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Saying a racist comment about another race is much worse than saying one about your own
that's not a double standard, that's how racism works
I think Rice needs to watch the first game from his couch in Athens. Show a little respect for people. What would he think or do if I said the same thing about him? He would go crazy!
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People make mistakes and this was definitely a big error in judgement. The issue has been appropriately addressed. Let's move on.
These guys could care less about the heritage and history of the university. They’re using it as a vehicle to better themselves. Most could care less about the other because once they’re “used” there is another player in line that the fans will follow and love. I know are appreciative of the opportunity the university gave them but most see it as a way out. If not UGA, the UF or Bama, etcThe problem with the original post was the derogatory name he attached to it. That's bad enough. The problem with this statement is that Monty doesn't seem to understand that the "Bs" that he is speaking up against was another human being expressing his opinion - which he has every right to do. Add in the fact that that other human being happens to be a living legend for the school / program that he plays for and it's just not a good look for him.
I've said it on this forum but it's even MORE important in the public forum of social media, you can disagree without being disagreeable. There's no need to be disrespectful just because someone holds a different opinion than yours.
People make mistakes and this was definitely a big error in judgement. The issue has been appropriately addressed. Let's move on.
Does this have to do with the HW post?
I agreed with you saying you’re entitled to say what you want! You’re just not immune to the consequences of it. Wow. How much more plainly can I say that? You didn’t blatantly say “he’s right” but you’re trying to justify it by saying it was a person of color to another person of color, with that second person of color being a famous athlete. Just stop. It’s wrong no matter who says it. Whether it’s Herschel or not.And what part of being entitled to say whatever you want are you incapable of grasping? Show me where I’ve said he’s right for saying what he said? People are bent out of shape because it was towards Herschel. Point blank period.
we are very fortunate to have Kirby Smart running our program rather than the total clown show here that wants to bench Monty
I agreed with you saying you’re entitled to say what you want! You’re just not immune to the consequences of it. Wow. How much more plainly can I say that? You didn’t blatantly say “he’s right” but you’re trying to justify it by saying it was a person of color to another person of color, with that second person of color being a famous athlete. Just stop. It’s wrong no matter who says it. Whether it’s Herschel or not.
Agreed.People make mistakes and this was definitely a big error in judgement. The issue has been appropriately addressed. Let's move on.
Monty believes he can say whatever he wants and not have anyone question him even when he does something that disrespectful.
And I get emails all the time complaining we don't let folks talk enough politics. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. The Chat can be and usually is a good place. The bad actors are being cast out and will continue to be.
I don’t understand. If Herschel is allowed to speak his political views then why are these players not afforded the same right. Could it be you just agree with Herschel’s viewpoint and not the players?
I haven’t seen monty’s comments I saw 2 others commenting on A Notre Dame tweetit's remarkable that some of you are so surprised and disappointed that a team with a high population of young black men would care deeply about issues that impact young black men
you'd think maybe people here would step back and ask our players why they think these issues are important to them
Monty may have misspoken and can learn from that mistake. But saying that the other political tweets by our players is disappointing is exactly what Monty's latest post is about and is exactly why so many players are supporting him.
it's remarkable that some of you are so surprised and disappointed that a team with a high population of young black men would care deeply about issues that impact young black men
you'd think maybe people here would step back and ask our players why they think these issues are important to them
Monty may have misspoken and can learn from that mistake. But saying that the other political tweets by our players is disappointing is exactly what Monty's latest post is about and is exactly why so many players are supporting him.
I haven't read any of the tweets, what issues did Monty bring up?
primarily police reform and justice issues recently
This x’s 1000 ....the Democrats have hurt African Americans fat more than the republicans .....Jesus just look at majority of dem ran cities ...that’s where the most significant problems lie"That community" saw the lowest unemployment rates among them (pre-COVID) than ever before. I'm not following you.
What is hurtful about progress?
you got a link or something
He's not getting backlash for any political viewpoint or speaking out - he's getting backlash for posting a screenshot of Herschel speaking at the RNC with a banner of a racial slur above it (presumably because he takes issue with HW speaking about his own political viewpoint - how ironic).
Monty needs to grow up. He's getting a lesson in being an adult in the real world right now, so maybe he will.
you got a link or something
you got a link or something
welcome to adulthood, Monty. this is the world that you now live in. anyone that disagrees with your opinion is free to try to destroy you.....
Does this have to do with the HW post?
A buddy of mine said he wishes Kirby would have HW come speak very soon.Time to call in Herschel and ask any players who have a problem with him to say it to his face. Would be a tremendous learning experience.
