So...what happens now?
Their ratings continue to plummet. Adam Silver has destroyed the NBA.
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So...what happens now?
Not everyone thought that was a positive development.
We must be watching different videos. They tried detaining him. He fought them. Tried tasing him. Didnt work. They didnt skip any steps.So detain him before he reaches his car. Step 1 isn’t to shoot. Cop was a dumbass who couldn’t perform his job and skipped to the last resort before doing anything else.
Resisting arrest doesn’t warrant an execution. Ever. Ever.
Yes, but that's because a lot of people are pretty racist
Changing a flag, a extraordinarily simple single task, has nothing to do with policing, their complex policies and work environment, nor is it the same as discussing how 700,000 police officers individually police.
You're so right. Cop should have waited to see what he was grabbing out of the car. That's what you would want your child to do, right? Cops don't get the chance to be wrong more than once. Your statement is ignorant.Resisting arrest isn’t a death sentence. End of story. 7 shots is insane. Cop just isn’t cut out for his job and can’t deescalate a situation properly.
We must be watching different videos. They tried detaining him. He fought them. Tried tasing him. Didnt work. They didnt skip any steps.
Nope. But I get that that's taught in Democrat 101 class. Lesson one is to call everyone who disagrees with you a racist! I don't play that game.
They don’t know what they are doing. They’re throwing all their weight behind BLM and the hard left that want to defund departments versus going after real material change, and 4/5 Americans are not on board with that. It’s truly a leaderless effort to this point.that was one small and very recent example
it does take a lot of time and political support to reform something as large and complex as the police. The NBA players are using their platforms and potentially sacrificing their careers to change something they care about. Not a bad way to make a statement in a peaceful but powerful way.
Yes, but that's because a lot of people are pretty racist
Looks like you're paying attention to it.
They don’t know what they are doing. They’re throwing all their weight behind BLM and the hard left that want to defund departments versus going after real material change, and 4/5 Americans are not on board with that. It’s truly a leaderless effort to this point.
how many is a lot?
College football players threatening to boycott helped to make Mississippi remove the Confederate flag from their state flag this summer
Sports can have positive impacts on politics
Wow. Then they too, ended racism
Checking recent polls, a majority of Americans believe the police don't use proper force in each situation, don't treat minorities equally and support police reform. It's actually closer to 4/5 in the opposite direction.
There are many reforms that have widespread support, such as focusing training on better de-escalation tactics or hiring more black officers and replacing certain police duties. Just a few years ago police officers didn't even wear body cams, yet we've already made that change, which has been great for both sides.
"Defunding the police" has lower political support, but that's not what the majority of people want with reform. What they want are fewer incidents and more accountability when officers make mistakes, which they do make.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...upport-more-training-transparency/3259628001/
https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...-power-to-sue-police-officers-for-misconduct/
So detain him before he reaches his car. Step 1 isn’t to shoot. Cop was a dumbass who couldn’t perform his job and skipped to the last resort before doing anything else.
Resisting arrest doesn’t warrant an execution. Ever. Ever.
Yes you can. More whites dies at hands of police than blacks. When you break law and then resist arrest, you are likely to get shot.After Doc Rivers last night... I was surprised anybody played... the black panthers were started over a single issue; police brutality... 60 years later... can’t blame them for being fed up
LMAO polls? Polls are no measure of anything anymore. They are used to shape opinion and push a leftists agenda
Small positive changes are still positive changes
You don't have to convince me. I'm just glad racism is over
Yes, which is why there have been *attempted* policy change even this year with police. My point is your not going to achieve anything when a sizeable portion of a movement you’re piggybacking off of wants to defund the police. Pretty much everyone dislikes that idea.Checking recent polls, a majority of Americans believe the police don't use proper force in each situation, don't treat minorities equally and support police reform. It's actually closer to 4/5 in the opposite direction.
There are many reforms that have widespread support, such as focusing training on better de-escalation tactics or hiring more black officers and replacing certain police duties. Just a few years ago police officers didn't even wear body cams, yet we've already made that change, which has been great for both sides.
"Defunding the police" has lower political support, but that's not what the majority of people want with reform. What they want are fewer incidents and more accountability when officers make mistakes, which they do make.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...upport-more-training-transparency/3259628001/
https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...-power-to-sue-police-officers-for-misconduct/
Are you implying that Mississippi should have kept their existing state flag?
Also, officers of the same race are statistically shown to be more aggressive towards their own race FYI so one of your points is not valid.
