My father was a federal employee for 34 years.

[JackRussellDawg]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

 

[MillDawg]

your Dad is part of the generation that made this country great. God Bless!

 

[TivoliDawg]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

What is being uncovered by DOGE, in your mind?

Your dad sounds like a heck of a man.

 

[JackRussellDawg]

What is being uncovered by DOGE, in your mind?

Your dad sounds like a heck of a man.

Waste, fraud, and abuse on a grand scale, except it’s not in my mind.

 

[Eastmandawg]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

“And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.”


Of course he wouldn’t and he would probably do it with pride. It’s a chance for those being asked to shine. The ones not wanting to do it most likely have reasons not wanting to - and they are probably not good ones.

Appreciate the story, I am sure you are proud of your Dad, I certainly would be.

 

[litedawg1968]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

Fellow Savannahian here, I remember those lights on White Bluff like I saw them yesterday. I don’t remember the thing on the Back River but maybe I was too young for that.

 

[TivoliDawg]

Waste, fraud, and abuse on a grand scale, except it’s not in my mind.

Waste I’ll agree with. But I’m not aware of any fraud.

 

[KirbyIsMyDog]

Considering fraud is a crime, you’d expect DOGE to be turning over evidence to the DOJ for prosecution, but…that hasn’t happened…zero fraud found

 

[Papapete11]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

This is absolute GOLD my Friend. Preach it!!

 

[bubbab]

What is being uncovered by DOGE, in your mind?

Your dad sounds like a heck of a man.

Agree. Where's the beef Musk? All fluff but no proof. $8 billion waste, oh I meant $8 million. Your dad sounds like someone who would want a Constitutional evaluation of the various government agencies, not what Musk/Trump is doing.

 

[dawgspecific]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

Amen brother, your dad sounded like a great man!!

 

[MCinATL]

Agree. Where's the beef Musk? All fluff but no proof. $8 billion waste, oh I meant $8 million. Your dad sounds like someone who would want a Constitutional evaluation of the various government agencies, not what Musk/Trump is doing.

which part of the constitution covers evaluations? Can evaluations only be conducted by an elected official?

If a hired, non- elected manager in USAID were to evaluate funding a drag show in Chile, and chose to eliminate it, would that be constitutional in your mind? If the DOD contractor determine that paying $7500 for a toilet seat in DoD was wasteful, would that contractor have the ability to eliminate that purchase.

When Jigar Shah, a DOE appointee from the private sector, determined that First Solar should get a multi-hundred million DOE loan to build a factory in India, was that constitutional?

Just want to understand where the demarcation point on constitutional is for you?

 

[lsudawg]

As a university plant breeder I have numerous USDA research counterparts. I assure you the firings are not based on waste or merit. The scientists hired in the past two years are being fired with no cause. They’re bright, young, and motivated people who did nothing wrong. Your environment, food cost and agricultural competitiveness has been evicerated and the impacts will be long and painful. A bunch of 25 year old computer jocks are doing the damage with no concept of what they are eliminating. It’s stupid. I am quite conservative politically.

 

[UGA-FAN 49]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

Salute to your Dad, sounds like a great person and employee. I retired DOD, 41 years and i had no problem being held accountable for my work, thats one of the many problems today, folks dont want to be held accountable. Yes, we had a certain amount of employees that busted their tail to get the work done and we had a lot that wouldn't do anything but sit back and do nothing and those were the ones who got all the awards. The waste and fraud just didnt start its been going on for years. Glad Trump is dropping the hammar on those who need it.

 

[rdixon1]

I think we all know our government is corrupt af. 200k salaries and then then they have 100 million net worth. I like what they are doing at the FBI but eventually someone has to be held accountable. You have to put people in jail. Elon can find 1 trillion in waste and fraud but someone has to go to jail. When will someone be held accountable for Covid? Politicians do whatever they want because no one ever goes down.

