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Was president during the pandemic. Imagine if Biden or any den was president. Herd immunity would be achieved before a vaccine. Remember how they mocked Trump when he said a vaccine would available by years end ? . The “experts” were way off on their timeline. We won’t hear anyone acknowledge they were wrong on the timeline. Nor will any media outlets give Trump credit. We see leaders taking credit for things they had no impact on but Trump absolutely facilitated the the incredible timeframe for these vaccines. As far as the spread, this virus is going to do what viruses do. Trump closed the border in the beginning and was attacked for that. Once the virus was here, People are going to do what they do. There would be no difference in the spread regardless of who’s president. The real mismanagement impacting the spread was Cuomo’s nursing home fiasco. If we can get folks vaccinated, looks like the mortality rate. Is going to be about what experts projected as best case in the beginning, In spite of mismanagement of nursing homes. Closing the borders and expediting the vaccine will ultimately save countless lives.
 
Was president during the pandemic. Imagine if Biden or any den was president. Herd immunity would be achieved before a vaccine. Remember how they mocked Trump when he said a vaccine would available by years end ? . The “experts” were way off on their timeline. We won’t hear anyone acknowledge they were wrong on the timeline. Nor will any media outlets give Trump credit. We see leaders taking credit for things they had no impact on but Trump absolutely facilitated the the incredible timeframe for these vaccines. As far as the spread, this virus is going to do what viruses do. Trump closed the border in the beginning and was attacked for that. Once the virus was here, People are going to do what they do. There would be no difference in the spread regardless of who’s president. The real mismanagement impacting the spread was Cuomo’s nursing home fiasco. If we can get folks vaccinated, looks like the mortality rate. Is going to be about what experts projected as best case in the beginning, In spite of mismanagement of nursing homes. Closing the borders and expediting the vaccine will ultimately save countless lives.
I wonder how many people they will cause to die by withholding their test results until after the election. But thank God for Trump.
 
For anyone who's forgotten, here's a partial list of Trunp's comments on the virus:

When: Thursday, February 27
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”

When: Multiple times
The claim: “Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”
The truth: When Trump made these claims in May, coronavirus cases were either increasing or plateauing in the majority of American states. Over the summer, the country saw a second surge even greater than its first in the spring.

When: Wednesday, June 17
The claim: The pandemic is “fading away. It’s going to fade away.”
The truth: Trump made this claim ahead of his rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, when the country was still seeing at least 20,000 new daily cases and a second spike in infections was beginning.

When: Thursday, July 2
The claim: The pandemic is “getting under control.”
The truth: Trump’s claim came as the country’s daily cases doubled to about 50,000, a higher count than was seen at the beginning of the pandemic, and as the number continued to rise, fueled by infections in the South and the West.

When: Saturday, July 4
The claim: “99%” of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless.”
The truth: The virus can still cause tremendous suffering if it doesn’t kill a patient, and the WHO has said that about 15 percent of COVID-19 cases can be severe, with 5 percent being critical. Fauci has rejected Trump’s claim, saying the evidence shows that the virus “can make you seriously ill” even if it doesn’t kill you.

When: Monday, July 6
The claim: “We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World.”
The truth: The U.S. had neither the lowest mortality rate nor the lowest case-fatality rate when Trump made this claim. As of July 13, the case-fatality rate—the ratio of deaths to confirmed COVID-19 cases—was 4.1 percent, which placed the U.S. solidly in the middle of global rankings. At the time, it had the world’s ninth-worst mortality rate, with 41.33 deaths per 100,000 people, according to Johns Hopkins University.

I could go on, but why? Anybody who's been paying attention these past few months knows The Donald's leadership during the time of Covid has not been good,
 
For anyone who's forgotten, here's a partial list of Trunp's comments on the virus:

When: Thursday, February 27
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”

When: Multiple times
The claim: “Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”
The truth: When Trump made these claims in May, coronavirus cases were either increasing or plateauing in the majority of American states. Over the summer, the country saw a second surge even greater than its first in the spring.

When: Wednesday, June 17
The claim: The pandemic is “fading away. It’s going to fade away.”
The truth: Trump made this claim ahead of his rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, when the country was still seeing at least 20,000 new daily cases and a second spike in infections was beginning.

When: Thursday, July 2
The claim: The pandemic is “getting under control.”
The truth: Trump’s claim came as the country’s daily cases doubled to about 50,000, a higher count than was seen at the beginning of the pandemic, and as the number continued to rise, fueled by infections in the South and the West.

