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It's a damned shame regarding the scrutiny Ben Carson...

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Is receiving from the liberal media.

Hell, Obama achieved absolutely nothing and was doing blow through college.

Carson is a brilliant surgeon and has been forthright on all levels.

We will never again have competent leadership in this country.
 
The cards are definitely stacked against him. To use a football analogy, it's like having to beat the other team and the referees too.
 
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Is receiving from the liberal media.

Hell, Obama achieved absolutely nothing and was doing blow through college.

Carson is a brilliant surgeon and has been forthright on all levels.

We will never again have competent leadership in this country.

How can a brilliant surgeon disregard all logic and believe the pyramids were built to hold grain?
 
Yeah, I really don't think you can blame Carson's troubles on the "liberal" media, since every liberal in the country is hoping and praying that Carson will be the GOP nominee.

Plus, isn't it obvious that Carson is just being tested by "the adversary"? Sort of like Job before he built the pyramids. Or something.
 
That's a sign of poor character and personal weakness.

I'm not questioning that. Just said I understood the point of doing it. I do not understand how a brilliant man can claim the pyramids were built to hold grain.

And no, I'm not a democrat.
 
Is receiving from the liberal media.

Hell, Obama achieved absolutely nothing and was doing blow through college.

Carson is a brilliant surgeon and has been forthright on all levels.

We will never again have competent leadership in this country.

Forthright? You mean about being offered a "scholarship" to West Point by General William Westmoreland? (Hint: that's not how the appointment process works)

Or do you mean he's been forthright about his relationship with phony supplement company Mannatech? Last I heard, Dr. Ben denied he had anything to do with the company even though there is abundant video evidence of him shilling their products and claiming it cured his prostate cancer. Then there are the financial documents proving Dr. Ben was paid by the company and given a financial stake.

The thing is, Dr. Ben keeps shooting himself in the foot with nutty comments like the pyramids being built to store grain. It's just ignorant and embarrassing. The pyramids are practically solid structures that have about as much capacity as a hotel ballroom. Grain warehouses have to be hermetically sealed, something the pyramids were decidedly not.
 
Is receiving from the liberal media.

Hell, Obama achieved absolutely nothing and was doing blow through college.

Carson is a brilliant surgeon and has been forthright on all levels.

We will never again have competent leadership in this country.

Correction: Obama won election to the US Senate, and won two presidential elections. Ben Carson has accomplished nothing in politics.
 
He's surely not media's darling. Media for the most part and despite their self image of enlightened truth seekers, are nothing more than sniveling tattle tales. Their search for truth is never done, because they prefer to stir the cauldron of controversy and serve up that stench as entertainment. Sadly, most of us don't know enough or care enough to read past headline innuendo and bumper sticker philosophy. We the people do and always have gotten what we deserve, because we prefer to cast blame over achieving solutions. We roll over for entertainment, and we yawn in the face of truth and common sense. We generally suck at affecting our course. We much prefer someone else take care of things for us, then bitch at their taking more than their share. Screw us.
 
Carson is a horrible candidate. It is amazing he's at the top of the polls. He won't win of course because the guy is absolutely insane. You can be brilliant in one aspect of life and be a complete moron in the rest. Carson would have zero chance of winning the presidency. He has zero charisma, zero experience, zero plans of action and is absolutely terrible in debates. He's going to fade dramatically. Marco Rubio is going to win the republican nomination out of sheer process of elimination. Trump has peeked and his popularity has declined in recent weeks. He has carved out a niche in the republican base but he isn't going to get much more than that. Carson is an evangelical crazy person who will start to crash very soon. He might win Iowa but Iowa also went for Rick Santorum in 2012 and Huckabee in 2008. It's not real indicative of the rest of the country.

Jeb Bush is a mess even with all the money he has, Kasich and Christie are moderates but too far back in the polls, Ted Cruz is a teabagger who can't break out from his base and he is a completely unlikeable human being. Paul is too far back and Fiorina's popularity has waned since that 2nd debate. Once Jeb calls it quits all his donors will go to Rubio and Rubio will have too much cash. He also is young, latino, and has charisma. I don't agree with practically all of his policy plans but on the campaign trail you win with poetry and once you govern you govern with prose. Rubio will get the nod and if Kasich's campaign hasn't ruffled too many feathers he'll be the VP. He's a moderate who doesn't piss people off. He has governor experience and he is popular in a swing state that is a must have to win the election. He also could help get moderates to vote for Rubio, who has a lot of policies that fall far right.
 
