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John McCain dies.....

You Trumpers need to STFU, take a look at his family and see what it has given to our nation.

If you served (and I will admit I did not), you can say something, if not, don't say a goddamned negative thing.
I couldn't agree more. Calling someone a liberal or democrat is about the worst thing you can call them. :rolleyes:

In all seriousness, I respect the hell out of his service and I salute him. But I disagree with many of his political positions.
 
You Trumpers need to STFU, take a look at his family and see what it has given to our nation.

If you served (and I will admit I did not), you can say something, if not, don't say a goddamned negative thing.

I'm not going to say anything about him out of respect to his family and his service, but your outrage and always calling everyone that says something negative about one of your hero's a trumper is hilarious. Again you and your socialist buddies are the biggest hypocrites in the history of the world. I can show you a blithering multitude of nasty things said by you rat faced punks... You need to seek help,, you have anger and ignorance issues. Or, I guess you could go kill an innocent baby,,, that would make your hypocritical murdering America hating self feel better.
 
Benchwarmer, go get help please, an American hero passes away, and you bring killing babies into the discussion.

You really need help, go find it.
DF, you’re a great guy and I like you. Obviously, a lot of people have really strong feelings about that, including me. I wish you would reconsider. And I think McCain became anti-american in later life. There certainly are worse people out there.
 
Deadduck, I disagree with you on just about everything, but I think you are a great person who loves America and wants what is best for our country.

Abortion is a very sensitive issue, one of my heros, Neil Boortz, refused to discuss it on his show. I actually see how one can have the other side of this issue.

Where I have a problem is whenever one disagrees with Benchwarmer on any issue whatsoever, he calls you a baby killer. That is totally out of line and disrespectful.

You are better than that my friend.
 
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Deadduck, I disagree with you on just about everything, but I think you are a great person who loves America and wants what is best for our country.

Abortion is a very sensitive issue, one of my heros, Neil Boortz, refused to discuss it on his show. I actually see how one can have the other side of this issue.

Where I have a problem is whenever one disagrees with Benchwarmer on any issue whatsoever, he calls you a baby killer. That is totally out of line and disrespectful.

You are better than that my friend.
Bench is one of my favorite people, so I’ll leave this alone. I think it’s great, really great, that you’ve been married for 38 years. I have only been married once, for 20 years, but we had a 12 year courtship. I like the concept of mating for life, like geese. It’s stabilizing, sort of a cultural bedrock. I’m very happy that way, although sometimes I’d like to strangle her, grill a couple hotdogs and watch a ballgame.
 
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Trust me, I totally outkicked my coverage, so being married for that long is a total no-brainer.

Calling it a night, have a good one, will be back at it tomorrow.
 
No he was not. He sold out his brother prisoners in Vietnam.. May have caused the firestorm on the Forrestal and was a worthless pilot.. He was a terrible politician who was corrupt to the bone... Good riddance...
I hope you were there, if so, thanks for your service. If not, I feel for you. We will agree to disagree.
 
I know its wrong to speak ill of the recently departed, so I'll just say note that it seems Democrats have had more good thing to say about McCain than Republicans, going back to at least the last Bush administration.
Interesting take considering Republicans made him their nominee after the last Bush administration. Really shows how screwed up they are too.

Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same crazy coin.
 
Interesting take considering Republicans made him their nominee after the last Bush administration. Really shows how screwed up they are too.

Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same crazy coin.

How did McCain lose the 2008 Presidential Election. The Dems seem to feel he is the greatest American of the last century.
 
You Trumpers need to STFU, take a look at his family and see what it has given to our nation.

If you served (and I will admit I did not), you can say something, if not, don't say a goddamned negative thing.

Since I did serve, I appreciate your permission to speak sir.
John McCain was a POW, squealed, signed a letter for the NVA and according to men who were there, received special benefits. I am not criticizing McCain for any of it. I don't know that I would not have broken under the circumstances. No man does. But it is hard for me to bestow the title of War Hero to him.
I lost the best friend I ever had because we were getting raked and he was not allowed to go out with us originally because he was on restricted duty for illness and only had 9 days to do. But he jumped on a medevac skid and went into a hot LZ to try to help. You figure out who's a War Hero.
I won't get into his political career since it was so obviously a prolonged exercise in self promotion...the only guy I've ever seen jump in front of more cameras than Al Sharpton.
 
