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is reason Russians are now there. I suspect Russia will have an immediate and game changing result in that they will go in to win rather than having lawyers back in Moscow running the show.

The end result is likely they will have their way and next Hezbollah and Iran will turn them on Israel. Not directly unless Israel tries defend herself from Syria and or Iran by airstrikes. They have blown several missle systems shipments from Russia to Syria up but that is no more as sophisticated Russian systems are being delivered. The option for Israel to defend themselves against Iran by blowing their nuclear threat up is also now off the table. So the bottom line is weakness by America has brought the Russians into the game and limited the options.
 
is reason Russians are now there. I suspect Russia will have an immediate and game changing result in that they will go in to win rather than having lawyers back in Moscow running the show.

The end result is likely they will have their way and next Hezbollah and Iran will turn them on Israel. Not directly unless Israel tries defend herself from Syria and or Iran by airstrikes. They have blown several missle systems shipments from Russia to Syria up but that is no more as sophisticated Russian systems are being delivered. The option for Israel to defend themselves against Iran by blowing their nuclear threat up is also now off the table. So the bottom line is weakness by America has brought the Russians into the game and limited the options.

Took a screen shot of this and we will see if any of your preductions are true In a year and five years. I say Russian interaction in syria does nothing and Isis is actually internationally more powerful in a year and five years. They may actually start blowing up stuff in Moscow now. Could get interesting but Russia's interactions in Syria will change nothing unless that chicken little shoots a nato plane out of the air. That would be catastrophic for Russia. Think they are broke now with sanctions? Imagine if their SAMs knock out a nato plane. Their economy might be so bad then they'd join the other third worlders Isis. Lol
 
is reason Russians are now there. I suspect Russia will have an immediate and game changing result in that they will go in to win rather than having lawyers back in Moscow running the show.

The end result is likely they will have their way and next Hezbollah and Iran will turn them on Israel. Not directly unless Israel tries defend herself from Syria and or Iran by airstrikes. They have blown several missle systems shipments from Russia to Syria up but that is no more as sophisticated Russian systems are being delivered. The option for Israel to defend themselves against Iran by blowing their nuclear threat up is also now off the table. So the bottom line is weakness by America has brought the Russians into the game and limited the options.

We've been hitting ISIS for over a year, and with more weaponry than Russia has in Syria.
I think Putin really feels they need to coordinate this with U.S. forces. People can be so paranoid they miss the obvious. Russia can afford a protracted campaign far less than We can. They also have Chechnya and Afganistan as templates for failure.
 
We've been hitting ISIS for over a year, and with more weaponry than Russia has in Syria.
I think Putin really feels they need to coordinate this with U.S. forces. People can be so paranoid they miss the obvious. Russia can afford a protracted campaign far less than We can. They also have Chechnya and Afganistan as templates for failure.

Russia got chased out of Afganistan, Putin had a large role in that war.
Russia lost 7000 soldiers in the 1st Chechen war, and gained nothing. They lost between 8 and 40 thousand soldiers in the 2nd Chechen War plus they've had MANY terrorist attacks in their homeland. Some of you are too impressed with bluster.
 
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Russia got chased out of Afganistan, Putin had a large role in that war.
Russia lost 7000 soldiers in the 1st Chechen war, and gained nothing. They lost between 8 and 40 thousand soldiers in the 2nd Chechen War plus they've had MANY terrorist attacks in their homeland. Some of you are too impressed with bluster.

The right wing lunatic fringe propaganda machine is fear-mongering this issue. I keep trying to explain this rationally---Syria is Russia's ONLY Arab ally in the Middle East. Russia is putting troops and weaponry in Syria for 2 reasons: to protect the Assad regime from internal/external insurgency, and to ensure Russia maintains its naval base in Syria.


Russia will NOT team up with Syria to attack Israel.

This may sound odd to some right wingers, but Russia and Israel have excellent political relations with one another.

FACT: Russian is the third most widely spoken language in Israel. (Hebrew and Arabic are one and two, respectively)

FACT: Hundreds of thousands of Russian-Israeli citizens live in Israel. During Russian elections, the Russian government sets up polling stations across many Israeli cities as well as smaller towns, in order to enable the Russian citizens who are living in Israel to cast their vote. (Could you see that happening in the US? Rush Limbaugh's head would explode)

FACT: Russia buys military equipment from Israel.
 
