If Richt stays, who should be let go, who should be brought in ?..

[HeulenHund2]

Let's try to stick to that scenario, not whether Richt should or shouldn't be kept.

IF Richt is retained it's absolutely a must to bring in a top college OC.
I think Richt would be smart to look at what Gary Patterson did at TCU. He had run pro-style offenses and great defenses his whole career. In 2013 he chucked the offense and brought in co-OCs with backgrounds in the spread. It has been a complete success, and it was so right away.
I think We have more talent than TCU and if Richt made the bold move and hired TCU co-OC Sonny Cumbie it would add energy and excitement to the program, not to mention offense.
Coach Cumbie is also more like Richt in his personal life than just about anybody, he even has Richt's wry sense of humor, he is Christian and extremely family oriented. I think they'd be a good team.
Richt would have to let go a bit though, which IMO would be good for him and the program.
I do think CMR could tweek QB training to make it a bit more professional, but please not at the expense of playing fast and loose.

 

[Fivehade]

Let's try to stick to that scenario, not whether Richt should or shouldn't be kept.

IF Richt is retained it's absolutely a must to bring in a top college OC.
I think Richt would be smart to look at what Gary Patterson did at TCU. He had run pro-style offenses and great defenses his whole career. In 2013 he chucked the offense and brought in co-OCs with backgrounds in the spread. It has been a complete success, and it was so right away.
I think We have more talent than TCU and if Richt made the bold move and hired TCU co-OC Sonny Cumbie it would add energy and excitement to the program, not to mention offense.
Coach Cumbie is also more like Richt in his personal life than just about anybody, he even has Richt's wry sense of humor, he is Christian and extremely family oriented. I think they'd be a good team.
Richt would have to let go a bit though, which IMO would be good for him and the program.
I do think CMR could tweek QB training to make it a bit more professional, but please not at the expense of playing fast and loose.

3 OCs in 3 years = certain failure

 

[HeulenHund2]

3 OCs in 3 years = certain failure

Not really, it's just a number.
We will have a third OC, or we'll be in deep chit.
The only certain failure would be to keep Schotty.

 

[Fivehade]

Not really, it's just a number.
We will have a third OC, or we'll be in deep chit.
The only certain failure would be to keep Schotty.

I think donnan turned over a lot of assistants too, in search of the magical hire...didn't work for him ...but I thought they shoulda kept donnan a few more years too, so what the hell do I know

firing coaches solves nothing .... players make plays and the dawgs need better ones. Clemson has them right now

 

[HeulenHund2]

I think donnan turned over a lot of assistants too, in search of the magical hire...didn't work for him ...but I thought they shoulda kept donnan a few more years too, so what the hell do I know

firing coaches solves nothing .... players make plays and the dawgs need better ones. Clemson has them right now

You couldn't be more wrong, coaching is 70% of a winning formula in college football. Look at what is being accomplished at UF with the same players that got their last coach fired.

 

[Fivehade]

You couldn't be more wrong, coaching is 70% of a winning formula in college football. Look at what is being accomplished at UF with the same players that got their last coach fired.

bs....that's all smoke and mirrors used to justify the insane salarie plus mask the fact that these programs are more about revenue than anything else ...

... high talent players make the difference ... a good coach can help, sure, but isn't the vast majority of the success as you claim . I know all y'all wanna believe in the great white father that will redeem your lives, but it just ain't so...he's an important figure, but I'd use 25% of the picture if i HAD to pick one

 

[HeulenHund2]

bs....that's all smoke and mirrors used to justify the insane salarie plus mask the fact that these programs are more about revenue than anything else ...

... high talent players make the difference ... a good coach can help, sure, but isn't the vast majority of the success as you claim . I know all y'all wanna believe in the great white father that will redeem your lives, but it just ain't so...he's an important figure, but I'd use 25% of the picture if i HAD to pick one

You know about as much about what wins in CFB as I know about basket weaving, which is very little. Top coaches win wherever they go.

 

[Fivehade]

You know about as much about what wins in CFB as I know about basket weaving, which is very little. Top coaches win wherever they go.

when's the last time the dawgs had an all American ?

 

[HeulenHund2]

when's the last time the dawgs had an all American ?

Gurley, Jarvis, Knowshon, Murray. Chubb was a first team freshman AA just last season.

 

[Fivehade]

Gurley, Jarvis, Knowshon, Murray. Chubb was a first team freshman AA just last season.

freshman all American hardly counts...Jarvis is the only one on your list that's a real AA

knowshon was 2nd team AA

 

[gawga_dawg]

freshman all American hardly counts...Jarvis is the only one on your list that's a real AA

knowshon was 2nd team AA

bs....that's all smoke and mirrors used to justify the insane salarie plus mask the fact that these programs are more about revenue than anything else ...

