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The Democrats can say and do anything because they know mail ins will allow them to cheat and no reporting from any media outlets. We no longer have any reporters only policy backers on video.
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
 
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).

Big difference between vote by mail and absentee also,,, who in the world wants to end up like oregon???? thats where portlandia is for goodness sake.
 
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
No when you have all elected democrat in twenty years Your right nothing here, and the labs in Florida had 100% positive on all test, Maybe we could start a list of things you believe.
1. 2+2 is not 4
2 mail ins are perfectly honest
3 Easter bunny
4 etc
 
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
For the 1000th time .....absentee is fine ....where a citizen actually has to request a ballot and have some proof of ID
 
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
I don't think I'd have posted that one.....................now we know why Oregon is so screwed up.
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Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
Trump requested an absentee ballot. Complete apples and oranges and you know it. Personally, I think you should even have to do that at a courthouse or city hall or somewhere monitored in the county you vote, like I had to do in college. They even made me take my Georgia fees paid card to prove I was not gping to be in town. IIRC, just going on vacation didnt get you one. You had to prove you were at school, would be out of town on business, or could not be there due to a truly legit reason. IOW, a real excuse for not standing in line and casting your vote at the polls. Georgia was very strict about it back in the day. And F' early voting too. Make an effort or you dont get to vote. And show a damn ID.
 
Trump requested an absentee ballot. Complete apples and oranges and you know it. Personally, I think you should even have to do that at a courthouse or city hall or somewhere monitored in the county you vote, like I had to do in college. They even made me take my Georgia fees paid card to prove I was not gping to be in town. IIRC, just going on vacation didnt get you one. You had to prove you were at school, would be out of town on business, or could not be there due to a truly legit reason. IOW, a real excuse for not standing in line and casting your vote at the polls. Georgia was very strict about it back in the day. And F' early voting too. Make an effort or you dont get to vote. And show a damn ID.
Yes, we should do everything the way they did it when you were in college. I had to sign up for classes at Georgia in Memorial Hall and fill out some little punch card or whatever it was. Screw this online registration. If you aren’t willing to invest the time to sign up for a class you don’t deserve to be in that class.
 
Yes, we should do everything the way they did it when you were in college. I had to sign up for classes at Georgia in Memorial Hall and fill out some little punch card or whatever it was. Screw this online registration. If you aren’t willing to invest the time to sign up for a class you don’t deserve to be in that class.
Did this sound like a good point in your head?

No one is saying you can’t use the mail for an absentee ballot, simply that mass mailing out of millions of blank ballots is a terrible idea. See The NY district that couldn’t declare a winner for over a month and imagine that at a scale thousands of times larger.

These would need to be verified and it opens up easy avenues for fraud.
 
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
Not really a good example for fairness and logical thought. Portland calls burning buildings with Cops in them “Peaceful Protest”.
 
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Yes, we should do everything the way they did it when you were in college. I had to sign up for classes at Georgia in Memorial Hall and fill out some little punch card or whatever it was. Screw this online registration. If you aren’t willing to invest the time to sign up for a class you don’t deserve to be in that class.
The world would be better if we did. Would be better if we went even further back than my heyday, too. I'm a pastoralist. I've read the definitions so you dont have to copy and paste them and call me a luddite. I am a Pat Buchanan style political pastoralist so I can live with being a luddite too. And yes, I dont mind and prefer a student having to get out of their pajamas and get off their ass to go register for classes. The world did just fine offline. Give me a rotary phone, a good electric trpewriter and a rooftop TV antenna. As far as research and knowledge, a physical Library and printed books worked fine for centuries. And I also dont want the govt to be able.to see what I am reading without a warrant. I'd even be OK with mono and not stereo. And F' a walkman, too. I could keep going.
 
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No when you have all elected democrat in twenty years Your right nothing here, and the labs in Florida had 100% positive on all test, Maybe we could start a list of things you believe.
1. 2+2 is not 4
2 mail ins are perfectly honest
3 Easter bunny
4 etc

Would you expect the president to stand in line at some filthy polling station in that democrat-controlled cesspool and wait for one of your comrades to shoot him?

What cracks me up is no one knows a thing about me or my politics yet bc I am not following the cult of Orange Donnie and blindly accepting that mail in voting is a massive, coordinated effort by the Democrats to win the election due to stuffing the ballot box, according to people here I am an idiot who believes in the Easter bunny and i have comrades who want to off him. I voted for Trump in 2016 and see 2020 as an election without a candidate I am excited about at all.

I work in corporate finance and have for a long time...which is only relevant bc one of the foundational elements of my job is to be objective, follow the data rather than make unfounded assumptions, and to look out for the biases from others and myself. So I ask again, where is any evidence of voter fraud? Don’t just listen to the talking points without any evidence, but let’s see if there has been fraud.

I rarely venture onto the chat bc there is rarely a discussion with people that doesn’t devolve into people on both sides just blindly insulting those who may not agree with them, much like this thread.
 
