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Inflation down, even NYT admits it . . .

Is it up or down? Down. Because if it were up we’d never hear the end of it.
It’s down ever so slightly from the surge of inflation we’ve been going through since Trump took office. Go back and look at the NYT graph you cited. See that giant downward slope from 9% to 3%? That wasn’t your boy. See that bounce back upwards? That was.

But congratulations.
 
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Also, Europe fighting back with $28 billion in tariffs on anything they can find to tax, like Jack Daniel’s, and ? They buy very little from us. Again, I feel a lawsuit fine against Google and Meta coming on
Cpi will continue down because of the lag in housing data. Rents have been flat or down for two years. They are about to shoot up again due to the dearth of new rental supply caused by the rise in interest rates.....but the cpi calc won't capture that for another year or so. Oil being down affects a lot of the cpi as well.
 
It’s down ever so slightly from the surge of inflation we’ve been going through since Trump took office. Go back and look at the NYT graph you cited. See that giant downward slope from 9% to 3%? That wasn’t your boy. See that bounce back upwards? That was.

But congratulations.
So your point is that inflation went from 1.9% to over 10% from 2021-2023.....and then flattened around 3%? And in the month since Trump took office it remained at 3%?

And this is somehow a knock on Trump?

Inflation will do what it does under Trump....who knows. But your post does nothing but explain why he won.
 
I thought the causes of inflation have been explained to death, but I guess not.

And inflation rose significantly when your boy took office, has gone back down a little (though still higher than when he came in) and you want to beat your chest about it? You do you.
 
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So your point is that inflation went from 1.9% to over 10% from 2021-2023.....and then flattened around 3%? And in the month since Trump took office it remained at 3%?

And this is somehow a knock on Trump?

Inflation will do what it does under Trump....who knows. But your post does nothing but explain why he won.
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Dems ignore what they do to destroy the country and then when the smallest indicator suggests any turmoil in the economy they repeat their talking points for years ad nauseam.
 
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Dems ignore what they do to destroy the country and then when the smallest indicator suggests any turmoil in the economy they repeat their talking points for years ad nauseam.
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
 
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
Ok, so inflation is compouinded, correct? So, the 9%+ we were paying under Biden still exists below the 2.8% from February. yes.

In addition, you suggested a "significant increase" in inflation under Trump. Trump took office Jan 20th, correct? Inflation in January, under Biden policy, was 3%. February inflation was 2.8% under Trump.
 
And inflation rose significantly when your boy took office, has gone back down a little (though still higher than when he came in) and you want to beat your chest about it? You do you.
You're simply wrong here. How are you measuring inflation numbers since Trump took office? There is no honest assessment that claims, "inflation rose significantly". This is literally from his first full month:





 
It’s down ever so slightly from the surge of inflation we’ve been going through since Trump took office. Go back and look at the NYT graph you cited. See that giant downward slope from 9% to 3%? That wasn’t your boy. See that bounce back upwards? That was.

But congratulations.
Go back even further to Trump’s last day in office his first term. What was it 1.9% before the explosion??
 
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
when did inflation go up under Trump? CPI is at its' lowest year over year level since 2022
 
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
This argument isn’t going to end well for you. No one said best president ever. All of you have predicted inflation will go crazy under Trump. Well. That just isn’t true so far. Do you buy groceries? Do you pay a power bill? Just these two things. Go back and tell me what you were paying on 1-20-2021. And tell me what you were paying a month ago. I can tell you how much it has changed in my household. This is just two things that changed. Quite frankly I think the numbers quantifying inflation under Biden are no where close to right. Weeks worth of cooking and groceries for my home was 350 dollars in 21. Now it is 600. I do a flat bill for ga power. It is up 50 percent or more.

I think inflation could still be on the way. But arguing anything regarding inflation after what Biden did is just terrible brother. His answer. Sorry. Can’t do anything about it. Wtf. At least Trump is front and center with this issue
 
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
I may be wrong but I thought the inflation for the 4th quarter of 2024 was adjusted up from the 2.2% to 4.2%? I will have to confirm that but certainly the record deficit spending and trade deficits in 2024 had no effect on our current situation.
 