 

[rjpdawg11]

I think we all know our government is corrupt af. 200k salaries and then then they have 100 million net worth. I like what they are doing at the FBI but eventually someone has to be held accountable. You have to put people in jail. Elon can find 1 trillion in waste and fraud but someone has to go to jail. When will someone be held accountable for Covid? Politicians do whatever they want because no one ever goes down.

Remember COVID came about under the Trump administration. So yeah go ahead and hold him accountable

 

[Eastmandawg]

I think we all know our government is corrupt af. 200k salaries and then then they have 100 million net worth. I like what they are doing at the FBI but eventually someone has to be held accountable. You have to put people in jail. Elon can find 1 trillion in waste and fraud but someone has to go to jail. When will someone be held accountable for Covid? Politicians do whatever they want because no one ever goes down.

Agree….but leave Trump alone for now, he’s more useful in office than behind bars.

 

[litedawg1968]

Remember COVID came about under the Trump administration. So yeah go ahead and hold him accountable

Yes you nailed it. Trump created Covid in his secret lab at Mar a Lago.

Holy sht what a stupid post.

 

[rdixon1]

Yes you nailed it. Trump created Covid in his secret lab at Mar a Lago.

Holy sht what a stupid post.

He hasn’t realized the United States help fund Covid. Probably praises Fauci when he should be in jail

 

[BlessedDawg]

Waste I’ll agree with. But I’m not aware of any fraud.

It’s been a month, I figure that there are investigations just starting looking at these huge contracts and waste going to foreign countries. To this point, waste for sure but it’s too early to say definitively that there is no fraud. With the kind of silly money just being tossed around you figure there are a few greedy folks that looked for a quick personal gain. I might be wrong but I’d almost bet the money in my pocket (not much) that the DOJ will announce something on the fraud part in the first quarter of this year.

 

[HarryDawg'95]

Folks just like your father have been indiscriminately fired because Musk/Trump believe government employees are inherently lazy.

 

[LRA Dawg]

Sounds like a great man and a great father. My dad was a great Federal employee too.

How do you think he would feel about his co workers being fired simply for being in a newer position less than two years and getting a dismissal letter stating it was for poor performance? If our fathers were within two years of being promoted, that would have been their fate.

My dad understands the need for controlled spending and eliminating waste, but sh!tting on good people is not the way to do it.

 

[ABODawgsNBlack20]

Waste I’ll agree with. But I’m not aware of any fraud.

I read of Doctors, Pharmacists, city planners, city accountants, mayors, senators and many other professions committing fraud in various ways. But somehow you don’t think that government workers don’t commit fraud. Just because you haven’t had proof of fraud doesn’t mean it’s not there. I consider sending funds to other countries for trans policies fraud.

 

[clrushton1]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

He sounds like a hell of a man and someone you should be proud of.

I’ll say one thing though, he might not have been given the chance to come up with 5 bullet points as he could have been one of the ones already indiscriminately fired. And while he would know, and you would know, that he was a hell of a worker, many out there would be cheering his firing because he was “waste”.

Just food for thought.

 

[MRDAWG]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

Why didn't Trump do anything about this four years ago? Did it just come up during last four years?

 

[TivoliDawg]

I read of Doctors, Pharmacists, city planners, city accountants, mayors, senators and many other professions committing fraud in various ways. But somehow you don’t think that government workers don’t commit fraud. Just because you haven’t had proof of fraud doesn’t mean it’s not there. I consider sending funds to other countries for trans policies fraud.

If you, or Elon, or anyone have proof of fraud, feel free to post it here.

 

[ugaboz]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

right on brother

 

[LakesiteDawg]

As a university plant breeder I have numerous USDA research counterparts. I assure you the firings are not based on waste or merit. The scientists hired in the past two years are being fired with no cause. They’re bright, young, and motivated people who did nothing wrong. Your environment, food cost and agricultural competitiveness has been evicerated and the impacts will be long and painful. A bunch of 25 year old computer jocks are doing the damage with no concept of what they are eliminating. It’s stupid. I am quite conservative politically.

Good

 

[LakesiteDawg]

Folks just like your father have been indiscriminately fired because Musk/Trump believe government employees are inherently lazy.