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What cracks me up is no one knows a thing about me or my politics yet bc I am not following the cult of Orange Donnie and blindly accepting that mail in voting is a massive, coordinated effort by the Democrats to win the election due to stuffing the ballot box, according to people here I am an idiot who believes in the Easter bunny and i have comrades who want to off him. I voted for Trump in 2016 and see 2020 as an election without a candidate I am excited about at all.

I work in corporate finance and have for a long time...which is only relevant bc one of the foundational elements of my job is to be objective, follow the data rather than make unfounded assumptions, and to look out for the biases from others and myself. So I ask again, where is any evidence of voter fraud? Don’t just listen to the talking points without any evidence, but let’s see if there has been fraud.

I rarely venture onto the chat bc there is rarely a discussion with people that doesn’t devolve into people on both sides just blindly insulting those who may not agree with them, much like this thread.
There have already been 6 assassination attempts on the President. You can do your own research on that, especially since you research for a living.
 
What cracks me up is no one knows a thing about me or my politics yet bc I am not following the cult of Orange Donnie and blindly accepting that mail in voting is a massive, coordinated effort by the Democrats to win the election due to stuffing the ballot box, according to people here I am an idiot who believes in the Easter bunny and i have comrades who want to off him. I voted for Trump in 2016 and see 2020 as an election without a candidate I am excited about at all.

I work in corporate finance and have for a long time...which is only relevant bc one of the foundational elements of my job is to be objective, follow the data rather than make unfounded assumptions, and to look out for the biases from others and myself. So I ask again, where is any evidence of voter fraud? Don’t just listen to the talking points without any evidence, but let’s see if there has been fraud.

I rarely venture onto the chat bc there is rarely a discussion with people that doesn’t devolve into people on both sides just blindly insulting those who may not agree with them, much like this thread.
Most countries of the world ban mail-in voting due to fraud & vote buying

Among OECD (members of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development) countries besides the United States, the report states that 78% of the countries either do not allow mail-in ballots “for people living in the country” or require a photo ID to get a mail-in ballot. In the EU, 85% of countries either bar mail-in ballots for people not living abroad or require a photo ID for such a ballot, according to the report. And every European country that is not a member of the EU has mail-in policies that fall into that category.
https://www.independentsentinel.com...-ban-mail-in-voting-due-to-fraud-vote-buying/



 
Big difference between vote by mail and absentee also,,, who in the world wants to end up like oregon???? thats where portlandia is for goodness sake.
To be fair Colorado has been doing in mail in voting for a while as well and it was mostly republicans winning. Maybe you have your own opinions of that state but I haven't heard anything outlandish.
 
There have already been 6 assassination attempts on the President. You can do your own research on that, especially since you research for a living.
I don’t do research for a living...I am still waiting for more than just a statement that mail in = fraud.
 
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Most countries of the world ban mail-in voting due to fraud & vote buying

Among OECD (members of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development) countries besides the United States, the report states that 78% of the countries either do not allow mail-in ballots “for people living in the country” or require a photo ID to get a mail-in ballot. In the EU, 85% of countries either bar mail-in ballots for people not living abroad or require a photo ID for such a ballot, according to the report. And every European country that is not a member of the EU has mail-in policies that fall into that category.
https://www.independentsentinel.com...-ban-mail-in-voting-due-to-fraud-vote-buying/


That doesn’t begin to answer my question. Earlier, when I brought up Oregon, people laughed and wondered why we would want to emulate Oregon given they are a blue state. So why should we care what Europe (with many socialist leaning governments) does r doesn’t do?

Still waiting on facts that show fraud.
 
That doesn’t begin to answer my question. Earlier, when I brought up Oregon, people laughed and wondered why we would want to emulate Oregon given they are a blue state. So why should we care what Europe (with many socialist leaning governments) does r doesn’t do?

Still waiting on facts that show fraud.
If you can’t figure out why mail-in voting is vulnerable to fraud, then you don’t have any critical thinking skills. Also, I provided you with information that many countries have banned mail-in voting due to fraud and vote buying. Do you think these issues will magically not exist if mail-in voting is allowed here? Better yet how about you explain why mail-in voting is not vulnerable to fraud?
 
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My point is that we have plenty of info on mail in ballots in the US. The US isn’t Europe and doesn’t have the same infrastructure or processes.

just bc something is vulnerable to fraud if the right steps aren’t taken doesn’t mean that those vulnerabilities can’t be mitigated.
 
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My point is that we have plenty of info on mail in ballots in the US. The US isn’t Europe and doesn’t have the same infrastructure or processes.

just bc something is vulnerable to fraud if the right steps aren’t taken doesn’t mean that those vulnerabilities can’t be mitigated.
Exactly how do we mitigate those vulnerabilities? What controls would you put in place to prevent fraud?
 
Yes, we should do everything the way they did it when you were in college. I had to sign up for classes at Georgia in Memorial Hall and fill out some little punch card or whatever it was. Screw this online registration. If you aren’t willing to invest the time to sign up for a class you don’t deserve to be in that class.

