WTH? Whatever arrest and prosecutions should have been done in 2 years max. Another example of Garland and Wrey and there areas being completely incompetent. I have no pity for J-6 folks that put their hand on officers but this stuff should have been wrapped up long ago. They are leaving a mess for Trump's AG to cleanup and then they will scream they didn't like the way she cleaned it up. Total incompetence...........
So we are still arresting J-6 folks as late as November 2024
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Its a lot of bad things but it's not incompetence. They know exactly what they are doing
seeing the videos of police officers removing the handcuffs of people and then high fiving them.. yeah they should be in jail.. lol officers opening up the barricades and unlocking the doors and letting people in.. lol. i swear the democrats are so crazy they are calling jan 6, 2020 worst than 9/11.. LOL morons.
That’s all they have left
They are a miserable bunch
We should it have been completed in less than two years? It was a mass event and has led to by far the largest number of federal convictions (over 1000 have pled guilty and over 220 have been found guilty after trial) from a single event. It's entirely unprecedented in our history. The DOJ is still operating well within the statute of limitations. What's the logic behind the requirement that all prosecutions be completed in two years?
Trump should pardon every one of them we didn’t forcibly enter the Capitol. I think he should commute Many of the sentences. The FBI was encouraging people to enter. It will be uncovered.
They can operate anywhere they fn want to. Come Jan 20 Trump will pardon everyone. There are Americans that to this day who intentionally haven’t received due process. Total BS.
1. With the amount of resources thrown at this incident, all charges should have been filed within 2 years, absurdity inefficiency or intentional (my guess) to drag this out .
2. But as you said, still within their statute of limitations, and rumor is a certainly law enforcement officer will be charged with murder by new justice department. I have mixed feelings on this issue but because it appeared to be swept 🧹 under the rug (shooting an unarmed person by an officer) I think a full investigation is warranted. Moreover, who chose not to prosecute and why should be reviewed.
It’s Lt. Byrd now…….. they promoted the son of a bitch! This shit show was encouraged by the Left to disrupt an objection by a Congressman and a Senator to the Electoral Count. All under the Law of Electoral Act of 1887. For the 1st time ever the objection was in writing and signed by a Senator. Huge problem for the Left and the Democrats! These objections had to be disrupted…… to stop the Debate and to scare off Senators. January 6 was orchestrated under the ruse of an insurrection.
thats so sad if he was promoted
he shot an unarmed person , the left looks for that stuff daily
well this did not fit the agenda lol
wonder why?
A bunch of people enter the building and Wilded
spare me all the holy grail shit about it be in the US capital. They were no weapons. This is simply a political ploy, probably is set up by the Democrat. Nothing to see here. But keep giving Ukraine billions spend in the country into oblivion and coming up with hush money for the sexually abused kids that worked in the capital. Cry me a River. Maybe next time The Republicans could just go burn down most of DC. That’s ok
spare me all the holy grail shit about it be in the US capital. They were no weapons. This is simply a political ploy, probably is set up by the Democrat. Nothing to see here. But keep giving Ukraine billions spend in the country into oblivion and coming up with hush money for the sexually abused kids that worked in the capital. Cry me a River. Maybe next time The Republicans could just go burn down most of DC. That’s ok
Under the rug? I've watched the video of the incident multiple times, as has anyone who can use google and has an interest.
Charging and prosecuting the officer who shot Ashli Babbit is exactly the kind of self-own I expect to see often from this administration. I sincerely hope they do it and would welcome the re-focus on the evidence and testimony that reminds us of exactly what the circumstances were and what preceded the shooting.
The tour of the Capital Building pails in comparison to the BLM Riots. Garland and his DOJ no where to be seen.
This is an article from June 4th, 2020.
AP tally: Arrests at widespread US protests hit 10,000
PHOENIX (AP) — More than 10,000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd's death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S.
apnews.com
From December of the same year.