The majority of ones are lazy and headcount is way too high.

 

[HarryDawg'95]

The majority of ones are lazy and headcount is way too high.

Can you cite specific examples that back up your assertion - or is this just your “belief/bias” ?

 

[NWGA_DAWG]

What is being uncovered by DOGE, in your mind?

Your dad sounds like a heck of a man.

The greatest money laundering scheme in human history.

 

[Athens62]

Considering fraud is a crime, you’d expect DOGE to be turning over evidence to the DOJ for prosecution, but…that hasn’t happened…zero fraud found

You don’t know that. I can assure you they are working with DOJ - If fraud is found, it will be handled correctly. Those cases are going to be huge deals & will test the US in lots of ways.

 

[LakesiteDawg]

Can you cite specific examples that back up your assertion - or is this just your “belief/bias” ?

I know enough of them that don’t do shit plus the majority can’t even answer an email saying 5 things they have done. Doge has uncovered several examples so look them up if you are curious.

 

[clrushton1]

I know enough of them that don’t do shit plus the majority can’t even answer an email saying 5 things they have done. Doge has uncovered several examples so look them up if you are curious.

You know enough of them? So you know enough of a percentage of 2 million people to make a blanket claim about their work ethic?

That’s crazy man. What do you do for a living that would have you know that many people? Know them personally and professionally apparently? I don’t think I’ve ever interacted with 2 million people in my lifetime so for you to have relationships with that many must be a real struggle to maintain. Kudos.

 

[HarryDawg'95]

I know enough of them that don’t do shit plus the majority can’t even answer an email saying 5 things they have done. Doge has uncovered several examples so look them up if you are curious.

My turn to make a blanket statement with zero evidence and simply my own bias,: it is people such as yourself that will be hurt the most by DOGE and the Trump regime.

Who specifically doesn’t do shit that you know? What is their job? male or female? Ethnicity?

 

[KidneyStoned]

Dad was a mechanical engineer with the US Army Corps of Engineers. He mostly designed heating and cooling systems for government buildings at Forts Stewart / Hunter, Benning, Gordon, Jackson, and Bragg. He also did other projects like designing the lighting system for the approach to a runway at Hunter Army Airfield that could be seen from White Bluff Road for many years until it was replaced by new technology. That was a big source of pride for me.

Dad hated waste and incompetence. He couldn’t stand new Ga Tech graduates that thought they knew everything but actually didn’t know shit from shinola.

The Corps designed a tidal gate system for the Savannah Back River that was supposed to increase water flow in the main river channel to decrease the need for frequent dredging. Dad looked at the design and said it wouldn’t work. They built the damn thing anyways. Guess what, it didn’t work.

When I was a kid during the 60’s and 70’s, Dad often brought home citations and awards for having a great idea that saved money and/or made things better. The awards were usually for $500 to $1,000 for his idea, big bonus money back in those days. Mom would frame them and hang them on the wall until we ran out of space to hang them all.

My Dad was my image of an ideal federal employee growing up. He never got rich, but made a positive difference at work and put his boys through school with no debt and supported his extended family.

Dad would spin in his grave if he knew the crap being uncovered by DOGE, and he would be all for what Trump is doing to Make America Great Again. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have any trouble coming up with five good things he accomplished last week.

Do you think he would have supported massive “chainsaw” firings at the Corp, done without any consideration of the employee’s merits? Because that’s what’s happening now. Sounds like he was great at the job. In this environment, his greatness would not factor in to his job security.

 

[Booneville Dawg]

Waste I’ll agree with. But I’m not aware of any fraud.

The Fraud cases I have seen in Court pretty well fall within these guides from the Legal Dictionary:
Fraud takes place when a person deliberately practices deception in order to gain something unlawfully or unfairly. In most states, the act of fraud can be classified as either a civil or a criminal wrong. While fraud is most commonly committed to obtain benefits of value, it sometimes occurs solely for the purpose of deceiving another person or entity. For instance, if a person makes false statements, it may be considered fraud, depending on the circumstances.