... high talent players make the difference ... a good coach can help, sure, but isn't the vast majority of the success as you claim . I know all y'all wanna believe in the great white father that will redeem your lives, but it just ain't so...he's an important figure, but I'd use 25% of the picture if i HAD to pick one

You are brain dead if you think talent is our problem. You care more about Richt than you do UGA, so you'll come up with any reason not to put the blame on him.

 

[HeulenHund2]

freshman all American hardly counts...Jarvis is the only one on your list that's a real AA

knowshon was 2nd team AA

All of those players were stars, as was AJ Green, Justin Houston and many more very good players who are currently living their dreams in The NFL.
What exactly is the point you're trying to make ?
UGA is very successful in putting players in The NFL.

 

[REAdawg]

I think donnan turned over a lot of assistants too, in search of the magical hire...didn't work for him ...but I thought they shoulda kept donnan a few more years too, so what the hell do I know

firing coaches solves nothing .... players make plays and the dawgs need better ones. Clemson has them right now

Didn't work out for Tubberville at AU either...he had the revolving coaches door

 

[dieharddawg62]

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St, 3 of the top 4 ranked playoff teams disagree. Those schools in order ran Shula, T Bowden, (two fine Christian men) and Tressel. Also UGA is one of a handful of top half dozen schools with the most players on NFL rosters. They have 47. Alabama has 52. But Georgia has far more players actually drafted over the past 10 seasons than any school not named Miami. And the state of Georgia has more players on current NFL rosters than any other than Tx, Fl, Ca. With NO instate competition! Florida has Miami, FSU to contend with. 2 biggies. But McElwain has made a huge difference in place of WM. Ca has USC, Stanford, UCLA and Cal fighting it out. Texas has Aggies, Horns, TCU, Baylor (plus OU) all trying. Georgia actually has zero instate. The last recruit GT actually got was the receiver Johnson maybe 10 years or so ago. Not sure when but it was a while. Plus dawgs have own personal lay out, feeder JC in GMC. And the hope for specialists and walkons like fullbacks and the team traditionally has a couple real walkon players every year who play and contribute. Those things plus the wild fan support, biggest black population of any state in Union and over 10M pop is why the line to et the Georgia job would be long. Divide the state pop to recruit from of border and rival states. UM, FSU and UF have 16.5 million divided by 3 or 5,5. USC and Clemson have 4.8 divided by 2 or 2.4 same as UA/AU. Tenn has no comp so they have 5m from a state that produces basically very little. UGA has almost 11M. Ohio St and Georgia but Ohio St does not have the big time athletes (read black). Nor does Texas or Ca per capita.

Thank you for explaining this to Richtbots. You should pay whatever it takes to get a top coach. Georgia can afford it.

 

[Fivehade]

All of those players were stars, as was AJ Green, Justin Houston and many more very good players who are currently living their dreams in The NFL.
What exactly is the point you're trying to make ?
UGA is very successful in putting players in The NFL.

I'm not talking about the NFL and what they do there. I'm talking about college AAs. I thought I was clear about that

 

[gawga_dawg]

I'm not talking about the NFL and what they do there. I'm talking about college AAs. I thought I was clear about that

UGA players being drafted and flourishing in the NFL only proves the vast amount of talent that Richt has wasted and not developed. There have also been many All-Americans in Richt's tenure at UGA. You act like All-Americans just grow on trees and that they're a common occurrence. They're not. There are a ton of All-Pros in the NFL who never even got close to AA status. There are a ton of great players in college that aren't AAs. You're being silly. Talent is not a problem at UGA. Development of that talent is a problem.

 

[W&I]

Is it not telling that 2 star genus who we did not develop is arguably our MVP over a slew of 4 and 5 star players. And many Uga players seem to be better pros than they were in college

 

[ck5nole]

Let's try to stick to that scenario, not whether Richt should or shouldn't be kept.

IF Richt is retained it's absolutely a must to bring in a top college OC.
I think Richt would be smart to look at what Gary Patterson did at TCU. He had run pro-style offenses and great defenses his whole career. In 2013 he chucked the offense and brought in co-OCs with backgrounds in the spread. It has been a complete success, and it was so right away.
I think We have more talent than TCU and if Richt made the bold move and hired TCU co-OC Sonny Cumbie it would add energy and excitement to the program, not to mention offense.
Coach Cumbie is also more like Richt in his personal life than just about anybody, he even has Richt's wry sense of humor, he is Christian and extremely family oriented. I think they'd be a good team.
Richt would have to let go a bit though, which IMO would be good for him and the program.
I do think CMR could tweek QB training to make it a bit more professional, but please not at the expense of playing fast and loose.

He would be lipstick on a pig...YOU STILL HAVE RICHT.