Tracking federal and non-federal cases related to Summer-Fall protests, riots, & uprisings - the Prosecution Project
Latest update: December 29, 2022 Original post: July 1, 2020 Since the murder of George Floyd on May 25, 2020 by Minneapolis police and the resulting waves of protests nationwide, tPP has fielded many requests to help provide a count of resulting felony cases. The early summer protests, riots...
theprosecutionproject.org
Has the short round Capital Police officer that was running around waving for everyone to "come on in" ever been identified? Ever Questioned? What a sham. What a ruse!
It was announced within 1 week he wouldn't be charged. We are still charging folks 4 years after the incident and an officer who shot an unarmed women is completely exonerated within 1 week and apparently later promoted. A shooting of an unarmed person on federal property should have been a FULL 3 month minimum investigation. Again, as I have said many times, I'm not throwing the officer under the bus as the lady was trespassing and apparently trying to breach another area but none of the other officers fired their weapons and no legislators were attacked so why exactly the officer fired.
He was justified to use his firearm because it was the last line of defense between members of Congress and what had already been proven to be a violent mob.
Again, I would welcome a very public investigation and trial of that officer, just as I would welcome the widespread use of pardons for those convicted of felonies for their participation in J6. Then we can all enjoy the renewed media attention and focus on the many videos of rioters carrying Trump flags and beating the absolute shit out of LEOs. Please let’s remind everyone of what happened and why and who was behind it (as proven by the pardons).
Wow, you have already made the determination it was justified BEFORE an investigation. So you are falling in like with Pelosi and her elites. I give ALL OFFICERS somewhat of a benefit of the doubt in most cases but when they are dealing with shooting and killing unarmed suspects then you have to pause and do a full review which was most likely NOT DONE. I don't expect the George Floyd Officer treatment of him but he needs to be reviewed and justify his reasoning.
I think Trump is foolish to do a widespread pardon, i would limit at first to non-violent trespassers and then to ones with with outliers in sentencing as compared to norm. I suspect that would be 80% in total of all the convictions. Moreover, i would take a hard look at anyone in the FBI or Justice Department working on these cases or the Maralargo Raid, based on their reasoning for being on the case they very could be transferred to San Fransico, or Northern Alaska.
I would have zero problem with the following: Do a quick statistical study of the typical outcomes associated with riots like this involving destruction of public property, threats to innocents, etc, etc. Just prosecute them and punish them according to what is typical. Simple as that. Anyone engaging in that activity took a calculated risk, that if caught, they would face consequences commensurate with that activity. To put DOJ on steroids as a political reaction to all things Trump is not fair to these folks. Let them face consequences similar to others who have done the same thing.
Can you admit that the amount of resources, prosecutions, indictments, punishment has been supercharged due to the political opinions of the DOJ? Even if you think that is appropriate, admit it.
Also - you can't have it both ways. If Trump is the one who effectively ordered the riot.....doesn't that imply a level of innocence based on the "few good men / following orders" thinking? Conversely, if it is the rioters that are to blame, doesn't that imply a level of innocence for Trump?
Bottom line - Trump was a jackass on that day. These people were jackasses that day. As predicted, the American people give a lot more shits about things that actually effect them, and they made that known in November. Biden has been exposed for what he is. And Trump has never been more popular. J6 turned out to be a nothing burger politically. Sorry.
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Part of the problem with your position is that we've never had a similar situation in our history. The riot was an explicit effort to disrupt the peaceful transition of power, which is our single most unique and sacred tradition. Human nature is not to give up power willingly, and we pulled it off for 240 years. Not even the civil war attempted to depose Lincoln, the southern states simply attempted to dissolve the union, which while obviously serious, is a different deal.
I'm comfortable with anyone who was charged unfairly, either pled guilty or was convicted in trial and who was then sentenced outside the sentencing guidelines appealing for a pardon. If Trump pardons anyone who was convicted of a violent felony, one would hope that it will come with an explanation for why, but all bets are off with the new administration.