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The right wing lunatic fringe propaganda machine is fear-mongering this issue. I keep trying to explain this rationally---Syria is Russia's ONLY Arab ally in the Middle East. Russia is putting troops and weaponry in Syria for 2 reasons: to protect the Assad regime from internal/external insurgency, and to ensure Russia maintains its naval base in Syria.


Russia will NOT team up with Syria to attack Israel.

This may sound odd to some right wingers, but Russia and Israel have excellent political relations with one another.

FACT: Russian is the third most widely spoken language in Israel. (Hebrew and Arabic are one and two, respectively)

FACT: Hundreds of thousands of Russian-Israeli citizens live in Israel. During Russian elections, the Russian government sets up polling stations across many Israeli cities as well as smaller towns, in order to enable the Russian citizens who are living in Israel to cast their vote. (Could you see that happening in the US? Rush Limbaugh's head would explode)

FACT: Russia buys military equipment from Israel.
How cute! As the libs try and give the play by play on why Russia needs Ears to help win against Syria.
Face it under obama we are worse than inept! I do not take any pleasure in this, it disgust me to the core that Russia has to step in and fix our mess after obama drops the ball and calls them the jv team.
 
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The right wing lunatic fringe propaganda machine is fear-mongering this issue. I keep trying to explain this rationally---Syria is Russia's ONLY Arab ally in the Middle East. Russia is putting troops and weaponry in Syria for 2 reasons: to protect the Assad regime from internal/external insurgency, and to ensure Russia maintains its naval base in Syria.


Russia will NOT team up with Syria to attack Israel.

This may sound odd to some right wingers, but Russia and Israel have excellent political relations with one another.

FACT: Russian is the third most widely spoken language in Israel. (Hebrew and Arabic are one and two, respectively)

FACT: Hundreds of thousands of Russian-Israeli citizens live in Israel. During Russian elections, the Russian government sets up polling stations across many Israeli cities as well as smaller towns, in order to enable the Russian citizens who are living in Israel to cast their vote. (Could you see that happening in the US? Rush Limbaugh's head would explode)

FACT: Russia buys military equipment from Israel.
We of course shall see. Russia has about as sophisticated an armed force as we do. Difference is they will use it and ruthlessly. LOL @ you naive little socialist left wingers who feel some sort of kinship with Russia. Either you are incredibly ignorant of affairs in that part of the world or in denial. Have you not, for instance heard about Israel using airstrikes to prevent sophisticated Russian equipment from off loading and or blowing up such equipment after it was shipped in by the Russians. Israel is or was at war with Syria and Hezbollah you dummy! And your contention that Israel and Russia are some sort of chums is outrageous. Israel is on the front line spying for the USA on Russia. And whatever assets Syria has, Hezbollah has. Therefore the victory lap by Hezbollah.

I know, I know, you Obama apologists are desperate for someone, even our arch enemy to save him and even a 4th and 40 hail mary looks good about now. And hell maybe it will. Maybe Putin has had a change of heart and goes to the Orthodox church daily and prays for America. And the entire attempt to peel off eastern European states and denying them the desired NATO membership is just a big ole misunderstanding. Maybe the the Bear overflights are just sight seeing pilots who merely want to see America. And his attempts to box us in by establishing a Northern buffer is more misinformation. More likely however, he sees an opening to spread Russian influence and intimidate Israel (trust me he already has), strip the last little bit of influence we have in that region and show the world in general and the middle east in particular how a military super power conducts their business. Your clinging to the hope that a communist-radical Islamist (Russia and Iran through Syria) linkup can save the feeble, helpless left wing in America is pitiful. And that is what you are begging for. Interesting to see the groveling that you people are reduced too. But don't worry your little lefty heads off there are still enough of us right wing lunatics who will stand and defend America when it gets down to it. So you squirrels can still enjoy your Latte @ Starbucks. LOL again!

But I guess I shouldn't worry. After they set up shop in the middle east Obama will ban another five or six officials from visiting Disney World! That'll make 'em think twice.
 
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How cute! As the libs try and give the play by play on why Russia needs Ears to help win against Syria.
Face it under obama we are worse than inept! I do not take any pleasure in this, it disgust me to the core that Russia has to step in and fix our mess after obama drops the ball and calls them the jv team.