When: Saturday, July 4
The claim: “99%” of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless.”
The truth: The virus can still cause tremendous suffering if it doesn’t kill a patient, and the WHO has said that about 15 percent of COVID-19 cases can be severe, with 5 percent being critical. Fauci has rejected Trump’s claim, saying the evidence shows that the virus “can make you seriously ill” even if it doesn’t kill you.

When: Monday, July 6
The claim: “We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World.”
The truth: The U.S. had neither the lowest mortality rate nor the lowest case-fatality rate when Trump made this claim. As of July 13, the case-fatality rate—the ratio of deaths to confirmed COVID-19 cases—was 4.1 percent, which placed the U.S. solidly in the middle of global rankings. At the time, it had the world’s ninth-worst mortality rate, with 41.33 deaths per 100,000 people, according to Johns Hopkins University.

I could go on, but why? Anybody who's been paying attention these past few months knows The Donald's leadership during the time of Covid has not been good,
For anyone who has forgotten(or ignored) all of the Trump admin has done, here is a partial list.

CMS COVID-19 Accomplishments Expanded Telehealth in Medicare Under the leadership of President Trump, Americans now have access to broader telehealth services, ensuring access to care while reducing the risk of COVID-19 exposure for both patients and healthcare providers. In Medicare, CMS has: • Expanded telehealth coverage to people living in all areas of the country so that beneficiaries living in both rural and urban settings can get care from their home rather than unnecessarily traveling to their doctor’s office. • Expanded the types of services patients can receive via telehealth, such as emergency department visits, initial nursing facility and discharge visits, home visits, critical care visits, radiation treatment management, therapeutic exercise, prosthetic training, assistive technology assessments, group psychotherapy, and end-stage renal disease care. • Expanded Medicare payment for telehealth services to allow routine office visits, preventive health screenings, mental health counseling, and care that ordinarily would require a trip to an outpatient clinic or hospital emergency room to be provided wherever the patient is located, including in their home. • Allowed telecommunications technologies to be used in lieu of in-person services across many settings of care, like home health, nursing homes, and hospice. • Expanded the types of healthcare providers that can provide telehealth services to include rural health clinics, federally qualified health clinics, physical therapists, occupational therapists, and others. • Expanded the scope of separately billable services that allow Medicare physicians to speak with patients virtually, by phone or video, rather than in person in order to prevent risk of infection. • Added payment for services of physicians and practitioners who treat patients over the phone to meet the needs of Medicare beneficiaries who may not have access to interactive audio/video technology. • Authorized Medicare Advantage plans to offer expanded telehealth coverage in urban and rural areas to meet the needs of their enrollees. Ensured Safety and Quality in Nursing Homes The Trump Administration is making data-driven decisions to protect nursing home residents and employees from COVID-19. CMS has: • Issued a call to action for nursing homes and state and local governments to work together to determine their needs for COVID-19 testing and personal protective equipment as well as designate certain treatment sites exclusively for COVID-19-positive or COVID-19-negative patients to avoid further transmissions. • Announced a new, independent Commission to conduct a comprehensive assessment of nursing homes’ responses to the pandemic and inform CMS decisions on threats to resident safety and public health. • Issued guidance on limiting visitors and nonessential healthcare personnel at nursing homes, except in compassionate care and end of life situations, to prevent transmission of the 2019 novel coronavirus. 1 6/12/2020 2 • Provided clear guidance on infection control and how to prepare the nation’s healthcare facilities for the COVID-19 threat, including procedures for screening and the use of personal protective equipment (PPE). • Increased surveillance and transparency by requiring all 15,417 Medicare and Medicaid nursing homes to report cases of COVID-19 to all residents, their families, and the CDC. • Conducted over 7,000 investigations of patient health and safety in nursing homes nationwide since March, prioritizing infection control and situations in which residents are in immediate jeopardy for serious injury or death. • Temporarily waived the requirement for 3-day prior hospitalization for coverage of nursing home stays, extended training requirement deadlines, and allowed facilities to transfer or discharge residents in order to group residents based on their COVID-19 status. • Released a toolkit that is updated regularly with recommendations and best practices to address the specific challenges facing nursing homes as they combat COVID-19. • Announced recommendations to ensure the safe reopening of nursing homes across the country, detailing critical steps nursing homes, communities, and states should take before relaxing restrictions implemented to prevent the spread of COVID-19. • Published data showing the incidence of COVID-19 in nursing homes, as well as the results of the agency’s targeted infection control inspections including the individual facilities’ survey results. • Increased enforcement (e.g., civil money penalties) for facilities with persistent infection control violations, and imposed enforcement actions on lower level infection control deficiencies to ensure they are addressed with increased gravity. Expanded Access to and Payment for Testing The Trump Administration has made it easier for Americans to be tested for COVID-19 while ensuring they are not burdened by the costs for testing services. To expand coverage and payment for testing, CMS has: • Quickly implemented recently enacted legislation that removed barriers to testing in Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and private insurance, and increased funding to Medicare providers for testing of uninsured individuals. • Ensured Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP beneficiaries can receive COVID-19 tests without cost sharing. • Clarified that Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP coverage of COVID-19 tests includes serology or antibody tests. • Allowed Medicaid and Medicare to pay for certain COVID-19 tests without a physician order. • Nearly doubled payment in Medicare for certain lab tests using high-throughput technologies that can process more than 200 specimens a day to appropriately pay laboratories to rapidly diagnose large numbers of COVID-19 tests. To ensure availability and timeliness of testing, CMS has: • Extended Medicare payment to laboratories to collect COVID-19 lab specimens from certain people at home or in other community settings in certain circumstances, and gave states greater flexibility to cover COVID-19 tests administered in alternate locations in Medicaid. 