The "just following orders" defense is not relevant. These people were not in the military, and even in the military you are not required to follow unlawful orders. Of course, thanks to SCOTUS, what in the future constitutes an unlawful order from Trump or what the implications are for anyone following said unlawful order is unclear at best. To call that problematic is an understatement.
One correction. The 'American people" didn't decide that J6 didn't matter. 49.8% of those who voted, or 1.6% more than those who voted for Harris, decided it didn't matter enough to prevent their vote. That was certainly enough to win Trump the election, but let's not pretend that half the country doesn't continue to have huge issues with Trump, who he is and what he represents.
Trump hasn't taken office yet and I think some of his supporters are already finding out they may not get what they thought they were getting when they voted for him. No question it's going to be a hell of a wild ride. Buckle up. We can look forward to Trump continuing to take on tough issues like renaming the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.
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yea riots were nothing lolThis is an article from June 4th, 2020.
AP tally: Arrests at widespread US protests hit 10,000
PHOENIX (AP) — More than 10,000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd's death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S.
From December of the same year.
Tracking federal and non-federal cases related to Summer-Fall protests, riots, & uprisings - the Prosecution Project
Latest update: December 29, 2022 Original post: July 1, 2020 Since the murder of George Floyd on May 25, 2020 by Minneapolis police and the resulting waves of protests nationwide, tPP has fielded many requests to help provide a count of resulting felony cases. The early summer protests, riots...
Find me an equal or even more violent event that has led to anywhere close to this level of prosecution / punishment. Most are guilty of being pissed and having poor judgement. Doubt any of them thought they were truly going to stop Biden from being Prez. If anything they were probably shocked there wasn’t more resistance and just kept following the crowd. Idiots. But punished for political reasons. Not because they were a legit danger. For those who were proven to strike police, prosecute accordingly. The political icing is wrong.
On last paragraph you remain guilty of the same shit….getting hot and bothered about rhetoric. Bottom line
I fully expect the hostages to be returned.
I fully expect the Russia Ukraine war to end.
I fully expect a much improved economy, as do the capital markets. Specifically with smaller businesses.
But he’s hurting thr feelings of Canada and Denmark. And
The Rodney King riots in LA resulted in 228 injured LEOs and over 14,000 were arrested.
J6 resulted in 140 LEOs being injured and about 1500 people have been charged. And J6 was almost certainly the most thoroughly documented (thousands of hours of video footage from every angle imaginable) mass crime in history. Nearly every plea deal or conviction included video evidence f some kind.
Regarding Trumps rhetoric, nobody’s feelings are hurt. When people say stupid things, others tend to take note it, particularly when coming from the supposed leader of the free world. Nothing more, nothing less.
I hope you are right about the great results we can expect from Trump. January 20th will be here soon enough.
My guess is that the jail time for a non-violent rioter during Rodney King was minimal compared to some of the non-violent rioters at the Capitol. Again - if they hit a cop, we are on the same page. I'm talking about the ones who just followed the crowd. Idiots for sure. But not idiots that deserve significant jail time.[
Trump's "stupid things said" typically translate to a good negotiating stance for Americans. As I have said many times, his super power is his willingness to be hated. Unlike most politicians, especially guys like Obama, who want to be globally popular at the expense of Americans.
"Stupid things" like I am going to unleash hell on Iran if Hamas doesn't release the hostages = effective.
"Stupid things" like I am going to take a tough stance on trade deficits..........benefits Americans. You think Trudeau would have resigned if Harris won? Trump knows better than anyone that Canada will never be a State. But it is that rhetoric that sets the stage for a deal that.....wait for it....helps Americans.
Does Zuckerberg eliminate his ex-CNN fact checkers if Harris wins? Hell no.
The world is already changing for the better with this asshole who says stupid shit in office. He may be an asshole, but he is an effective leader.
