How would you feel if Georgia had a Muslim chaplain?

[dieharddawg62]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

 

[UgaTom]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

Are you saying UGA shouldn't have a chaplain at all?

 

[dieharddawg62]

Are you saying UGA shouldn't have a chaplain at all?

Are you saying that it's okay? I do understand why someone could have a problem with it.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[FeralDawg]

As long as he was willing and able to offer me last rites if we were to lose to South Carolina again I'd be OK.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

I would fix him a plate of pork chops, mashed potatoes, and a hearty Christian prayer before he was served his home cooked meal.

 

[dawg-n-pikeco]

Musa has no more eligibility

 

[UgaTom]

Are you saying that it's okay? I do understand why someone could have a problem with it.

You didn't answer the question.

I didn't answer the question because it wasn't clear what your point was. You said that religion shouldn't be forced on anyone. Is that what you think a chaplain does? If so, and we have any non-Christian players on the team, then shouldn't we dispense with a chaplain altogether? If a chaplain is just supposed to be available to talk to players, then we should probably have a chaplain for whatever religions are represented among them, whether that includes Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or whatever.

 

[wayx]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

IF we had a muslim chaplain it would be because the vast majority of our players were muslims. So, IMO, that we would be fine.

And not a single UGA player has EVER complained about having a chaplain.

It's crusading atheists from the outside trying to stir up trouble, get their name in the paper, and maybe have somebody like
Georgia Soros give them a boatload of money.

 

[dieharddawg62]

I personally wouldn't want a Primitive baptist chaplain. Somebody else might not like a Methodist. How bout a Unitarian? I'm certain you get my point.

 

[UgaTom]

I personally wouldn't want a Primitive baptist chaplain. Somebody else might not like a Methodist. How bout a Unitarian? I'm certain you get my point.

Why wouldn't you like a Primitive Baptist chaplain? What is it you think he would do that you would have a problem with?

 

[dieharddawg62]

Why wouldn't you like a Primitive Baptist chaplain? What is it you think he would do that you would have a problem with?

Doesn't matter why, I don't believe the Bible says what they say it says. How bout that?

 

[UgaTom]

Doesn't matter why, I don't believe the Bible says what they say it says. How bout that?

A chaplain says the following brief prayer before a game: "God, please protect the players in today's game from injury and help them to play their best." What is the religion/denomination of the chaplain?

So what is your point? It sounds like you think UGA shouldn't have a chaplain at all since it's doubtful that one could be found whose beliefs would coincide with every member of the team.

 

[dieharddawg62]

A chaplain says the following brief prayer before a game: "God, please protect the players in today's game from injury and help them to play their best." What is the religion/denomination of the chaplain?

So what is your point? It sounds like you think UGA shouldn't have a chaplain at all since it's doubtful that one could be found whose beliefs would coincide with every member of the team.

I'm not doing that at all. Nobody has answered the question. I don't have a problem with the chaplain of the football team.

I do have a problem with a coach getting a pass because he's a Christian. He's paid 4 million a year to coach football and inspire these men to be the best they can be with what their Maker has given them.

In my opinion he is failing at that job!

How's that for some shat stirring? I believe we can do better.

 

[wayx]

I'm not doing that at all. Nobody has answered the question. I don't have a problem with the chaplain of the football team.

I do have a problem with a coach getting a pass because he's a Christian. He's paid 4 million a year to coach football and inspire these men to be the best they can be with what their Maker has given them.

In my opinion he is failing at that job!

How's that for some shat stirring? I believe we can do better.

An atheist and a CMR hater. Boy, are you a loser if you think that's what is keeping him at Georgia.. Richt's 75% winning record in the toughest league in America is what keeps him at Georgia, not his faith....not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[dieharddawg62]

An atheist and a CMR hater. Boy, are you a loser if you think that's whats keeping him at Georgia.. Richt's 75% winning recordin the toughest league in America is what keeps him at Georgia, not his faith....not that there's anything wrong with that.

Sorry, I hurt your feelings. You sound like a redneck baptist.

 

[d-dawg]

If that is the definition of Baptist then I am as red as they come.

 

[dieharddawg62]

So losing to Florida, SC, and GT is the tough part of the SEC? Winning percentages are meaningless if you can't even win the Eastern division of your conference at a time where is the weakest its been in years.

You Richtbots crack me up! Defend him at all cost...Dooley would have two more NCs with the talent Richt has to work with.

 

[dieharddawg62]

An atheist and a CMR hater. Boy, are you a loser if you think that's what is keeping him at Georgia.. Richt's 75% winning record in the toughest league in America is what keeps him at Georgia, not his faith....not that there's anything wrong with that.

But since you like percentages, I have a much higher likes to messages percentage than you. Ha

Mine is almost 10%, yours is 1/2 of 1%. Pretty sad there Waycross!

 

[MartinVanDawgin]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

First off, Georgia doesn't have a chaplain - Georgia FCA has a chaplain, who works for and is paid by FCA and so happens to be granted access to ALL students as a club on campus.