6/12/2020 3 • Allowed healthcare facilities like pharmacies to set up drive-through COVID-19 testing stations. • Expedited reviews of applications for lab certification, ensuring that labs are able to begin testing as quickly as possible to meet consumer needs. • Developed new billing codes and offered guidance on additional billing codes developed by the American Medical Association for COVID-19 lab tests that allow for better tracking of the public health response to this virus. Provided State and Local Flexibility The Trump Administration has taken swift action to provide state Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Programs (CHIP) with much needed flexibility to better address the coronavirus pandemic locally to meet their population’s needs. CMS has: • Rapidly approved Medicaid emergency waivers (section 1135 waivers) for all 50 states as well as the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. • Permitted state Medicaid programs to pay providers from other states for care delivered during the public health emergency, increasing the number of practitioners available to serve beneficiaries. • Allowed states to enroll eligible beneficiaries more quickly in programs that care for the elderly and people with disabilities, and to make changes to state rules to enhance access and delivery of services for the vulnerable populations in home and community-based settings. • Approved emergency information technology funding for certain states to enhance the systems that support Medicaid healthcare providers, patients, and state staff to ensure they have the resources they need to address the crisis. • Fostered acceleration of broader telehealth coverage policies and payment by issuing new guidance on telehealth opportunities, outlining ways that states can remove barriers to telehealth, and rapidly approving state requests for emergency waivers and funding. • Developed a toolkit to expedite the application and approval of Medicaid waivers and State Plan Amendments in order to approve new state requests in record time. • Updated regulations to allow more flexibility for Medicaid home health services, Medicaid lab services, and in the Basic Health Program. Bolstered the Healthcare Workforce The Trump Administration expanded the healthcare workforce to better care for COVID-19 patients by removing barriers for physicians, nurses, and other clinicians to be readily hired from the local community or other states, and by cutting red tape so that health professionals can practice at the top of their license. CMS has: • Temporarily waived Medicare supervision requirements for non-physician clinicians so nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and nurse anesthetists can practice at the top of their licenses and across state lines. • Increased care capacity by allowing additional healthcare providers to enroll in Medicare temporarily to provide care during the public health emergency. 6/12/2020 4 • Allowed nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and clinical nurse specialists to order home health services paid for by Medicare and Medicaid, and to certify/recertify patient eligibility for home healthcare, which would normally have to be approved by doctors. • Allowed physical and occupational therapists to delegate maintenance therapy services to physical and occupational therapy assistants in outpatient settings. • Permitted wider use of verbal orders rather than written orders so clinicians can focus more of their time taking care of patients instead of on paperwork. • Provided continued payments to teaching hospitals that shift residents to other hospitals to meet COVID-related needs, instead of penalizing teaching hospitals that lend residents and nonteaching hospitals that accept these residents. • Waived regulations so that hospitals can now support their medical staff by providing benefits like daily meals, laundry services, or child care services while they are on duty. • Waived a requirement for hospitals and ambulatory surgery centers to review medical staff privileges during the COVID-19 emergency declaration, allowing physicians and other practitioners with expiring privileges to continue taking care of patients. • Provided new flexibilities and made adjustments to current and future CMS Innovation Center models, including by revising the implementation dates for future models and shifting various deadlines for current models, giving model participants additional time to transition to valuebased care. Put Patients Over Paperwork In its continued commitment to Patients over Paperwork, the Trump Administration has reduced regulatory and reporting requirements during the pandemic, allowing providers to focus on patient care and addressing the coronavirus crisis. CMS has: • Temporarily eliminated certain paperwork requirements such as signature and proof of delivery for Part B drugs and durable medical equipment, and submission of certain forms for home oxygen therapy and infusion pumps. • Adjusted audit schedules for Medicare Advantage, Part D plans, and Programs of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly (PACE) organizations and modified the calculation of the 2021 and 2022 Medicare Advantage and Part D Star Ratings to reflect how the pandemic has changed health care delivery. • Paused the requirement for hospitals to have written policies and processes on visitation of patients who are in COVID-19 isolation, so that providers can spend more time on patient care. • Allowed more time for hospitals to provide patients a copy of their medical records. • Allowed more diabetic patients to monitor their glucose and adjust insulin doses at home by waiving certain clinical criteria for therapeutic continuous glucose monitors. • Paused prior authorization for certain items and services, including durable medical equipment, during the public health emergency so providers can act quickly to provide time-sensitive care to beneficiaries. • Established toll-free hotlines for providers to get quick answers on billing and clinical coverage as they work to use the flexibilities CMS provided. 6/12/2020 5 6/12/2020 • Extended some current providers’ certification to bill Medicare and Medicaid, waived certain screening requirements for new providers, and expedited new applications to accelerate the process for new providers joining the Medicare program to ensure beneficiaries have access to treatment. • Waived certain provisions in the physician self-referral law (also known as the “Stark Law”) to permit activities such as allowing healthcare providers to support each other financially to avoid issues with continuity of operations, such as loss of staff or clinic closures, related to the COVID-19 emergency. • Provided additional flexibility to issuers offering coverage on the federal Exchange platform to allow them to extend premium payment deadlines and delay coverage terminations to help individuals maintain Exchange coverage who may be experiencing difficulty paying their premium due to a loss of income. Increased Capacity through Hospitals Without Walls The Trump Administration has ensured that local hospitals and health systems have the capacity to handle and safely treat COVID-19 patients through temporary expansion sites (also known as the CMS Hospital Without Walls initiative). CMS has: • Enhanced hospital capacity to manage COVID-19 surges by allowing hospitals to transfer patients to alternative care sites, such as ambulatory surgery centers, inpatient rehabilitation hospitals, converted hotels, and dormitories. • Allowed Community Mental Health Centers to offer partial hospitalization and other mental health services to clients in the safety of their homes. • Allowed non-skilled nursing facility (SNF) buildings that are state-approved to be temporarily certified as and available for use by a SNF in the event there are needs for isolation processes for COVID-19 positive residents. • Issued emergency loan funding to healthcare providers through accelerated and advance Medicare payments to address cash flow issues due to disruption in claims submissions, the loss of elective surgeries, and processing disruptions caused by
 