Clearly You take pleasure in YOUR assessment of president Obama's ineptness. Why else would it occupy your posting to obsession ?
No doubt The POTUS has made mistakes but he's been extremely aggressive against Terrorist on many fronts. This situation with ISIS has been a case where he truly has been slow to respond. Fact is Military and Intelligence services considered them B teamers till it became obvious their estimations were wrong. The big mistake was supporting questionable people in an effort to overthrow Syrian leadership. The same mistakes made in Iraq were repeated. THAT astounds me. Everybody I discussed ''The Arab Spring'' saw these flaws in real time. Why the powers involved thought it was a good idea to create more chaos is beyond me.
 
We of course shall see. Russia has about as sophisticated an armed force as we do. Difference is they will use it and ruthlessly. LOL @ you naive little socialist left wingers who feel some sort of kinship with Russia. Either you are incredibly ignorant of affairs in that part of the world or in denial. Have you not, for instance heard about Israel using airstrikes to prevent sophisticated Russian equipment from off loading and or blowing up such equipment after it was shipped in by the Russians. Israel is or was at war with Syria and Hezbollah you dummy! And your contention that Israel and Russia are some sort of chums is outrageous. Israel is on the front line spying for the USA on Russia. And whatever assets Syria has, Hezbollah has. Therefore the victory lap by Hezbollah.

I know, I know, you Obama apologists are desperate for someone, even our arch enemy to save him and even a 4th and 40 hail mary looks good about now. And hell maybe it will. Maybe Putin has had a change of heart and goes to the Orthodox church daily and prays for America. And the entire attempt to peel off eastern European states and denying them the desired NATO members hip is just a big ole misunderstanding. Maybe the the Bear overflights are just sight seeing pilots who just want to see America. More likely he sees an opening to spread Russian influence and intimidate Israel (trust me he already has), strip the last little bit of influence we have in that region and show the world in general and the middle east in particular how a military super power conducts their business. Your clinging to the hope that a communist-radical Islamist (Russia and Iran through Syria) linkup can save the feeble, helpless left wing in America is pitiful. And that is what you are begging for. Interesting to see the groveling that you people are reduced too. But don't worry your little lefty heads off there are still enough of us right wing lunatics who will stand and defend America when it gets down to it. So you squirrels can still enjoy your Latte @ Starbucks. LOL again!


Dude judging by all the different countries/people you are afraid of in this post I wouldn't want you defending your bottle of seroquel. Russia is ruthless, but a toothless tiger. They can't even overrun f'ing Ukraine. Let that set in for a minute. UKRAINE. What is wrong with you chicken little types? What the hell are you afraid of now and going to "defend" tomorrow. Quit watching fox. It makes you a scardy cat. Russia? That's who we should fear now? Russia. Okay. I thought it was North Korea, Isis, hezbolla, Hamas, boko haram, Iran, Syria? That who you said last week. Now Russia?? They still can't feed their own people. Man for a guy who talks tough ("stand and defend America") you certainly come off as...ahh, eh hem...not so tough. Oh and one more thought, your Russian bear planes are prop planes right? They can't do anything as they are incredibly slow compared to a missile. I might have partially listened to what you were saying if you mentioned subs. Thats how Russia would attack us, not some prop plane. Prop planes doing fly overs scare no one. They are just redirected. Or they get shot down. By a missle that goes about fifteen times faster than a prop plane.
 
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Dude judging by all the different countries/people you are afraid of in this post I wouldn't want you defending your bottle of seroquel. Russia is ruthless, but a toothless tiger. They can't even overrun f'ing Ukraine. Let that set in for a minute. UKRAINE. What is wrong with you chicken little types? What the hell are you afraid of now and going to "defend" tomorrow. Quit watching fox. It makes you a scardy cat. Russia? That's who we should fear now? Russia. Okay. I thought it was North Korea, Isis, hezbolla, Hamas, boko haram, Iran, Syria? That who you said last week. Now Russia?? They still can't feed their own people. Man for a guy who talks tough ("stand and defend America") you certainly come off as...ahh, eh hem...not so tough. Oh and one more thought, your Elaine Russian bear planes are prop planes right? They can't do anything as they are incredibly slow compared to a missile. I might have partially listened to what you were saying if you mentioned subs. That how Russia would attack us, not some prop plane. Prop planes doing fly overs scare no one. They are just redirected. Or they get shot down. By a missed that goes about fifteen times faster than a prop plane.
 
