I’m sure this is a good post and I appreciate your reply (seriously) but I’ll have to read it after G Day as I’m a couple beers deep.
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Lol @ Dems
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Comey is in this thing up to his neck as well. He's just a sneaky SOB that is better at covering his tracks. If he wasn't involved, he would have told Trump the complete truth about the dossier and worked with Trump to quash the story.
I'm not a tin foil hat guy but evidence and timelines put Clapper, Brennan and Comey at the heart of what appears to be a conspiracy to interfere in the election and damage or remove a duly elected POTUS.
Remember, in June of 16 a FISA request was turned down. In October another FISA request was submitted to monitor a server in Trump Tower for connections to Russian banks. No evidence is found but the warrant is reissued. Trump was elected in early Nov and on Nov 17 Mike Rogers, without the knowledge of Clapper travels to Trump tower and reportedly tipped him off about the FISA warrant and surveillance which means he probably informed the Trump team of the dossier and how it was used. On Nov 18 the WAPO reports that high level intel and Pentagon officials have recommended the firing of Rogers.
We're getting into spy novel stuff here but when Comey showed up in Jan to brief DJT at the request of Clapper, Trump likely knew the complete version of what was in the dossier and how it was used. In all likelihood, Trump knew immediately what Comey was trying to pull off and didn't bite while allowing Comey to grab as much rope as he would take. Comey now states he took notes because he didn't trust Trump but never memorialized his meeting with O. We'll see in the next few weeks if after being tipped off about a trap by Rogers if Trump set his own for the participants of a coup.
I’m sure this is a good post and I appreciate your reply (seriously) but I’ll have to read it after G Day as I’m a couple beers deep.
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I may have missed it, but I haven't seen you answer the question regarding what is the point of it all. Just go on about how it's not part of the Trump witch hunt.
Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page and McCabe will be exposed as participants in a scheme to defeat Donald Trump using the materials, resources and facilities of the US government while working with the democRAT party to coordinate the bogus dossier. Those 5 knew it was being made and they knew why plus they used it to get FISA warrants without telling the court the truth about what the dossier really was.That is a huge deal.
So far, I have not been able to tie Comey to that plot given the evidence presently in the public realm. He might be involved, but if he was, why would McCabe keep him in the dark for a full month after learning about the Weiner laptop emails from Strzok. If Comey was part of it, it seems to me that McCabe would have immediately been brainstorming with him about how to handle it.
I said about 3 times in this thread what the point was. It was (a) to investigate Russian interference and (b) to determine whether any Americans assisted in that interference. I’m sure you already knew that in spite of what dear leader tells you.
Dear leader? I don't give a shit Trump is POTUS. What I do care about is my tax dollars being wasted by what seems to be a witch hunt because of butthurt Democrats. Again, what is the point? What evidence suggests interference? Unproven "hacking"? GTFO. DNC was stupid enough to have an Email server in a closet. Guess what? The Russians are not the only ones who had access to those E-mails. Any kid with a keyboard could get to that server. So what will be the outcome of this BS investigation? A whole lot of nothing, that's what. That's my issue.
1. Those who believe this investigation should continue are probably America haters who want us to fail.
2. I would have boinked Stormy. What is wrong with the people who hold it against Trump? Maybe they boinking some dog?
3. There is acongressional slush fund to pay off whores screwed by democrats. So, why can’t Trump pay off whores he screwed?
4. F*** Hillary.
Why can't we all screw whores on govt money?
Yeah. It’s like their private health care bullshit. We have to hide our whores from our wives, get our lawyers to mortgage their house to shut them up. We can’t just kill them like the shitball democrat Kennedys, shove some suppository bomb up their asses. The congressional fund for whore STFU is no joke, it really exists. The Teddy Kennedy Silence A Whore Memorial Trust Fund. Also the Wilbur Mills Tidal Basin Bombshell GagaSlut Democrat Slush Account. No shit.
What truth? Why can’t people support POTUS regardless who sits in the Oval Office? What choice did anyone have in Nov 2016? I don’t understand your point.
If you were a conservative, you'd have better sense than to say something that stupid.
All I know is what I see.
If I’m a defense attorney for US defendants facing charges out of Meullers investigation I’m getting a better case daily.
You have the director of the FBI leaking classified information to purposefully spark a special counsel investigation. This information supposedly showed obstruction of justice, many people express that these memos actually show the opposite of obstruction. This same director is now under recommendations for charges by congressional committee & recommendations for investigation by the OIG.
Deputy director fully under investigation and recommendations of charges by the OIG.
Then you have THE point man in origin of the investigations in Strzok. In just a small sampling of texts there's a blatant bias and open discussion of implementing an "insurance policy" as discussed in "Andy's office" as they lament their shock and displeasure that DJT was elected.
In texts it's also proven that Strzok had a relationship with the judge who presided over the initial Flynn case. Strzok and Page openly discuss how they could set up a meeting with this judge in a public setting so as to not arouse suspicions. This judge has since been recused from that case and a new judge placed. The new judge has ordered that Mueller hand over all of his evidence to the Flynn team and court for review. Mueller delayed any sentencing of Flynn.