Sorry, but the CPI isn't worth talking about. Has anyone heard how the "formula" calculates changes in housing costs?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) calculates owners' equivalent rent (OER) by surveying homeowners about how much they would charge to rent their homes. The BLS uses this information to estimate shelter costs, which are then used to calculate the Consumer Price Index (CPI).

In 1987, the method for estimating the owners' equivalent rent of primary residence index was changed to use a sample of homeowners to estimate the price movement of the shelter service of the owned homes rather than reweight the renter sample.


So, homeowners - in a survey - are asked to "guess" how much their home would rent for, using no expertise whatsoever. SCIENCE!

Ergo, The Bureau of Lies and Scams nickname.
 
It’s down ever so slightly from the surge of inflation we’ve been going through since Trump took office. Go back and look at the NYT graph you cited. See that giant downward slope from 9% to 3%? That wasn’t your boy. See that bounce back upwards? That was.

But congratulations.
You mean the 11 days in January? Come on, you’re being ridiculous
 
Sorry, but the CPI isn't worth talking about. Has anyone heard how the "formula" calculates changes in housing costs?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) calculates owners' equivalent rent (OER) by surveying homeowners about how much they would charge to rent their homes. The BLS uses this information to estimate shelter costs, which are then used to calculate the Consumer Price Index (CPI).

In 1987, the method for estimating the owners' equivalent rent of primary residence index was changed to use a sample of homeowners to estimate the price movement of the shelter service of the owned homes rather than reweight the renter sample.


So, homeowners - in a survey - are asked to "guess" how much their home would rent for, using no expertise whatsoever. SCIENCE!

Ergo, The Bureau of Lies and Scams nickname.
There is no doubt the way they measure CPI, specifically OER....is ridiculously archaic, especially when we have access to truly real-time data on rents with zillow, property management companies publishing rents online, redfin, etc.....multifamily REIT reporting, etc.

In addition to using surveys, the rent changes are only picked up as leases turn over, creating a 12 month lag. Contributed to the fed being late on adjusting policy to inflation.....and it has absolutely contributed to the fed being late on cutting rates, as cpi has been overstating rent increases for 18 months. Truth is that rents on new leases have been lower or flat for two years....especially in the sunbelt.

What you'll see now is rents go up, beginning this summer, as the effect of higher rates on the construction of new apartments is finally taking effect. We will go from peak(historically high) new supply of apartments in 2Q24 to historically low deliveries in late 2025 through 2026....and you can't just wave a wand and start delivering units. Planning, entitlements, permitting, design, capitalization.....this takes a long time, and then it takes 22-24 months to actually build the project. Bottom line - rents will sky-rocket again, but the cpi won't pick it up.

CPI should now benefit from the lag effect of flat or lower rents......bringing the average down in coming months. The fed says they take into account the real-time data, but their policy seems to remain focused on the archaic cpi data.
 
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I thought the causes of inflation have been explained to death, but I guess not.

And inflation rose significantly when your boy took office, has gone back down a little (though still higher than when he came in) and you want to beat your chest about it? You do you.
What did your "Boy" do....20% ++ In his 4 years. Groceries I buy went up 20-50% and packaging size shrunk 15-25% Facts.....
 
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There is no doubt the way they measure CPI, specifically OER....is ridiculously archaic, especially when we have access to truly real-time data on rents with zillow, property management companies publishing rents online, redfin, etc.....multifamily REIT reporting, etc.

In addition to using surveys, the rent changes are only picked up as leases turn over, creating a 12 month lag. Contributed to the fed being late on adjusting policy to inflation.....and it has absolutely contributed to the fed being late on cutting rates, as cpi has been overstating rent increases for 18 months. Truth is that rents on new leases have been lower or flat for two years....especially in the sunbelt.

What you'll see now is rents go up, beginning this summer, as the effect of higher rates on the construction of new apartments is finally taking effect. We will go from peak(historically high) new supply of apartments in 2Q24 to historically low deliveries in late 2025 through 2026....and you can't just wave a wand and start delivering units. Planning, entitlements, permitting, design, capitalization.....this takes a long time, and then it takes 22-24 months to actually build the project. Bottom line - rents will sky-rocket again, but the cpi won't pick it up.