It's been my experience only little metrosexuals use "dude" in their conversations. Many are somewhat confused as to whether they want to fight or have someone use a cat of nine tails on their buttocks. I'll go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt and say you maybe got sold some bad meth @ the 7-11 and in between grinding your teeth and your nervous jerking you just forgot you are posting to grownups. A brat packer perhaps. BTW, I'm 70 and retired so there is no chance of the army coming back after me.

Aside from that you got me confused (another bad reaction I spose) since I give 2 shits about all these phantoms floating around in your imagination. Boko who? Is that a gang some of your friends or folks belongs too? Korea? Think I caught something that starts with a g and rhymes with Korea at Kimpo in the sixties. Did you read that harem name on the outhouse wall at a truck stop? Or was that some "dude" named Hamas looking for a pickup. Think i saw a running back with that name playing for Baylor today. Aside from that I'm too late in the fourth quarter to much care one way or another WTF goes down. Russia? Yeah I know about them. Biggest nuke arsenal on the planet earth. Population who despises the USA and the death march of everyone from Nap to Adolph. So yeah they are kind of a big deal. I used to jam their shit in the Aleutians.

But knock yourself out trying to be a smart azz. I've likely stepped over bigger wise azzes than you looking for a cuss fight. I just like to argue with you whistle britches. But you are right, there is no fight left in me. Although my old business partner had a damn good suggestion. Why send these young boys to the middle east, he says. Send us since we ain't got anything to lose and we would get a thrill out of it. I told him it made sense as long as I don't have to hump, I'm used to riding now. So I guess you are sorta on the right track since you figured out there was no real bad azz on this end of the line. I just like to make you boys run in circles and foam at the mouth.

Well, now you've met someone who isn't a metrosexual that says dude. Don't think my f350 nor all my guns fit in well with the metros though I can't say I've tried. I get all your cute jokes about gayness though. Seems I've found the ones that joke about gayness the most usually are closeted gays. Again, I have no experience in the gay area as I haven't tried that either, nor do I plan to. I do think though that they should have all the rights that me and my fiancée will have when we are married.

Boko haram is the North African wing of Isis. They provide an estimated 40 percent of the total dollars flowing to Isis by transmitting and dealing cocaine made in Brazil, Columbia and other Central American countries, then shipped to west Africa and transported by ground and across the Mediterranean to Europe. They are now the largest supplier of cocaine to Europe and al queda provides essentially all the hash and heroin to Europe. Amazing how these guys religion is bent when it comes to money, huh. Remember all those little girls that were taken in africa? Boko haram. The Christians killed in Sudan and Somalia? Boko haram. Aka North African Isis.

As far as Russia goes, after the fall of the ussr they really are a paper tiger. I know in your era (and mine growing up) they were a kinda big deal and are still mildly, ONLY because they have nukes. Now that North Korea, japan(by proxy from us), isreal (by proxy from us), India, Pakistan, China and the us has them the only nation I'm actually concerned about using nukes is Pakistan. Russia won't, IMO, make much of a fight in the Middle East/Syria. We have already done far more than I think Russia ever will in that region. They can't afford it, and like in Afghanistan, if they start having casualties their people will want out. The only kicker I see is if the Moslems start blowing up stuff in Russia. Then it could get interesting. Oddly, then they would be our real ally along with Iran (yep the main effective fighting force in Iraq against Isis is Iranian soldiers)against Isis.

On a sidebar, as I have aged I want less war. Maybe it's because of my family members who were servicemen and dealing with their overdoses, nightmares, and other psychological difficulties because they killed and killed in wars that may or may not have made us any safer (Afghanistan and Iraq most recently,)Those wars, when we walk away, will be seen as failures. I appreciate your service and as a serviceman, I have to believe that you don't want our families and kids to be killed or f'ed up in some foreign country fighting for a "side" that we don't even understand or feel like are part of our "side." Just mho but my family has sure suffered enough to be listened to when talking about war as its my family and friends that will be sent over there to do the killing. I guess I'm done "foaming at the mouth" as you say. Again, thank you for your service.
 