Was president during the pandemic. Imagine if Biden or any den was president. Herd immunity would be achieved before a vaccine. Remember how they mocked Trump when he said a vaccine would available by years end ? . The “experts” were way off on their timeline. We won’t hear anyone acknowledge they were wrong on the timeline. Nor will any media outlets give Trump credit. We see leaders taking credit for things they had no impact on but Trump absolutely facilitated the the incredible timeframe for these vaccines. As far as the spread, this virus is going to do what viruses do. Trump closed the border in the beginning and was attacked for that. Once the virus was here, People are going to do what they do. There would be no difference in the spread regardless of who’s president. The real mismanagement impacting the spread was Cuomo’s nursing home fiasco. If we can get folks vaccinated, looks like the mortality rate. Is going to be about what experts projected as best case in the beginning, In spite of mismanagement of nursing homes. Closing the borders and expediting the vaccine will ultimately save countless lives.
Precisely what approved vaccine is "available" (not in development, not in trials) for actual use? Name it and show folks getting shots? You got some emergency applications. That's it. My doc doesn't know of one. Does yours? Trump is an idiot, a national embarassement just like your posts. You lost the election. You've been punked. Own it.

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Precisely what vaccine is available for use? Name it and show folks getting shots? My doc doesn't know of one. Does yours? Trump is an idiot, a national embarassement just like your posts. You lost the election. YOu've been punked. Own it.

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It is amusing the Dolly Parton got more recognition for the vaccine than The Donald.
 
