team/antichrist preparers which I think in fact you are doing. I'm not a fan of Obama, but I am much less a fan of people calling or associating people with the antichrist, just because they don't agree with obamas policies (I'm sure you know many, many, many other leaders have been called the antichrist/ predecessor to the antifhrist before for hundreds of years). You are honestly the first person in many years I have interacted with who said anything about the antichrist or his "biblical predecessor." So I think it's just best we leave it at that as I have zero interest in talking about theories on the antichrist, the antichrist team, the antichrist predecessors, or the antichrist transformers or the weather in antichristville. hsve a good day sir.

At least we are back to being friends now. We can agree to disagree on what each other believe?

I will sleep better now

Remember that our differences make us stronger. Division is unity. Divided we stand, united we fall.

See, I too can follow liberal logic. There is hope for me afterall!

God has Blessed you greatly Riotch.

 

[PotimusWillie]

Fear makes people stupid. This is stupid thinking.

I agree. And that is what has made president Obama sa frustrating. He has done more to divide the races than any sitting President in my lifetime.

He has created such a dependency model of government, that it will be hard to survive as a democratic republic as we move forward through the years.

Pretty dangerous country we live in now, unless a big screen TV or cell phone is our barometer.

Just saying.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

Fear makes people stupid. This is stupid thinking.

I only fear the fall of our nation as a sad day, but otherwise I fear nothing because I am prepared for the rapture.
I think it is very smart to be prepared, not dependence upon our government that can not even follow it's own laws.
That is very stupid to put your life in the hands of these leaders and thieves.

 

[HeulenHund2]

No doubt Cheney, who was the real catalyst, was and remains a damn fool, and a dishonest one at that.
I can't give The Obama administration a pass though. Even with recent history as a guide, they supported the 2008 ''Arab Spring'' and continued with the notion Syria could be turned into what they ''imagined'' it could be.
There is a group of Israeli centered people deeply embedded in The State Dept, Defense Dept, Executive Branch and think tanks that has had a big hand in shaping the last 13 years of history in The Mid-East. I'm all for Israel securing their borders, but We've been damn fools to serve their interest over our own.

 

[Riotch]

No doubt Cheney, who was the real catalyst, was and remains a damn fool, and a dishonest one at that.
I can't give The Obama administration a pass though. Even with recent history as a guide, they supported the 2008 ''Arab Spring'' and continued with the notion Syria could be turned into what they ''imagined'' it could be.
There is a group of Israeli centered people deeply embedded in The State Dept, Defense Dept, Executive Branch and think tanks that has had a big hand in shaping the last 13 years of history in The Mid-East. I'm all for Israel securing their borders, but We've been damn fools to serve their interest over our own.

Never defended Obama except to say we ought to be out of that region militarily. Notice that no other Arab country took one sirian refugee? Force them to deal with their problems. We stay out. Did you read the book gun and the olive branch? Good start on the history if isreal and the region

 

[HeulenHund2]

Never defended Obama except to say we ought to be out of that region militarily. Notice that no other Arab country took one sirian refugee? Force them to deal with their problems. We stay out. Did you read the book gun and the olive branch? Good start on the history if isreal and the region

I think it was you who recommended Gun And The Olive branch to me awhile back. I've only touched on some notes on it from people whose opinions I respect. It seems very worthwhile. I'll get back to it at some point. I do wish We'd truly act as ''honest brokers'' or just get the hell out of the politics of the region.