So this is how I see it. We lose by 2 tds or more to UF, the coaching search
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Ridiculous to sug gest we will make coaching change. We just commited to all new coaches on both sides of ball and have to give it a chance. Did you see how many freshman we played. Freshman brought in by this new staff are moving ahead of many overated veterans. See this through
I don't know about the ''overrated veterans'' part, but after a cool down sleep, I agree, We have to let this course play out. We are clearly seeing some very good signs from the 2015 class, especially on defense. Even Schotty needs a period of time to adjust to the college game. My thinking is We'll have a very good idea of how this program as it is put together now will shake out in 2017.
Unless the coaches lose the players and regress, it makes no sense to abandon the course we've set.
I'm still excited by much of what I see developing.
You can say anything you want pretty much anytime you want.
This argument wouldn't make sense a lot of years, it does now though.
There have been points in Richt's tenure it was a close call as to whether making changes to his staff or finding a new HC was the best course, that isn't the case now. All of the staff changes many of us thought were needed have been made. We have easily the best organization we've ever had top to bottom. Now is not the time to take a wreaking ball to it.
He already has had the chance to change coaches and produce different results. Got rid of Willie, got the fool, now has pruitt. Remember when he handed off the play calling because things would get better....results haven't. I don't think we've won an SEC since he did so.
Second, we've averaged a top 8 class. We shouldn't be in a "building" mode in the 15th year of a coach. If this was year 1, like Harbaugh, maybe....but it isn't. This isn't a program with his fingerprints all over it, this is his entire program and has been that way for quite some time.
2017 doesn't occur, 2016 might and probably will, but if we lose, especially badly to UF and then also blow the Tech game....he better bounce back big time in 2016.
Unless the new OC has came in and started all over and the new offense is calculus I don't get it. Looked at the Athlon preseason mag again and unit ratings UGA had the best running backs, the top OL in the SEC. In addition they have two TE's who will likely play in the NFL and a big time receiver in Mitchell and a big play kick returner. I mean come on. Sure they just came off the two emotional, balls to the wall rivalries but you figured they would get the let down out of their system and at least freaking score a TD against Mizzou.
I think something is going on. MR seems to be subdued. I mean the SEC east is ACC level and Georgia is going to wind up 10-2 and in Atlanta or 9-3 reg season. Then what do you do?
He may be about to resign come what may.
I think something is going on. MR seems to be subdued. I mean the SEC east is ACC level and Georgia is going to wind up 10-2 and in Atlanta or 9-3 reg season. Then what do you do?
He may be about to resign come what may.
Richt is less subdued than in past years, there's nothing ''going on'' other than a couple of bad losses.
By the way, most UGA fans predicted 10-2 or 9-3 before the season started.
I've been seeing Richt through for 15 years without much change in the results. If we as a fan base don't demand greatness, mediocrity will continue to be rewarded.
As usual you are either such a contrarian that you get blinded by reality. Just like to argue. Or like many can't accept a more succinct view. I have my feelings about what is going on based upon a long life of experience and clearly state they are what may be, could be and so forth. You just stake a claim to the contrary making a certain claim based upon ........nothing. Nothing other than what I have which is nothing either. MR has been very clearly subdued the last few days/weeks since the national championship bubble that media and fans were dreaming and speaking of has abated.
I do know this, AD McGarrity has straight forward discussions with Coach after last season. What they entailed would likely be known only by the two of them and the folks who authorized and more than likely dictated the topics and copy to ADM. I also know this: there is now and has been for some time a feeling of frustration given UGA's position in the league (east), recruiting grounds (generally thought to be fourth best in-state crop with no other Georgia school comp), and the almost unlimited budget comparatively speaking and over the top fan support. And I do know Big Don, we just BS on the occasional path crossings but I know how competitive he is. I also know ADM and Coach have a new boss who inherited both of them. Which gets back to where I started, I know nothing (same as you) but I suspect things along.
The program has been retooled in every area over the past 3 years, it's not like people are sitting on their hands with contented grins on their faces.
Also the early years were as good as any program in the country, things just didn't quite line up for a title.
I'm as frustrated as anybody and I've had periods where I thought it was time to change HCs, but this isn't one of them. You don't set a course you expect to take several years then abandon it mid course unless it becomes clear it's not going to work. The course set with the hiring of Coach Pruitt hasn't had enough time to mature, it'd be a knee jerk decision based on emotion to give up at this point.
Of course if it does become evident we're not getting where we want to be, we can reassess then.
I disagree. You're blinded by the fact that Richt won the first SEC title in 25 years in 2002 to see the collapse against an awful UF team. As far as Pruitt is concerned, he's under-qualified! He was a coordinator for 1 year at FSU and had an upper classmen laden roster on defense and a very good offense. It's hard not to succeed with that setup. His in-game "adjustments" are awful. SC and UF last season were absolutely laughable in terms of defensive coaching. Pruitt has done 1 thing well - capitalize on his 15 seconds of fame. In reality, he should be borrowing one of Richt's ski masks when he goes to cash his paycheck.
If you consider players as ''tangible'', then yes.
It takes time for them to develop though. This is why you need some understanding of the game beyond box scores to judge where a program is, and more important where it might be going.
The program didn't underperform in Richt's early years. The only bad marks were a couple of close losses to UF. Name a program that didn't have a tough loss or 2 in that period.
It's too soon to judge where Pruitt's defenses will be when his first to recruiting classes are playing with at least a year's experience. That will be in 2017 and we'll have amazing talent in the front 7.
There is nothing ''going on'', of course there is LITERALLY, but when has that not been the case.
In case your deep contacts didn't inform you, McGarity meets with every HC in every UGA sport after EVERY SEASON. I'm sure he's straight forward with every coach every year, so yeah, I'm sure he did so this past offseason as well, so something was ''literally'' going on, same as always.
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JP is one of the top assistant football coaches in America. His upperclassman defense @ FSU included two freshmen starters at his hands on position, db's. His defense last year also was manned by several freshmen in the secondary when the knucklehead 4/5 stars recruited and coached before he arrived blew up and left at a record pace, yet still improved as the year went by and swarmed Nick Marshall. They again have several youngsters in the lineup this year having lost all 3 DT's, both linebackers and their most exp db (Conley) to grad. But as CMR said they were improved tacklers from day one this year and were fifth in the nation in red zone going into UA game. A game where Bama went an incredible 1 for 12 on third down. They also just held Mizzou to 6 1st downs and 2 FG's, absurd against anyone these days. Unless the wheels run off they will also improve again coming down the stretch. Defense (and offense) was flat against UT following the armageddon like game the week before, struggling to tackle Dobbs. But so has everyone since UT leads the SEC in rushing.
BTW, he was named the top recruiter in America when he was at Bama and was the best recruiter on that staff from the day he got a full time job there and they have struggled to fill his spot on the defensive staff. Guy who replaced him in the secondary was fired after '13 and then Kirby took a shot at it and was also moved back to his original position after failing last year. JP has been the linchpin for massive change and an upgrade in most every way in his short time at UGA. Occasionally making it difficult to see who is actually in charge while he has accomplished in record time what Georgia fans have screamed for for years both on and off the field. JMO and as always we shall see since he like everybody will do good and occasionally burn the biscuits too. Me, I wouldn't be surprised at anything from Richt coaching five more years to resigning at the end of 2015 or '16.
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