Carson is a horrible candidate. It is amazing he's at the top of the polls. He won't win of course because the guy is absolutely insane. You can be brilliant in one aspect of life and be a complete moron in the rest. Carson would have zero chance of winning the presidency. He has zero charisma, zero experience, zero plans of action and is absolutely terrible in debates. He's going to fade dramatically. Marco Rubio is going to win the republican nomination out of sheer process of elimination. Trump has peeked and his popularity has declined in recent weeks. He has carved out a niche in the republican base but he isn't going to get much more than that. Carson is an evangelical crazy person who will start to crash very soon. He might win Iowa but Iowa also went for Rick Santorum in 2012 and Huckabee in 2008. It's not real indicative of the rest of the country.

Jeb Bush is a mess even with all the money he has, Kasich and Christie are moderates but too far back in the polls, Ted Cruz is a teabagger who can't break out from his base and he is a completely unlikeable human being. Paul is too far back and Fiorina's popularity has waned since that 2nd debate. Once Jeb calls it quits all his donors will go to Rubio and Rubio will have too much cash. He also is young, latino, and has charisma. I don't agree with practically all of his policy plans but on the campaign trail you win with poetry and once you govern you govern with prose. Rubio will get the nod and if Kasich's campaign hasn't ruffled too many feathers he'll be the VP. He's a moderate who doesn't piss people off. He has governor experience and he is popular in a swing state that is a must have to win the election. He also could help get moderates to vote for Rubio, who has a lot of policies that fall far right.

Good post. I agree with about all of it. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump isn't feeding the media. In other words, telling them where to look in Carson's past. He left him alone until Carson had a surge. You can't blame any particular network. Fox has been on him too. Joe S was this am.

His claim of media doing this to him, is a stretch, imo. It's always been this way and YES didn't matter who the candidate was. I believe Dems want him to continue and aren't behind it and Repubs are terrified. I know Bill Krystol is terrified of him OR Trump being the nominee. But he says they won't. "They won't allow that." I saw him say a few weeks ago. It's amazed me Jeb's sunk so low. He just did not know how to handle Trump. None of them did or does. But for me, Jeb putting 17 of W's war advisors on his team was enough not to consider him.
 
Forthright? You mean about being offered a "scholarship" to West Point by General William Westmoreland? (Hint: that's not how the appointment process works)

This particular 'witch hunt' parsing words is silly on the Media's part.

An ad in a 1991 issue of Black Enterprise magazine: "Each year about 1,400 young men and women take advantage of the opportunity to attend West Point on a full government scholarship, which includes tuition, room and board and medical care.

• An ad that appeared in a few issues of Ebony magazine in 1990: "You receive a full scholarship, earn a degree from one of the country’s finest colleges, and build a foundation for a challenging career of service to the nation."
 
This particular 'witch hunt' parsing words is silly on the Media's part.

An ad in a 1991 issue of Black Enterprise magazine: "Each year about 1,400 young men and women take advantage of the opportunity to attend West Point on a full government scholarship, which includes tuition, room and board and medical care.

• An ad that appeared in a few issues of Ebony magazine in 1990: "You receive a full scholarship, earn a degree from one of the country’s finest colleges, and build a foundation for a challenging career of service to the nation."

It's not parsing. The scholarship exists, but neither USMA nor the Army Chief of Staff have the authority to offer an APPOINTMENT to West Point. Potential appointees must undergo a competitive application process.
 
Running for President, better have your big boy pants on.

All candidates/politicians at that level receive scrutiny, Carson is just using the liberal media bias ploy to try and deflect the heat. If the only news one watches is Fox, then you will believe the scrutiny is due to the liberal media bias cause that is all they talk about other than Benghazi.
 
Running for President, better have your big boy pants on.

All candidates/politicians at that level receive scrutiny, Carson is just using the liberal media bias ploy to try and deflect the heat. If the only news one watches is Fox, then you will believe the scrutiny is due to the liberal media bias cause that is all they talk about other than Benghazi.
I have no problem with either Trump or Carson being the nominee. Both would be an improvement over the status quo. if the worst that can be said about a man is that he embellished his resume, I can overlook that. The man had an outstanding career as a neurosurgeon which requires more competence and brains than 99.9% of the people have. Also if memory serves me right, Hil has said a few things that embellish herself as well. Plus do the Dems want to make honesty a main issue given the candidate they are pushing. I would welcome that debate.
 