For anyone who has forgotten(or ignored) all of the Trump admin has done, here is a partial list.

CMS COVID-19 Accomplishments Expanded Telehealth in Medicare Under the leadership of President Trump, Americans now have access to broader telehealth services, ensuring access to care while reducing the risk of COVID-19 exposure for both patients and healthcare providers. In Medicare, CMS has: • Expanded telehealth coverage to people living in all areas of the country so that beneficiaries living in both rural and urban settings can get care from their home rather than unnecessarily traveling to their doctor’s office. • Expanded the types of services patients can receive via telehealth, such as emergency department visits, initial nursing facility and discharge visits, home visits, critical care visits, radiation treatment management, therapeutic exercise, prosthetic training, assistive technology assessments, group psychotherapy, and end-stage renal disease care. • Expanded Medicare payment for telehealth services to allow routine office visits, preventive health screenings, mental health counseling, and care that ordinarily would require a trip to an outpatient clinic or hospital emergency room to be provided wherever the patient is located, including in their home. • Allowed telecommunications technologies to be used in lieu of in-person services across many settings of care, like home health, nursing homes, and hospice. • Expanded the types of healthcare providers that can provide telehealth services to include rural health clinics, federally qualified health clinics, physical therapists, occupational therapists, and others. • Expanded the scope of separately billable services that allow Medicare physicians to speak with patients virtually, by phone or video, rather than in person in order to prevent risk of infection. • Added payment for services of physicians and practitioners who treat patients over the phone to meet the needs of Medicare beneficiaries who may not have access to interactive audio/video technology. • Authorized Medicare Advantage plans to offer expanded telehealth coverage in urban and rural areas to meet the needs of their enrollees. Ensured Safety and Quality in Nursing Homes The Trump Administration is making data-driven decisions to protect nursing home residents and employees from COVID-19. CMS has: • Issued a call to action for nursing homes and state and local governments to work together to determine their needs for COVID-19 testing and personal protective equipment as well as designate certain treatment sites exclusively for COVID-19-positive or COVID-19-negative patients to avoid further transmissions. • Announced a new, independent Commission to conduct a comprehensive assessment of nursing homes’ responses to the pandemic and inform CMS decisions on threats to resident safety and public health. • Issued guidance on limiting visitors and nonessential healthcare personnel at nursing homes, except in compassionate care and end of life situations, to prevent transmission of the 2019 novel coronavirus. 1 6/12/2020 2 • Provided clear guidance on infection control and how to prepare the nation’s healthcare facilities for the COVID-19 threat, including procedures for screening and the use of personal protective equipment (PPE). • Increased surveillance and transparency by requiring all 15,417 Medicare and Medicaid nursing homes to report cases of COVID-19 to all residents, their families, and the CDC. • Conducted over 7,000 investigations of patient health and safety in nursing homes nationwide since March, prioritizing infection control and situations in which residents are in immediate jeopardy for serious injury or death. • Temporarily waived the requirement for 3-day prior hospitalization for coverage of nursing home stays, extended training requirement deadlines, and allowed facilities to transfer or discharge residents in order to group residents based on their COVID-19 status. • Released a toolkit that is updated regularly with recommendations and best practices to address the specific challenges facing nursing homes as they combat COVID-19. • Announced recommendations to ensure the safe reopening of nursing homes across the country, detailing critical steps nursing homes, communities, and states should take before relaxing restrictions implemented to prevent the spread of COVID-19. • Published data showing the incidence of COVID-19 in nursing homes, as well as the results of the agency’s targeted infection control inspections including the individual facilities’ survey results. • Increased enforcement (e.g., civil money penalties) for facilities with persistent infection control violations, and imposed enforcement actions on lower level infection control deficiencies to ensure they are addressed with increased gravity. Expanded Access to and Payment for Testing The Trump Administration has made it easier for Americans to be tested for COVID-19 while ensuring they are not burdened by the costs for testing services. To expand coverage and payment for testing, CMS has: • Quickly implemented recently enacted legislation that removed barriers to testing in Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and private insurance, and increased funding to Medicare providers for testing of uninsured individuals. • Ensured Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP beneficiaries can receive COVID-19 tests without cost sharing. • Clarified that Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP coverage of COVID-19 tests includes serology or antibody tests. • Allowed Medicaid and Medicare to pay for certain COVID-19 tests without a physician order. • Nearly doubled payment in Medicare for certain lab tests using high-throughput technologies that can process more than 200 specimens a day to appropriately pay laboratories to rapidly diagnose large numbers of COVID-19 tests. To ensure availability and timeliness of testing, CMS has: • Extended Medicare payment to laboratories to collect COVID-19 lab specimens from certain people at home or in other community settings in certain circumstances, and gave states greater flexibility to cover COVID-19 tests administered in alternate locations in Medicaid. 