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Interesting take considering Republicans made him their nominee after the last Bush administration. Really shows how screwed up they are too.

Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same crazy coin.
The Republicans have a nasty habit of putting up for the Presidency the person "Whose Turn" it is. Its was McCains' turn in 2008, Romneys turn in 2012, and íJeb!'s turn in 2016...until Trump messed up their plans.
 
I'm not qualified to speak on McCains' military service, others are vastly more qualified, and they have some very strong opinions on what McCain did in Vietnam.
Politically, however, I can state that it was McCain's carefully crafted brand as a politician to loudly and publicly break away from "his" party at crucial moments and give the Democrats what they couldn't achieve by themselves. If there was a bus, and it was going to hit either a Democrat or a Republican , and it was up to McCain to save one or the other, lets just say I wouldn't feel to good if I were the Republican, especially if the Network News had a camera documenting the whole thing.
 
Benchwarmer, go get help please, an American hero passes away, and you bring killing babies into the discussion.

You really need help, go find it.

Why are you so sensitive, you popped off a few weeks ago about how us old white guys should shut up about one of your favorite rights. The right to kill babies. Makes you a strong supporter of killing babies in my book.. God will take care of you and those that believe murdering an innocent is correct and acceptable behavior. Not only do you and your dimwit buddies on here push and glorify baby killing, you expect me to pay taxes to help you accomplish it.

I talked about your hatful anti Trumper rift to start your post. That's your mantra. You are obviously upset at the passing of Sen McCain. I was trying to comfort you. You feel very strongly about killing babies. You got angry when someone talked bad about planned parenthood and the right to kill babies.

If you are so touchy and can't defend your ignorant positions stop posting. I actually gave you a chance to have me stop responding to your post with 4 yes or no questions. YOU can't even answer the questions to keep me off of your back.
 
Why are you so sensitive, you popped off a few weeks ago about how us old white guys should shut up about one of your favorite rights. The right to kill babies. Makes you a strong supporter of killing babies in my book.. God will take care of you and those that believe murdering an innocent is correct and acceptable behavior. Not only do you and your dimwit buddies on here push and glorify baby killing, you expect me to pay taxes to help you accomplish it.

I talked about your hatful anti Trumper rift to start your post. That's your mantra. You are obviously upset at the passing of Sen McCain. I was trying to comfort you. You feel very strongly about killing babies. You got angry when someone talked bad about planned parenthood and the right to kill babies.

If you are so touchy and can't defend your ignorant positions stop posting. I actually gave you a chance to have me stop responding to your post with 4 yes or no questions. YOU can't even answer the questions to keep me off of your back.
Roe Vs. Wade is one of the most damning things this nation is being judged for in God's eyes. How many millions of innocent children have been MURDERED by this decision?? The same people that will kill an innocent fetus will stand up and fight for the life of a convicted murderer. Makes no damn sense to me, but then again I use logic and reasoning.
 
The man was a war hero. Stick politics up your a**. If you ain't give what he has, STFU.
Oh bullshit. He was a political hack from the time he was old enough to piss on his own. He was a corrupt, lying POS. He was the poster child for what's wrong in DC and the Country. They man ran on repealing obamacare...then when the time comes he waited making sure he was the deciding vote....Then in grand order walked up and gave a thumbs down. Condolences to his family. But my opinion remains the same, no point in changing it because the dirtbag died. At least he'll be reunited with his good buddy Ted Kennedy who is paying the price for being a murderer
 
Oh bullshit. He was a political hack from the time he was old enough to piss on his own. He was a corrupt, lying POS. He was the poster child for what's wrong in DC and the Country. They man ran on repealing obamacare...then when the time comes he waited making sure he was the deciding vote....Then in grand order walked up and gave a thumbs down. Condolences to his family. But my opinion remains the same, no point in changing it because the dirtbag died. At least he'll be reunited with his good buddy Ted Kennedy who is paying the price for being a murderer
and a good day to you too. stay classy.
 
