Thank you comrade
Evidently a communist Hermaphrodite convention in California.....What is this from?
California HOA meeting?
I thought it was the other way around. Sorry-ass jurists actively trying to undermine the executive branch (and the will of the people...and rule of law) with every fiber of their sorry-ass beingIt’s so cute that this is yalls focus while the current president is actively trying to undermine the judicial branch with every fiber of his being
Nope. When you break the law by claiming we are at war with a non-nation state a judge has the power and obligation to enjoin itI thought it was the other way around. Sorry-ass jurists actively trying to undermine the executive branch (and the will of the people...and rule of law) with every fiber of their sorry-ass being
What can he do if the executive branch ignores him?Nope. When you break the law by claiming we are at war with a non-nation state a judge has the power and obligation to enjoin it
He can hold individuals in contempt and further force a constitutional crisis. And then it is up to regular Americans to decide if they want America to continue.What can he do if the executive branch ignores him?
Yes you have to be careful when you turn a blind eye to the rule of law. It may not be there (or be the same) when you look back. I think regular Americans decided what they want last November. Sucks that sorry-ass jurists are not among themHe can hold individuals in contempt and further force a constitutional crisis. And then it is up to regular Americans to decide if they want America to continue.
we know you are mad as hell that trump won but how about sitting back and seeing what transpires before posting daily about how you disagree with everythingIt’s so cute that this is yalls focus while the current president is actively trying to undermine the judicial branch with every fiber of his being
I truly hope things turn away from the trend and I turn out to be overreacting. Truly. But things like the president’s memo this morning don’t give me much hope.we know you are mad as hell that trump won but how about sitting back and seeing what transpires before posting daily about how you disagree with everything
2 months think about that
you voted for someone that did not do a damn thing in 4 years yet bitching daily
"break the law"?!?! That's literally not the actual ****ing law, nor the numerous Supreme Court decisions that also literally support these actions. I've already shown how this is wrong, to you, in another thread. You ignored it or chose to not respond.Nope. When you break the law by claiming we are at war with a non-nation state a judge has the power and obligation to enjoin it
Not much enforcement capability outside the Executive Branch:What can he do if the executive branch ignores him?
Well. I will give you the good news then. It can’t get worse than it was over the last four years. Which is why your party sits currently at a 19 percent approval rate. For exactly what was posted above.I truly hope things turn away from the trend and I turn out to be overreacting. Truly. But things like the president’s memo this morning don’t give me much hope.
You were so wrong in the prior thread it wasnt worth continuing the back and forth. I explained how the Supreme Court has only weighed in on the use of the law when there was actually a declared war against an actual nation-state. You are being intellectually dishonest to not acknowledge the massive difference"break the law"?!?! That's literally not the actual ****ing law, nor the numerous Supreme Court decisions that also literally support these actions. I've already shown how this is wrong, to you, in another thread. You ignored it or chose to not respond.
What is your specific area of legal expertise? I know you have one...and it's clearly not this.
Just your run of the mill Dems IYAM.Evidently a communist Hermaphrodite convention in California.....
You were so wrong in the prior thread it wasnt worth continuing the back and forth. I explained how the Supreme Court has only weighed in on the use of the law when there was actually a declared war against an actual nation-state. You are being intellectually dishonest to not acknowledge the massive difference
This is not our only focus . We are laughing at all the other dumb sht yall do as well. It’s simple multi tasking.It’s so cute that this is yalls focus while the current president is actively trying to undermine the judicial branch with every fiber of his being
Your sophistry knows no bounds. First, you have now shifted the conversation. What I said was that the Supreme Court has only weighed in on the use of the law ( i.e. the Alien Enemies Act) when there was actually a declared war. And so knowing I am correct you are instead talking about the court’s discussion of asymetric warfare in entirely inapprosite contexts. Tiresome. Moreover, you have skipped right over simple statutory interpretation. The act is limited in applicability to conflicts with “foreign nations or governments.” So if Trump wants to claim some inherent power - fine. Let the Supreme Court decide that. But my point has and remains that his authority is not in any way seriously based on the Alien Enemies statute. Tren de Aragua is not a foreign state or government, and no authority has found that to be a valid reading of the law.
- Then reply and show me where I was wrong.
- You are 100% incorrect here, Bas v. Tingy, required no formal war declaration, The Prize Cases affirms war exists when a foreign entity aggresses, and Hamdi v. Rumsfeld upholds executive power to counter non-state actors. You're claiming some form of "legal truth" with no actual citations.
- You're refusing to acknowledge that the Executive Branch has a case. You may not agree with it..that's fine. But, it's not "half-baked" (as you have referred to it) nor is my defense of it "so wrong...it wasn't worth coninuing.."
Your sophistry knows no bounds. First, you have now shifted the conversation. What I said was that the Supreme Court has only weighed in on the use of the law ( i.e. the Alien Enemies Act) when there was actually a declared war. And so knowing I am correct you are instead talking about the court’s discussion of asymetric warfare in entirely inapprosite contexts. Tiresome. Moreover, you have skipped right over simple statutory interpretation. The act is limited in applicability to conflicts with “foreign nations or governments.” So if Trump wants to claim some inherent power - fine. Let the Supreme Court decide that. But my point has and remains that his authority is not in any way seriously based on the Alien Enemies statute. Tren de Aragua is not a foreign state or government, and no authority has found that to be a valid reading of the law.