6/12/2020 3 • Allowed healthcare facilities like pharmacies to set up drive-through COVID-19 testing stations. • Expedited reviews of applications for lab certification, ensuring that labs are able to begin testing as quickly as possible to meet consumer needs. • Developed new billing codes and offered guidance on additional billing codes developed by the American Medical Association for COVID-19 lab tests that allow for better tracking of the public health response to this virus. Provided State and Local Flexibility The Trump Administration has taken swift action to provide state Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Programs (CHIP) with much needed flexibility to better address the coronavirus pandemic locally to meet their population’s needs. CMS has: • Rapidly approved Medicaid emergency waivers (section 1135 waivers) for all 50 states as well as the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. • Permitted state Medicaid programs to pay providers from other states for care delivered during the public health emergency, increasing the number of practitioners available to serve beneficiaries. • Allowed states to enroll eligible beneficiaries more quickly in programs that care for the elderly and people with disabilities, and to make changes to state rules to enhance access and delivery of services for the vulnerable populations in home and community-based settings. • Approved emergency information technology funding for certain states to enhance the systems that support Medicaid healthcare providers, patients, and state staff to ensure they have the resources they need to address the crisis. • Fostered acceleration of broader telehealth coverage policies and payment by issuing new guidance on telehealth opportunities, outlining ways that states can remove barriers to telehealth, and rapidly approving state requests for emergency waivers and funding. • Developed a toolkit to expedite the application and approval of Medicaid waivers and State Plan Amendments in order to approve new state requests in record time. • Updated regulations to allow more flexibility for Medicaid home health services, Medicaid lab services, and in the Basic Health Program. Bolstered the Healthcare Workforce The Trump Administration expanded the healthcare workforce to better care for COVID-19 patients by removing barriers for physicians, nurses, and other clinicians to be readily hired from the local community or other states, and by cutting red tape so that health professionals can practice at the top of their license. CMS has: • Temporarily waived Medicare supervision requirements for non-physician clinicians so nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and nurse anesthetists can practice at the top of their licenses and across state lines. • Increased care capacity by allowing additional healthcare providers to enroll in Medicare temporarily to provide care during the public health emergency. 6/12/2020 4 • Allowed nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and clinical nurse specialists to order home health services paid for by Medicare and Medicaid, and to certify/recertify patient eligibility for home healthcare, which would normally have to be approved by doctors. • Allowed physical and occupational therapists to delegate maintenance therapy services to physical and occupational therapy assistants in outpatient settings. • Permitted wider use of verbal orders rather than written orders so clinicians can focus more of their time taking care of patients instead of on paperwork. • Provided continued payments to teaching hospitals that shift residents to other hospitals to meet COVID-related needs, instead of penalizing teaching hospitals that lend residents and nonteaching hospitals that accept these residents. • Waived regulations so that hospitals can now support their medical staff by providing benefits like daily meals, laundry services, or child care services while they are on duty. • Waived a requirement for hospitals and ambulatory surgery centers to review medical staff privileges during the COVID-19 emergency declaration, allowing physicians and other practitioners with expiring privileges to continue taking care of patients. • Provided new flexibilities and made adjustments to current and future CMS Innovation Center models, including by revising the implementation dates for future models and shifting various deadlines for current models, giving model participants additional time to transition to valuebased care. Put Patients Over Paperwork In its continued commitment to Patients over Paperwork, the Trump Administration has reduced regulatory and reporting requirements during the pandemic, allowing providers to focus on patient care and addressing the coronavirus crisis. CMS has: • Temporarily eliminated certain paperwork requirements such as signature and proof of delivery for Part B drugs and durable medical equipment, and submission of certain forms for home oxygen therapy and infusion pumps. • Adjusted audit schedules for Medicare Advantage, Part D plans, and Programs of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly (PACE) organizations and modified the calculation of the 2021 and 2022 Medicare Advantage and Part D Star Ratings to reflect how the pandemic has changed health care delivery. • Paused the requirement for hospitals to have written policies and processes on visitation of patients who are in COVID-19 isolation, so that providers can spend more time on patient care. • Allowed more time for hospitals to provide patients a copy of their medical records. • Allowed more diabetic patients to monitor their glucose and adjust insulin doses at home by waiving certain clinical criteria for therapeutic continuous glucose monitors. • Paused prior authorization for certain items and services, including durable medical equipment, during the public health emergency so providers can act quickly to provide time-sensitive care to beneficiaries. • Established toll-free hotlines for providers to get quick answers on billing and clinical coverage as they work to use the flexibilities CMS provided. 6/12/2020 5 6/12/2020 • Extended some current providers’ certification to bill Medicare and Medicaid, waived certain screening requirements for new providers, and expedited new applications to accelerate the process for new providers joining the Medicare program to ensure beneficiaries have access to treatment. • Waived certain provisions in the physician self-referral law (also known as the “Stark Law”) to permit activities such as allowing healthcare providers to support each other financially to avoid issues with continuity of operations, such as loss of staff or clinic closures, related to the COVID-19 emergency. • Provided additional flexibility to issuers offering coverage on the federal Exchange platform to allow them to extend premium payment deadlines and delay coverage terminations to help individuals maintain Exchange coverage who may be experiencing difficulty paying their premium due to a loss of income. Increased Capacity through Hospitals Without Walls The Trump Administration has ensured that local hospitals and health systems have the capacity to handle and safely treat COVID-19 patients through temporary expansion sites (also known as the CMS Hospital Without Walls initiative). CMS has: • Enhanced hospital capacity to manage COVID-19 surges by allowing hospitals to transfer patients to alternative care sites, such as ambulatory surgery centers, inpatient rehabilitation hospitals, converted hotels, and dormitories. • Allowed Community Mental Health Centers to offer partial hospitalization and other mental health services to clients in the safety of their homes. • Allowed non-skilled nursing facility (SNF) buildings that are state-approved to be temporarily certified as and available for use by a SNF in the event there are needs for isolation processes for COVID-19 positive residents. • Issued emergency loan funding to healthcare providers through accelerated and advance Medicare payments to address cash flow issues due to disruption in claims submissions, the loss of elective surgeries, and processing disruptions caused by