I have no problem with either Trump or Carson being the nominee. Both would be an improvement over the status quo. if the worst that can be said about a man is that he embellished his resume, I can overlook that. The man had an outstanding career as a neurosurgeon which requires more competence and brains than 99.9% of the people have. Also if memory serves me right, Hil has said a few things that embellish herself as well. Plus do the Dems want to make honesty a main issue given the candidate they are pushing. I would welcome that debate.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE a Trump-Carson GOP ticket. No matter who the Democrats select, the result will make historians and political scientists forget the landslides of 1936, 1964, and 1972. Trump and Carson would be lucky to outpoll George Wallace's votes in 1968.
 
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I would LOVE LOVE LOVE a Trump-Carson GOP ticket. No matter who the Democrats select, the result will make historians and political scientists forget the landslides of 1936, 1964, and 1972. Trump and Carson would be lucky to outpoll George Wallace's votes in 1968.
So you think a corrupt lying criminal or a perverted old socialist could beat a highly successful business man or a Brain surgeon ?

It says more about your character than it does anything else.
 
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Forthright? You mean about being offered a "scholarship" to West Point by General William Westmoreland? (Hint: that's not how the appointment process works)

Or do you mean he's been forthright about his relationship with phony supplement company Mannatech? Last I heard, Dr. Ben denied he had anything to do with the company even though there is abundant video evidence of him shilling their products and claiming it cured his prostate cancer. Then there are the financial documents proving Dr. Ben was paid by the company and given a financial stake.

The thing is, Dr. Ben keeps shooting himself in the foot with nutty comments like the pyramids being built to store grain. It's just ignorant and embarrassing. The pyramids are practically solid structures that have about as much capacity as a hotel ballroom. Grain warehouses have to be hermetically sealed, something the pyramids were decidedly not.

Um maybe since you only read left wing publications.....The Carson story has been discredited. Written by a guy much like yourself, and lying left wing moonbat.

If you don't like lying, then you're in trouble. Because on your side you only have liars to choose from, corupt, OLD criminal Perverted LIARS
 
Um maybe since you only read left wing publications.....The Carson story has been discredited. Written by a guy much like yourself, and lying left wing moonbat.

If you don't like lying, then you're in trouble. Because on your side you only have liars to choose from, corupt, OLD criminal Perverted LIARS

Your side consists of paragons of virtue? Try Googling "Republican sex scandal" some time. You might learn something. MIGHT.
 
Your side consists of paragons of virtue? Try Googling "Republican sex scandal" some time. You might learn something. MIGHT.
Pug if u really thought Trump or Carson would be a cakewalk why wouldn't u just shut up and let it happen.

· U have faux outrage about some incidents that Carson said happened 50 years ago. Even if he did embellish his story to make his book sell more, comparing him to the scandals of Hil is like comparing jaywalking to1st degree murder

· Hil has endangered national security with her email system, lied about it and obstructed justice?

She has accepted bribes of millions by foreign govts?

Hil was derelict in her duty by not responding to 600 requests for security and then lied about the deaths of 4 in Benghazi? When there is an emergency such as Benghazi, u learn the true character of people by how they react. She and Obama reacted with inaction and deceit.

When Hil left the White House in 2001, she said they were dead broke which was an attempt to show she identified with the lowly peons that vote for dems... She also talked about landing in Afghan ducking from sniper fire. She said she was named after Sir Edmond Hillary before he did anything famous.. Did she really say she tried to join the Marines while at the same time helping her husband dodge the draft. All lies embellishing her resume.
I would be concerned about a landslide victory by Hil. But Rubio and Jeb are not really that much different that hil especially on immigration... T
 
Pug if u really thought Trump or Carson would be a cakewalk why wouldn't u just shut up and let it happen. T

Yes, Pug. Why are you posting these things on Dawgchat and thereby ensuring that neither Trump or Carson will get the GOP nomination? Why? Are you being paid millions by foreign govts? Cause it's very, very bad to take the side of foreign govts against your own country (unless it's the Israeli government obviously, because Jesus or something).
 
Yes, Pug. Why are you posting these things on Dawgchat and thereby ensuring that neither Trump or Carson will get the GOP nomination? Why? Are you being paid millions by foreign govts? Cause it's very, very bad to take the side of foreign govts against your own country (unless it's the Israeli government obviously, because Jesus or something).

Oh I would LOVE a Trump-Carson GOP ticket. That would be like dropping a neutron bomb on the conservative movement. Not even the monkeys would be left to start all over again.
 
It's not parsing. The scholarship exists, but neither USMA nor the Army Chief of Staff have the authority to offer an APPOINTMENT to West Point. Potential appointees must undergo a competitive application process.

And like the media you're just being argumentative. Several appointees have been told in advance that it would be a slam dunk to get in if they applied. The roaches are scurrying away from this one, they'll have something else that's meaningless soon.
 
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