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Clearly You take pleasure in YOUR assessment of president Obama's ineptness. Why else would it occupy your posting to obsession ?
No doubt The POTUS has made mistakes but he's been extremely aggressive against Terrorist on many fronts. This situation with ISIS has been a case where he truly has been slow to respond. Fact is Military and Intelligence services considered them B teamers till it became obvious their estimations were wrong. The big mistake was supporting questionable people in an effort to overthrow Syrian leadership. The same mistakes made in Iraq were repeated. THAT astounds me. Everybody I discussed ''The Arab Spring'' saw these flaws in real time. Why the powers involved thought it was a good idea to create more chaos is beyond me.
I really , really love my country and I HATE to see us as weak as wee are. Believe me I take NO pleasure in the fact we have to depend upon our enemies to fix our lack of power, resolve, or fore site to deal with problems that affect not only us but the free world in general. I think obama is a complete joke and an idiot savant. He gives a great speech and can lie better than any politician I have ever witnessed. Those are not things to be proud of left wingers. Maybe we can start a hashtag "please stop being mean to us" program and they will stop it. That would be just bout as effective as what he has done thus far. Also when they give status updates on the progress on fighting isis, they should not falsify the data to make our situation look better. If you would quit defending this jack wagon we could do what we do best Fight for our FREEDOM against all enemies. I am not happy at all with this arrangement, so you can revise your thinking on that one.
 
I really , really love my country and I HATE to see us as weak as wee are. Believe me I take NO pleasure in the fact we have to depend upon our enemies to fix our lack of power, resolve, or fore site to deal with problems that affect not only us but the free world in general. I think obama is a complete joke and an idiot savant. He gives a great speech and can lie better than any politician I have ever witnessed. Those are not things to be proud of left wingers. Maybe we can start a hashtag "please stop being mean to us" program and they will stop it. That would be just bout as effective as what he has done thus far. Also when they give status updates on the progress on fighting isis, they should not falsify the data to make our situation look better. If you would quit defending this jack wagon we could do what we do best Fight for our FREEDOM against all enemies. I am not happy at all with this arrangement, so you can revise your thinking on that one.

Your hate for Our POTUS clouds your judgment, and it seems to make you ignore the fact We've been fighting constantly against radical Islamic forces under Obama while the mighty Russians have done nothing outside of their own borders. Obama has used special forces and drones MANY times over what Bush used them. He just hasn't committed us to yet another unwise invasion, and I thank him for that.
 
Your hate for Our POTUS clouds your judgment, and it seems to make you ignore the fact We've been fighting constantly against radical Islamic forces under Obama while the mighty Russians have done nothing outside of their own borders. Obama has used special forces and drones MANY times over what Bush used them. He just hasn't committed us to yet another unwise invasion, and I thank him for that.
The drones are an easy way to look successful without doing what is really necessary to win a fight such as this.
He will not commit to winning. You have all the facts, but will not see the truth. I am done trying to debate with one who refuses to
admit to the truth. obama is not doing what it takes to protect this nation. PERIOD
 
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The drones are an easy way to look successful without doing what is really necessary to win a fight such as this.
He will not commit to winning. You have all the facts, but will not see the truth. I am done trying to debate with one who refuses to
admit to the truth. obama is not doing what it takes to protect this nation. PERIOD

I'm not for invading Iran or the other knee jerk things many republicans advocate, so I doubt we'll ever agree, but it's not me who is blind to facts. Resent history gives us facts that too many are intent on ignoring.
 
I'm not for invading Iran or the other knee jerk things many republicans advocate, so I doubt we'll ever agree, but it's not me who is blind to facts. Resent history gives us facts that too many are intent on ignoring.
obfuscate 101. First never answer any question directly. Second manufacture a position, statement of fact and assign it to the other side making sure it is something easily refuted or rationalized. Something that makes debates involving the neo puritans a waste of time, space and what little brain power one can muster to keep up. A little like being an Auburn fan where supporting your team breaks down all barriers and parameters. Rendering lies, morality, common sense, history, and the right thing as fleeting shadows. A carnival show. It is not difficult to point out the adults and responsible parties who unfortunately are in the minority now. And the only answer to the old question of "have you no shame" is "of course not"
 
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