That list might be more impressive if 75% of it wasn't things like "created a toll free number to call"... or "allowed people to check their glucose levels at home"... that list is just a basic list that would occur under any administration. If there are any real ground breaking accomplishments in that paragraph barren list, its lost among all the standard everyday stuff that already occurs regardless of who is president.
 
That list might be more impressive if 75% of it wasn't things like "created a toll free number to call"... or "allowed people to check their glucose levels at home"... that list is just a basic list that would occur under any administration. If there are any real ground breaking accomplishments in that paragraph barren list, its lost among all the standard everyday stuff that already occurs regardless of who is president.

the first 40 lines are just “expanded telehealth” which is commendable but not exactly innovative given the market had been moving there quickly pre-COVID

not a lot of meat in that list
 
Precisely what vaccine is "available" (not in development, not in trials) for actual use? Name it and show folks getting shots? My doc doesn't know of one. Does yours? Trump is an idiot, a national embarassement just like your posts. You lost the election. You've been punked. Own it.

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Name one thing the Obama/Biden administration left for the Trump adminstration that was available for immediate use and in sufficient quantities to be effective.
 
For anyone who's forgotten, here's a partial list of Trunp's comments on the virus:

When: Thursday, February 27
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”

When: Multiple times
The claim: “Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”
The truth: When Trump made these claims in May, coronavirus cases were either increasing or plateauing in the majority of American states. Over the summer, the country saw a second surge even greater than its first in the spring.

When: Wednesday, June 17
The claim: The pandemic is “fading away. It’s going to fade away.”
The truth: Trump made this claim ahead of his rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, when the country was still seeing at least 20,000 new daily cases and a second spike in infections was beginning.

When: Thursday, July 2
The claim: The pandemic is “getting under control.”
The truth: Trump’s claim came as the country’s daily cases doubled to about 50,000, a higher count than was seen at the beginning of the pandemic, and as the number continued to rise, fueled by infections in the South and the West.

When: Saturday, July 4
The claim: “99%” of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless.”
The truth: The virus can still cause tremendous suffering if it doesn’t kill a patient, and the WHO has said that about 15 percent of COVID-19 cases can be severe, with 5 percent being critical. Fauci has rejected Trump’s claim, saying the evidence shows that the virus “can make you seriously ill” even if it doesn’t kill you.