No. I'm implying I'm glad they ended racism once and for all
My mistake, I did not realize that ignorance is your preference
You're the ignorant one if you believe in polls. I guess you learned nothing back in 2016....
https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/can you please provide the source for that? Would be very interesting to read
Just who is watching the Chinese NBA anyway???Bucks just decided to not play today. Lol wow
Are there more or fewer incidents now than, say, 10 years ago?Checking recent polls, a majority of Americans believe the police don't use proper force in each situation, don't treat minorities equally and support police reform. It's actually closer to 4/5 in the opposite direction.
There are many reforms that have widespread support, such as focusing training on better de-escalation tactics or hiring more black officers and replacing certain police duties. Just a few years ago police officers didn't even wear body cams, yet we've already made that change, which has been great for both sides.
"Defunding the police" has lower political support, but that's not what the majority of people want with reform. What they want are fewer incidents and more accountability when officers make mistakes, which they do make.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...upport-more-training-transparency/3259628001/
https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...-power-to-sue-police-officers-for-misconduct/
Nope tired of false narratives. 9 unarmed blacks died last year at the hands of the police. Roughly 50 poc have died in these riots. You do the math on what kills more black lives. Don’t get me started on black on black crime. These are facts not a media agenda.Most of u on here are just absolute morons, or just blind... and u know who I bet agrees with me, Kirby Smart, this staff, and the players!!! I’m with these players and the hurt they feel.. so y’all can go eat a dick
Are there more or fewer incidents now than, say, 10 years ago?
Should this be viewed as a local or national issue? What if the numbers in Wisconsin are going in the wrong direction but the numbers in Arizona are going in a very different direction? Should we direct animus at AZ or nationalize the issue if the culture and training differ in the thousands of different jurisdictions across this vast country?
Are we setting an impossible standard? What is an acceptable number of bad acts or are we looking for zero? Is zero achievable given imperfect human behavior and the raw number of dangerous interactions that require split second decisions made under stress?
Paint me your picture of what achievable success looks like and tell me how far we are from that using data, not a few anecdotes. And whatever you do, don’t use disparities in a numerator without also referencing the denominator.
There's been a lot of literature about the mistakes of polling in the 2016 election, but none of it indicates that polls are inherently bad. Polling flaws were magnified by the electoral college where small changes in a few swing states can quickly change the math in a candidate's favor.
You are quite literally preaching ignorance in this case
I understand it's because the polls I cited clearly favor a position you disagree with, so I'm happy to agree that you are wrong
your polls ALWAYS poll more Democrats than Republicans.
Recent story before all this nonsense started. Police had to shoot an armed suspect coming at them. He was shot 21 times, 17 of which were center body mass before he was stopped. Toxicology showed he was on NO drugs. So you don’t even have to be on PCP. remember this next time your local politician says you don’t need more than 10 rounds in your magazine.Its not insane. You ever seen a suspect hopped up on PCP? Shots 1-6 could do nothing if hes still going for a weapon. Sorry you dont feel that way.
He was already combative with the cops and had a warrant, he wasnt going down without a fight.
Any idea what that trajectory looks like?I believe police reform is primarily a local issue that requires a local solution. It's not a one-size-fits-all thing here, but one that necessitates local community input and a tailored solution.
If numbers are going the wrong way in one area relative to another, I don't think that means we nationalize the issue. I'm a pretty big advocate of this being a local issue with some federal oversight for extreme issues, such as if a department demonstrates widespread corruption. There are plenty of ways to improve training and culture across the board and solutions that can be incorporated, but again I'm not in favor of nationalizing this at all.
Zero is always the ideal for the number of problems, but I wouldn't say that's the practical goal. The goal is to reduce the number of issues and to create a system with more accountability in the event something goes wrong.
Any idea what that trajectory looks like?
Also, agree with this.I believe police reform is primarily a local issue that requires a local solution. It's not a one-size-fits-all thing here, but one that necessitates local community input and a tailored solution.
If numbers are going the wrong way in one area relative to another, I don't think that means we nationalize the issue. I'm a pretty big advocate of this being a local issue with some federal oversight for extreme issues, such as if a department demonstrates widespread corruption. There are plenty of ways to improve training and culture across the board and solutions that can be incorporated, but again I'm not in favor of nationalizing this at all.
Zero is always the ideal for the number of problems, but I wouldn't say that's the practical goal. The goal is to reduce the number of issues and to create a system with more accountability in the event something goes wrong.