WhattaboutI understand Monty's point completely and it's a fair point....but what about the "Bs" in Chicago every weekend? When will an athlete speak up on that? Or will they only take to twitter when a black man is shot for disobeying police?
(This isn't an endorsement of the cops shooting him 7 times, but if he obeyed he wouldn't have been shot seven times, likely not even one time.)
If you were blacklisted you would not be making a postAm I blacklisted. I did not use any bad words!
Unless he's used a different forum or something he hasn't tweeted about police reform or social justice issues. His tweet said,
"When we agreed with them on playing it was no problem for us to speak up, but when we speak up on this Bs going on it’s shut up and tackle!"
When he says "this Bs" in response to his original tweet calling Herschel a derogatory name, he's saying, imo, it's BS that Herschel is speaking at the RNC. That's not exactly a social justice statement.
The team has been tweeting about this stuff all summer. Tons of examples of what players have been tweeting and the negative reaction from fans. Lecounte had a tweet about the ND BLM tweet that a few guys were reacting to as well.
When a player uses social media to say they want to play, people here are posting those tweets and encouraging them to use their platform. When a player uses social media to speak about political issues, people attack them and say they should focus on football.
People make mistakes and this was definitely a big error in judgement. The issue has been appropriately addressed. Let's move on.
Welcome to adulthood? Why did he have to put his first post up with the derogatory remark about Herschel ? Because he doesn’t agree with Herschel? Bit of advice along the same lines as the whole adulthood thing .....if you are going to post something negative about a beloved public figure ( at least to our fan base) you better put your adult pants on and take the heat ....why would it be ok for him to post negatives about Herschel yet people can’t post negatives in response to his post? Yeah your right that is adulthood .....like if I posted something negative about Obama .....I better get my adult pants on and be ready for those who admire him to come at me full force - or Clinton, etc. I guess mobs surrounding people eating dinner on outside patios cursing the patrons out because they aren’t participating in their protest ....I guess that’s adulthood too?welcome to adulthood, Monty. this is the world that you now live in. anyone that disagrees with your opinion is free to try to destroy you.....
His tweet is still up so clearly it hasn’t been addressed.
you misread me - i completely agree with you....Welcome to adulthood? Why did he have to put his first post up with the derogatory remark about Herschel ? Because he doesn’t agree with Herschel? Bit of advice along the same lines as the whole adulthood thing .....if you are going to post something negative about a beloved public figure ( at least to our fan base) you better put your adult pants on and take the heat ....why would it be ok for him to post negatives about Herschel yet people can’t post negatives in response to his post? Yeah your right that is adulthood .....like if I posted something negative about Obama .....I better get my adult pants on and be ready for those who admire him to come at me full force - or Clinton, etc. I guess mobs surrounding people eating dinner on outside patios cursing the patrons out because they aren’t participating in their protest ....I guess that’s adulthood too?
You’re making ignorant assumptions and obviously have serious reading comp skills, as I’ve never said I was triggered a day in my life. It’s wrong that he said it to Herschel, just like it’d be wrong if he said it to you. Don’t know how much more simple you need me to make it. I know I won’t convince you otherwise, that’s the thing about ignorance.Buddy, you did say you were triggered by what he said to Herschel. That’s literally all I’m saying here. If he said that word towards another former player whom you didn’t like, you wouldn’t say a word about it. You can argue with me until you’re blue in the face, but you’ll never convince otherwise. I see it happen time and time again. You are upset that he said something towards Herschel. That’s it!
Ok - I’m sorry - I just quickly glanced at your post and misinterpreted ityou misread me - i completely agree with you....
this is the culture that the radical left has pushed for,, and soon whatever decorum/tolerance for diverse views the right used to exhibit will go away too..
getting attacked for diversity of thought suddenly aint so fun, when its your thought getting attacked!
No worries brother - you and I believe that people can clear things up with talking. No cancelling here.. I guess we aren’t woke enoughOk - I’m sorry - I just quickly glanced at your post and misinterpreted it
Go cry about your poster bro elsewhereYou’re making ignorant assumptions and obviously have serious reading comp skills, as I’ve never said I was triggered a day in my life. It’s wrong that he said it to Herschel, just like it’d be wrong if he said it to you. Don’t know how much more simple you need me to make it. I know I won’t convince you otherwise, that’s the thing about ignorance.
I think you meant to say all these things about Joe Biden, not Donald Trump. Biden was against all these things and is the true racist.