Strzok was removed from Mueller's investigation along with Page after their bias was pointed out by the OIG, but not before they were actively involved in the investigation.
Above is what we know.
We'll know much more soon.
If I’m a defense attorney for US defendants facing charges out of Meullers investigation I’m getting a better case daily.
You have the director of the FBI leaking classified information to purposefully spark a special counsel investigation. This information supposedly showed obstruction of justice, many people express that these memos actually show the opposite of obstruction. This same director is now under recommendations for charges by congressional committee & recommendations for investigation by the OIG.
Deputy director fully under investigation and recommendations of charges by the OIG.
Then you have THE point man in origin of the investigations in Strzok. In just a small sampling of texts there's a blatant bias and open discussion of implementing an "insurance policy" as discussed in "Andy's office" as they lament their shock and displeasure that DJT was elected.
In texts it's also proven that Strzok had a relationship with the judge who presided over the initial Flynn case. Strzok and Page openly discuss how they could set up a meeting with this judge in a public setting so as to not arouse suspicions. This judge has since been recused from that case and a new judge placed. The new judge has ordered that Mueller hand over all of his evidence to the Flynn team and court for review. Mueller delayed any sentencing of Flynn.
Strzok was removed from Mueller's investigation along with Page after their bias was pointed out by the OIG, but not before they were actively involved in the investigation.
Above is what we know.
We'll know much more soon.
We know more than that.
We know Strzok, Page, McCabe and others not yet named used the facilities and resources of the US government (FBI) to attempt to keep a candidate from being elected. That is a CRIME.
We know Strzok and McCabe were "not candid" with the FISA court in using a document (the dossier) to obtain FISA warrants. That is a CRIME.
We know McCabe and Comey both leaked confidential information. That is a CRIME.
We know Comey took the memos which were 1) confidential & 2) belonged to the FBI not him. That is a CRIME.
We know Hillary Clinton exposed Top Secret and even SAT information to hostile actors through negligence. That is a CRIME.
We know a lot more also. But, I'll stop there for now.
We know Strzok, Page, McCabe and others not yet named used the facilities and resources of the US government (FBI) to attempt to keep a candidate from being elected. That is a CRIME.
We know Strzok and McCabe were "not candid" with the FISA court in using a document (the dossier) to obtain FISA warrants. That is a CRIME.
We know McCabe and Comey both leaked confidential information. That is a CRIME.
We know Comey took the memos which were 1) confidential & 2) belonged to the FBI not him. That is a CRIME.
We know Hillary Clinton exposed Top Secret and even SAT information to hostile actors through negligence. That is a CRIME.
We know a lot more also. But, I'll stop there for now.
It's a smart move, civil suits have a lower thresh hold of proof than criminal cases.
There may well be a winnable case.
There may well be a winnable case.
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Here’s a good read on what Stealth Jeff has been doing behind the scenes. It’s amazing the scope & scale of the investigations going on.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/heres-jeff-sessions-might-playing-4-d-chess/
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/heres-jeff-sessions-might-playing-4-d-chess/
Ignorance? Actually, I think most Trump voters are very well informed and actually see an elected leader working to accomplish the things Cons have been campaigning on for yrs but refusing to fight for once in office.
Yes, we understand DJT is most likely a poor husband in a traditional sense but he has stood strong in his promotion of Judeo-Christian values. His one appointment to the SCOTUS was virtually universally supported by Cons. He's rooting out criminal aliens, fighting for a wall and advocates screening of legal immigrants. He's managed to overhaul the tax code and abolished the ACA mandate EVEN though a supposed righteous conservative gave the thumbs down to a complete repeal. AND he's lowering unemployment and welfare rolls across the board. Yeah, sure, cons should want him thrown out so scumbags like Biden and McConnell can continue selling out America from the pius perches.
We had no option. It was support Hillary or support Trump. As a conservative,voting 3rd party is like throwing your vote in the toilet. Please explain how Hillary would have been a better option than Trump.
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Until the defendants exercise discovery, then the SHTF for the dims.
At this point, if anyone could say Hillary would have been a better option, they’re in need of mental health.
As a middle of the roader who doesn't care for either party, I saw it as a slim or slimmer choice. I went with Hillary, but I understand why people went with Trump. Trump is a good salesman, and Hilary does not inspire people to vote for her. I was hoping Kasich would get the nomination and I would have definitely voted for him. After the election, I was hoping Trump would be better than I expected, but so far, he has been mostly a disappointment (mainly due to the daily drama coming out of the Whitehouse). If Hilary had been elected, it is hard to say how well she would have done, especially with a Republican controlled congress. Bottom line is, I think we were screwed either way. Sadly, I've come to realize that it is virtually impossible to elect a president that will unite and effectively lead this country.
“Mostly a disappointment “ how in the hell can you say that?
This is nuts. You obviously don't pay attention. The country is rocking again and the economy is doing far better under Trump. He is fighting for THIS country. Something we have not seen since Reagan.