I know its wrong to speak ill of the recently departed, so I'll just say note that it seems Democrats have had more good thing to say about McCain than Republicans, going back to at least the last Bush administration.
Dems love to say good things about rival politicians that they beat (Obama beat McCain in the '08 Presidential race), and don't forget that McCain cast THE deciding vote in the Senate that prevented the repeal of Obamacare, Obama's singular legislative achievement in his 8 years in office. On the other hand, when the rival party is objecting to what you are doing, you are probably doing something right!!
 
Glad he made the decision to end it .Die with dignity , something we all probably want,. The accolades are certainly right for his supporters to give but his detractors all have their rights too . Timing is everything-- let it go for a couple of weeks. If they take Russell's name off the Bldg for McCain ,that is going a little overboard . I'll weigh in if that happens. Its enough recognition for his supporters that he singularly kept Obama-care alive. Thats unfortunately his legacy. !!!
 
Deadduck, I disagree with you on just about everything, but I think you are a great person who loves America and wants what is best for our country.C

Abortion is a very sensitive issue, one of my heros, Neil Boortz, refused to discuss it on his show. I actually see how one can have the other side of this issue.

Where I have a problem is whenever one disagrees with Benchwarmer on any issue whatsoever, he calls you a baby killer. That is totally out of line and disrespectful.

You are better than that my friend.

Boortz was pro choice and pro gay rights. Other than that a true Conservative. I listened to him back to the mid 1970,s on Wrng radio.
 
I have a lot of Jewish friends who would beg to differ with you.

The path to salvation is judged on how a person lives his/her own life.
Many Christians, including me, believe our Jewish friends are in the hands of God and will come to Christ at the proper time. Many also believe the conversion is laid out in the New Testament (Romans 11), although some scholars dispute that, and it will occur in the end of this age. Many good Christians leave these questions in God's hands.

Also, you better hope you're right, and Christians are wrong, about the path to salvation.
 
I have a lot of Jewish friends who would beg to differ with you.

The path to salvation is judged on how a person lives his/her own life.
Jesus died for the Jewish people as well, he was not exclusive to any race or creed. THe Jewish people will have the veil lifted before the end times so they can accept Jesus as their savior.
 
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He served. Fine I can respect that. He was a POW. Ok. I hate that. BUT.......

He was also a self-serving a$$hole. He used his status for political gain as much as anyone ever has. Say what you will but he got extremely wealthy on a $174k/per year job???!!!! I have never liked him because he was simply one of the swamp that used his status to make him seem reverent. F' him. I hate cancer, wouldn't wish it on anyone but I won't miss him. His true character was shown on his thumb down vote on Obamacare repeal. He campaigned on getting rid of Obamacare for years. Spoke of the repeal every instance he could on TV. He voted it down because Trump supported it and he hated Trump. He got Trump back for speaking ill of him and his service. McCock said he just wanted bi-partisanship. What a joke. It was personal. Thanks a$$hole for making my expenses more.

F' him.
 
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Same difference then. Juan McCain is going to hell regardless one's religion...

The one thing that has stood out to me is the fact that McCain could not let go of his hatred of Trump. The mark of a good, humble man is the ability to forgive. Granted Trump said some pretty nasty things about him that probably hit him to his core, but you would think that a dying man would want to leave this world with no regrets or enemies. Just makes me wonder about him moral make up.
 
The one thing that has stood out to me is the fact that McCain could not let go of his hatred of Trump. The mark of a good, humble man is the ability to forgive. Granted Trump said some pretty nasty things about him that probably hit him to his core, but you would think that a dying man would want to leave this world with no regrets or enemies. Just makes me wonder about him moral make up.
Do you have the same musings about Trumps moral makeup? Seeing that he belittled a POW and a dying man in his last days?
 
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