Wait,, you were able to get into some college somewhere... Man, requirements have fallen through the floor. This is very scary.. this fella represents a modern day college student. Full of poop and dumb as a rock.
 
To be fair Colorado has been doing in mail in voting for a while as well and it was mostly republicans winning. Maybe you have your own opinions of that state but I haven't heard anything outlandish.

Good grief,,, you know good and well the ONLY reason the dims want this is because they can't win without ceating. You know they want to have every illegal (NON-CITIZEN) vote, you know they want to go through poor sections and direct people how to vote. Why do you libs hate America and want it destroyed????? Why not just move to the socialist paradise of you choice. There has to be one you really love since you all want to take us that way..

As far a Colorado goes,,, they are not a state that I want to be governed like either.

Why do dims want non citizens to vote?
Why do dims not care about law and order?
(It took till yesterday for your doofus Joe to be told to say something about the rioting,, ,the dim party loved it because they thought it was hurting Trump,, now they see it is coming back to get them,,, they supported it,,, lied about the violence of it, many still lie about the violence of it, and they promote it) gee what a great party to be a part of
Why do dims hate capitalisms?
Why do dims always use race baiting?
Why would anyone want a voting system that would obviously be the easiest form of voting to manipulate to be the one to elect our leaders, when we are at the precipice for America as we know it,,, freedom, capitalism etc, all down the drain for socialism, big brother etc... Fools get what fools ask for. What are you asking for?
 
Good grief,,, you know good and well the ONLY reason the dims want this is because they can't win without ceating. You know they want to have every illegal (NON-CITIZEN) vote, you know they want to go through poor sections and direct people how to vote. Why do you libs hate America and want it destroyed????? Why not just move to the socialist paradise of you choice. There has to be one you really love since you all want to take us that way..

As far a Colorado goes,,, they are not a state that I want to be governed like either.

Why do dims want non citizens to vote?
Why do dims not care about law and order?
(It took till yesterday for your doofus Joe to be told to say something about the rioting,, ,the dim party loved it because they thought it was hurting Trump,, now they see it is coming back to get them,,, they supported it,,, lied about the violence of it, many still lie about the violence of it, and they promote it) gee what a great party to be a part of
Why do dims hate capitalisms?
Why do dims always use race baiting?
Why would anyone want a voting system that would obviously be the easiest form of voting to manipulate to be the one to elect our leaders, when we are at the precipice for America as we know it,,, freedom, capitalism etc, all down the drain for socialism, big brother etc... Fools get what fools ask for. What are you asking for?
Show me where I stated that I was voting for Biden? Or Trump? Just stating facts that were relevant.
 
No disrespect to Horowitz, but I dont need to read his book, to figure out what the Democrats are up to.

1. Character assault on Trump
2. Strategy for election fraud.
3. Orchestrate chaos
4. Eliminate law and order
5. Increase government dependence
6. Eliminate individual ownership of property etc
7. Use the media control information
8. Assume control.
 
Oregon has been voting by mail for 20 years, and other states have been doing it too....and Trump voted by mail...where is any evidence of any voter fraud (above and beyond what happens with in-person voting).
What other states? Oregon is full of left wing Ding Bats just like Washington and Ca. . Absentee ballots are offered by all states but it used by small percentage of the register voters and doesn't represent the near the problem of total voting by mail. We know from recent election in some states that there is a high probably of fraud . Then if Trump wins the Dems will challenge every ballot in every state and try to keep the election from being certified by Jan 20 so Pelosi will be installed as President untill results are certified. If people can go to the grocery store and shop they can go to the voting both. The same people who push for total mail in are same people who think their is no need for Voter ID. All this total BS it's nothing but the socialist are scared their agenda will be set back for years if Trump can get 1 or 2 more Supreme Court picks..There is nothing they want do to try to prevent this. Americans who want to remain free better wake up and send these Democrats back home and let them spend their Millions that they made while serving us.
 
What cracks me up is no one knows a thing about me or my politics yet bc I am not following the cult of Orange Donnie and blindly accepting that mail in voting is a massive, coordinated effort by the Democrats to win the election due to stuffing the ballot box, according to people here I am an idiot who believes in the Easter bunny and i have comrades who want to off him. I voted for Trump in 2016 and see 2020 as an election without a candidate I am excited about at all.

I work in corporate finance and have for a long time...which is only relevant bc one of the foundational elements of my job is to be objective, follow the data rather than make unfounded assumptions, and to look out for the biases from others and myself. So I ask again, where is any evidence of voter fraud? Don’t just listen to the talking points without any evidence, but let’s see if there has been fraud.

I rarely venture onto the chat bc there is rarely a discussion with people that doesn’t devolve into people on both sides just blindly insulting those who may not agree with them, much like this thread.
Just to clue you in....If you call it "the cult of Orange Donnie", we know your politics.
Amazin'
 
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