If Fellowship of Muslim Athletes had a chaplain, who worked for and was paid by FMA and so happened to be granted access to ALL students as a club on campus, I would have no problem with it.

This stupid "separation of church and state" is a fundamentally flawed argument. FCA and The University of Georgia don't have to be mutually exclusive of one another to not be considered interdependent, whereby implying a necessary separation for constitutionality.

The people who constantly pick at this lead a cold life. The good part about that is they'll get a lot warmer later on...

I just used a lot of big words in a sentence. I need a nap.

 

[CAThornhill]

1) Separation of Church and State: Chappy's paycheck comes from FCA, not UGA. He's allowed around the team by the grace of Richt, it is not mandated by the University.
2) Like or not, part of the sell for some of these kids' families when they are getting recruited is they are sending their children to a "good Christian man". Having a Christian chaplain around is a part of that MO. If it were the circumstance where UGA has a coach that's a "good Muslim man" and he wants Muslim chaplain, so be it.
3) I would have no problem with a Muslim chaplain under similar circumstances (i.e. a coach that would want a Muslim chaplain). I would not, however, want one mandated to "balance" the viewpoints in the locker room.

I also would lose a lot of respect for CMR if he ever caved to these PC movements. I've spent some time around Chappy and, contrary to what groups like this would have you believe, I never saw him slapping kids in the face with Bibles during their workouts.

 

[bulldog80]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

We ( USA ) are a christian nation, so I'm not shocked.

 

[DawgHammarskjold]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

I feel the training table would not feature pork chops.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

I'm not doing that at all. Nobody has answered the question. I don't have a problem with the chaplain of the football team.

I do have a problem with a coach getting a pass because he's a Christian. He's paid 4 million a year to coach football and inspire these men to be the best they can be with what their Maker has given them.

In my opinion he is failing at that job!

How's that for some shat stirring? I believe we can do better.

Are you asking that we should lynch or shoot him?
He is really stealing from the University with that 75% win rate!

 

[Deadlyputter]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

Number one, The words separation of church and state are not part of the constitution. But the words, "the free exercise therof" are.

Number two, having a chaplain does not constitute the establishment of a religion.

Number three, Name one program started by atheists that benefit the youth of our country. There are many such programs run by religious organizations.

Number four, name one Georgia athlete that was bothered by having access to a Chaplain.

And finally, I am so glad UGA has this program and hope they tell those bozos to MYOB!

 

[oldmandawg]

I think what you believe is personal and it shouldn't be forced on you in anyway by our public institutions. That's why we have separation of church and state.

What's your opinion? This ought to be interesting.

He wood be lonely.

 

[dieharddawg62]

Are you asking that we should lynch or shoot him?
He is really stealing from the University with that 75% win rate!

Don't be ridiculous, I just think that we could do better with the talent this state produces. I like Mark Richt. 75% means nothing when you play 4 cream puff games every year, a weak ass Florida team and TN at it low point.

Georgia has twice the talent of Missouri, yet they get more out of their players than us. That's call being "coached up". We do less with more.

Aren't you guys tired of not going to the SEC championship games? How long before you do decide he needs to go.

How did it feel last year watching Missouri play Alabama and being left out of that game again?

 

[dieharddawg62]

1) Separation of Church and State: Chappy's paycheck comes from FCA, not UGA. He's allowed around the team by the grace of Richt, it is not mandated by the University.
2) Like or not, part of the sell for some of these kids' families when they are getting recruited is they are sending their children to a "good Christian man". Having a Christian chaplain around is a part of that MO. If it were the circumstance where UGA has a coach that's a "good Muslim man" and he wants Muslim chaplain, so be it.
3) I would have no problem with a Muslim chaplain under similar circumstances (i.e. a coach that would want a Muslim chaplain). I would not, however, want one mandated to "balance" the viewpoints in the locker room.

I also would lose a lot of respect for CMR if he ever caved to these PC movements. I've spent some time around Chappy and, contrary to what groups like this would have you believe, I never saw him slapping kids in the face with Bibles during their workouts.

I'm glad that you have it all this spiritual stuff figured out, because I certainly don't.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

Don't be ridiculous, I just think that we could do better with the talent this state produces. I like Mark Richt. 75% means nothing when you play 4 cream puff games every year, a weak ass Florida team and TN at it low point.

Georgia has twice the talent of Missouri, yet they get more out of their players than us. That's call being "coached up". We do less with more.

Aren't you guys tired of not going to the SEC championship games? How long before you do decide he needs to go.

How did it feel last year watching Missouri play Alabama and being left out of that game again?

Ticked me off after we laid 48 on them and they did not score at their house. I agree we have now and in the past seemed to have great talent and been beaten with lesser talent. That is the way the ball roll sometimes, We should have beat bama on 12 for the SEC and won the big title, but we faced another good team that eikeed one out. Tech last year was a total bad coaching call with the squib kick. Tech had been moving the ball well down the field and we should not have given them extra yardage. There are some games where I question the calls and decisions but I really think he can get us there. Why should we not play cream puffs if the rest of the league is doing the same? Might as well save up for the SEC battles.