Your sophistry knows no bounds. First, you have now shifted the conversation. What I said was that the Supreme Court has only weighed in on the use of the law ( i.e. the Alien Enemies Act) when there was actually a declared war. And so knowing I am correct you are instead talking about the court’s discussion of asymetric warfare in entirely inapprosite contexts. Tiresome. Moreover, you have skipped right over simple statutory interpretation. The act is limited in applicability to conflicts with “foreign nations or governments.” So if Trump wants to claim some inherent power - fine. Let the Supreme Court decide that. But my point has and remains that his authority is not in any way seriously based on the Alien Enemies statute. Tren de Aragua is not a foreign state or government, and no authority has found that to be a valid reading of the law.
- Then reply and show me where I was wrong.
- You are 100% incorrect here, Bas v. Tingy, required no formal war declaration, The Prize Cases affirms war exists when a foreign entity aggresses, and Hamdi v. Rumsfeld upholds executive power to counter non-state actors. You're claiming some form of "legal truth" with no actual citations.
- You're refusing to acknowledge that the Executive Branch has a case. You may not agree with it..that's fine. But, it's not "half-baked" (as you have referred to it) nor is my defense of it "so wrong...it wasn't worth coninuing.."
Have you read up on anything about the judge who made this decision and his family? His daughter literally works for an organization that represents migrants. Her organization is also funded by usaid. I won’t even go into what his wife does.Your sophistry knows no bounds. First, you have now shifted the conversation. What I said was that the Supreme Court has only weighed in on the use of the law ( i.e. the Alien Enemies Act) when there was actually a declared war. And so knowing I am correct you are instead talking about the court’s discussion of asymetric warfare in entirely inapprosite contexts. Tiresome. Moreover, you have skipped right over simple statutory interpretation. The act is limited in applicability to conflicts with “foreign nations or governments.” So if Trump wants to claim some inherent power - fine. Let the Supreme Court decide that. But my point has and remains that his authority is not in any way seriously based on the Alien Enemies statute. Tren de Aragua is not a foreign state or government, and no authority has found that to be a valid reading of the law.
Not interested in this sort of BS. If the merits of the judge’s position are off, it will be overturned on appeal. Move on and don’t get seduced by the authoritarian impulse to undermine separation of powersHave you read up on anything about the judge who made this decision and his family? His daughter literally works for an organization that represents migrants. Her organization is also funded by usaid. I won’t even go into what his wife does.
Is there ever a time this kind of bullshit doesn’t occur with the left and the law. Is there always a conflict of interest. It seems to be eternally built in to every case. I am sure this time he is above board right. I am sure none of these connections have anything to do with his rulings. 🤦♂️. Can they ever at least find a far left judge who doesn’t have massive conflicts with these kind of partisan cases.
Gullible and naive. That is quite the position. I am sure you aren’t interested in arguing it. You know it looks terrible. See. It doesn’t matter what he is actually arguing when now there is a pattern that this kind of shit keeps happening. You don’t want to answer because there isn’t a good one. Like I said, there are tons of left wing loonies like this moron. Could they not find one to do this who doesn’t have massive conflicts of interests. Same with the New York judge. How many times before you or anyone from that ideology admits this may not have been the right guy. From the category of you really can’t make this shit up.Not interested in this sort of BS. If the merits of the judge’s position are off, it will be overturned on appeal. Move on and don’t get seduced by the authoritarian impulse to undermine separation of powers
Judge Hanen. Just stop. Both sides have such judges. With hundreds of judges there are bound to be judges of various ideological bents. That is what the appellate process protects againstGullible and naive. That is quite the position. I am sure you aren’t interested in arguing it. You know it looks terrible. See. It doesn’t matter what he is actually arguing when now there is a pattern that this kind of shit keeps happening. You don’t want to answer because there isn’t a good one. Like I said, there are tons of left wing loonies like this moron. Could they not find one to do this who doesn’t have massive conflicts of interests. Same with the New York judge. How many times before you or anyone from that ideology admits this may not have been the right guy. From the category of you really can’t make this shit up.
Not saying that both sides don’t have such judges. But this judge was chosen to do this. This isn’t just an ideological bend. It is a direct family conflict of interest. And a monetary one at that. The New York judge had a kid who literally made money off the success of his case. Can I get some of that dirty action. It is a nice side step. Very lawyerly of you. Because there is no good reason. How his daughter’s company gets its money is directly tied to the success of this case as well. Find another looney judge. Is it that hard. Just stop acting like this is above board in your responses to lava. You know it is not. That high road you guys used to try to live on is long gone.Judge Hanen. Just stop. Both sides have such judges. With hundreds of judges there are bound to be judges of various ideological bents. That is what the appellate process protects against