CPI should now benefit from the lag effect of flat or lower rents......bringing the average down in coming months. The fed says they take into account the real-time data, but their policy seems to remain focused on the archaic cpi data.
The CPI is just a tool/measure. The better measure is “real wages”. Trump excelled there for 4 years.

Would have to look it up again, but believe he/we did better there than those before him dating back to Carter.
 
I'm going to miss Will, Kidney and Shonuff. I actually like them.

They will reply that this is a function of the oil market pricing in a recession. There may be a tiny element of higher recession risk priced into oil.....as that dynamic has affected the bond and equity markets, but the truth is that this fall in oil was happening even when the market was ripping on Trump's de-regulatory and lower tax outlook.

By simply signaling a business friendly environment to oil companies, it opens up the financing market for further exploration and production. Quite a 180 from the "we hope to eliminate fossil fuels completely by year xxxx" message and EV mandates. Finally being on the doorstep of peace in Europe has got to help also.

Winning.
 
I thought the causes of inflation have been explained to death, but I guess not.

And inflation rose significantly when your boy took office, has gone back down a little (though still higher than when he came in) and you want to beat your chest about it? You do you.
He's repeating the success of his first term, and he's doing it faster than I thought would happen. Just enjoy some good news for a change and thank G-d you were born here.
 
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
Would you rather have had Queen WordSalad? I’m not a Trump fan, but I can tell which boat I’d rather be in.
 
So this is the argument:

Biden: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Worst president ever.

Trump: Inflation went up. Even though it went back down, it was still higher than when he took office. Best president ever.

I know, I know. Sample size, etc. But y'all are not grading on the same curve. And this whole "I'm ready for it to get worse before it gets better/have to break some eggs to make an omelet" bullshit y'all are spouting now was nowhere to be found before the election. The Trump magic wand will fix everything. The same magic wand that shithoused a bunch of casinos.
Nothing went “back down”. Maybe it stopped increasing at such an excessive rate.
 
Pretty sure he has his paddle raised with the message - “I’m not talking”
You know, for a bunch of people bitching about the economy and the direction of this country, y’all sure do a lot of not working.

Why don’t you log the f*** off for a while and touch grass?
 
The announcement of January cpi? 11 days in office? In a month when companies traditionally bump their prices?

I would stick to prognostications about how musk and tariffs are going to wreck the economy.
So he can solve the Middle East before he takes office, but not the economy. Got it.
 
18-month high announced 2/12/25.
That was for January numbers, sir. This is an exceptionally weak argument, especially given the February numbers.

You need new sources or understand what you're reading:


On February 12, 2025, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics released the Consumer Price Index (CPI) report for January 2025, announcing an annual inflation rate of 3.0% for the 12 months ending in January. This marked the highest inflation rate since June 2024, approximately 18 months prior, when inflation had peaked at higher levels before gradually declining. Various sources, including Reuters and CNN Business, described this as the most significant increase in nearly 1.5 years (or roughly 18 months), highlighting a notable uptick from the 2.9% recorded in December 2024. This rise was driven by broad-based price increases, including a 53% year-over-year surge in egg prices due to an avian flu outbreak, alongside higher costs for groceries, energy, and services like motor vehicle insurance and prescription medication.
This 3.0% annual rate, while not as extreme as the 9.1% peak seen in June 2022, stood out as a reversal of the disinflation trend observed through much of 2024, prompting concerns about persistent inflationary pressures and potential delays in Federal Reserve interest rate cuts.

That says far more about Biden than anything about Trump. But carry on.
 
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You know, for a bunch of people bitching about the economy and the direction of this country, y’all sure do a lot of not working.

Why don’t you log the f*** off for a while and touch grass?
“Not working”??….. I can multitask & not worry about anyone looking over me.

Pick and choose your battles or make your point - pretty sure that what you’re talking about is not a winner.

Is Bobo in your ear telling U what play to run - and who is “y’all”??
 
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