 

[CAThornhill]

I'm glad that you have it all this spiritual stuff figured out, because I certainly don't.

I wish I had all the spiritual stuff figured out--would frankly like to meet the person that does.

I am, however, STRONGLY opinionated about the hypersensitivity that has blown up in the last decade or so. If this group doesn't like a chaplain with the football team, don't send your kids to play/attend there. Everyone doesn't have to have the same opinion. It is literally a free country.

 

[dieharddawg62]

I wish I had all the spiritual stuff figured out--would frankly like to meet the person that does.

I am, however, STRONGLY opinionated about the hypersensitivity that has blown up in the last decade or so. If this group doesn't like a chaplain with the football team, don't send your kids to play/attend there. Everyone doesn't have to have the same opinion. It is literally a free country.

I hear you. I grew up Baptist and just don't like their legalistic stance that they try to shove down people's throat like they have it all figured out.

 

[whitepug6]

I hear you. I grew up Baptist and just don't like their legalistic stance that they try to shove down people's throat like they have it all figured out.

When I was at UGA, we had a Catholic head football coach and I don't remember there being a Catholic chaplain or any priests on the sidelines, just saying.

 

[FeralDawg]

FSU has had Clint Purvis on the sidelines for as long as I can remember
but he's a Baptist fwiw. Not many people KNOW who the chaplain is.
What is the old saying about there are no atheists in a foxhole?

 

[Dawg 'n IT]

I'm not doing that at all. Nobody has answered the question. I don't have a problem with the chaplain of the football team.

I do have a problem with a coach getting a pass because he's a Christian. He's paid 4 million a year to coach football and inspire these men to be the best they can be with what their Maker has given them.

In my opinion he is failing at that job!

How's that for some shat stirring? I believe we can do better.

You already know my answer because I gave it to you in the nuked thread a few days ago. I fail to see what Richt has to do with the chaplain. You act as if UGA only has a chaplain because of Richt. You ignore the fact that having a team chaplain has been pretty common at a lot of high schools and colleges for many years.

What a weak attack on Richt.

 

[Fivehade]

FSU has had Clint Purvis on the sidelines for as long as I can remember
but he's a Baptist fwiw. Not many people KNOW who the chaplain is.
What is the old saying about there are no atheists in a foxhole?

There's no foxholes in a football contest. I say leave the chaplains at the church house

 

[1966septemberdawg]

There's no foxholes in a football contest. I say leave the chaplains at the church house

So there is no danger on the football field? A foxhole can be used as a metaphor as is here or most circumstances in life.
So we should just because you want that do away with what the MAJORITY of the coaches,players and fans want. I understand you are being tolerant aren't you. Just like the left preaches about tolerance, but can not act on it.

 

[Dawg 'n IT]

I'm going to start a movement banning the use of or reference to "good luck". Luck is not real and therefore someone wishing luck shouldn't be allowed to force their fairytale beliefs on others.

Also, "break a leg" should be considered as a terroristic threat. Ban that phase too.

Any other customs involving hoping for good fortune for others we should ban?

 

[conCOCKshon]

What's next? Removing In God We Trust from money?

Seriously, I get the OP. Be careful what you wish for. I'm Jewish, and I grew up in the South. I have zero problem with chaplains at state universities or Christmas displays on public property. But, that's me. Where I draw the line is where someone tries to shove something down my throat, whether it be Christianity or Atheism or the liberal viewpoint on every single issue. But, the time is coming when Muslim holidays will be recognized in the country. I'm conflicted because I believe strongly in the U.S. and its guarantees of freedom for all, but I also recognize the reality that we were founded on Judeo Christian values. Islam is different.

 

[albanyga]

I'm glad that you have it all this spiritual stuff figured out, because I certainly don't.

Try harder, it's worth the effort.

 

[Fivehade]

So there is no danger on the football field? A foxhole can be used as a metaphor as is here or most circumstances in life.
So we should just because you want that do away with what the MAJORITY of the coaches,players and fans want. I understand you are being tolerant aren't you. Just like the left preaches about tolerance, but can not act on it.

Yeah, I don't know about all that yapping, but my God doesn't really GAS about a football game. Seems spiritually dishonest to me to drag Jesus into UGA vs AU

And there was a time when the majority wanted black people to be enslaved .... The same black people who's descendants carry your football, you drool and pray over

 

[1966septemberdawg]

And there was a time when the majority wanted black people to be enslaved .... The same black people who's descendants carry your football, you drool and pray over[/QUOTE]

You have a really narrow view on life. God cares about all in attendance (players, coaches,all support staff and fans etc.) at a football game so yes he does care about a football game. Get over the slavery issue no one alive today had any part of that or wishes it was still occurring.