When: Monday, July 6
The claim: “We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World.”
The truth: The U.S. had neither the lowest mortality rate nor the lowest case-fatality rate when Trump made this claim. As of July 13, the case-fatality rate—the ratio of deaths to confirmed COVID-19 cases—was 4.1 percent, which placed the U.S. solidly in the middle of global rankings. At the time, it had the world’s ninth-worst mortality rate, with 41.33 deaths per 100,000 people, according to Johns Hopkins University.

I could go on, but why? Anybody who's been paying attention these past few months knows The Donald's leadership during the time of Covid has not been good,
Doesn’t change the fact he shut the borders while Biden opposed. He facilitated the development of a vaccine in record time. You focus on words or action ? #warpspeed.
 
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Doesn’t change the fact he shut the borders while Biden opposed. He facilitated the development of a vaccine in record time. You focus words or action ? #warpspeed.
He didn't fascilitate anything. That's a myth.
 
A pandemic playbook and 16k+ ventilators...
Oh a playbook. Wow. That was really useful without supplies. And the ventilators were useless and broken. Obama had three years to resupply the stock he depleted and didn't do it. That's a complete and utter failure of supply mgmt. Everyone knows that you reorder when supplies are taken from the shelf. But Obama and Biden didn't do squat. But they left a book. Give me a break. Total incompetence.
 
Was president during the pandemic. Imagine if Biden or any den was president. Herd immunity would be achieved before a vaccine. Remember how they mocked Trump when he said a vaccine would available by years end ? . The “experts” were way off on their timeline. We won’t hear anyone acknowledge they were wrong on the timeline. Nor will any media outlets give Trump credit. We see leaders taking credit for things they had no impact on but Trump absolutely facilitated the the incredible timeframe for these vaccines. As far as the spread, this virus is going to do what viruses do. Trump closed the border in the beginning and was attacked for that. Once the virus was here, People are going to do what they do. There would be no difference in the spread regardless of who’s president. The real mismanagement impacting the spread was Cuomo’s nursing home fiasco. If we can get folks vaccinated, looks like the mortality rate. Is going to be about what experts projected as best case in the beginning, In spite of mismanagement of nursing homes. Closing the borders and expediting the vaccine will ultimately save countless lives.
 
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Oh a playbook. Wow. That was really useful without supplies. And the ventilators were useless and broken. Obama had three years to resupply the stock he depleted and didn't do it. That's a complete and utter failure of supply mgmt. Everyone knows that you reorder when supplies are taken from the shelf. But Obama and Biden didn't do squat. But they left a book. Give me a break. Total incompetence.


interesting....so what did Trump and his team do once he took office? Did he replenish anticipating a pandemic? Plenty of blame to go around but tell the entire story if you are going to talk about the old line he spouts "we inherited bare cabinets".....
 
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For anyone who has forgotten(or ignored) all of the Trump admin has done, here is a partial list.

CMS COVID-19 Accomplishments Expanded Telehealth in Medicare Under the leadership of President Trump, Americans now have access to broader telehealth services, ensuring access to care while reducing the risk of COVID-19 exposure for both patients and healthcare providers. In Medicare, CMS has: • Expanded telehealth coverage to people living in all areas of the country so that beneficiaries living in both rural and urban settings can get care from their home rather than unnecessarily traveling to their doctor’s office. • Expanded the types of services patients can receive via telehealth, such as emergency department visits, initial nursing facility and discharge visits, home visits, critical care visits, radiation treatment management, therapeutic exercise, prosthetic training, assistive technology assessments, group psychotherapy, and end-stage renal disease care. • Expanded Medicare payment for telehealth services to allow routine office visits, preventive health screenings, mental health counseling, and care that ordinarily would require a trip to an outpatient clinic or hospital emergency room to be provided wherever the patient is located, including in their home. • Allowed telecommunications technologies to be used in lieu of in-person services across many settings of care, like home health, nursing homes, and hospice. • Expanded the types of healthcare providers that can provide telehealth services to include rural health clinics, federally qualified health clinics, physical therapists, occupational therapists, and others. • Expanded the scope of separately billable services that allow Medicare physicians to speak with patients virtually, by phone or video, rather than in person in order to prevent risk of infection. • Added payment for services of physicians and practitioners who treat patients over the phone to meet the needs of Medicare beneficiaries who may not have access to interactive audio/video technology. • Authorized Medicare Advantage plans to offer expanded telehealth coverage in urban and rural areas to meet the needs of their enrollees. Ensured Safety and Quality in Nursing Homes The Trump Administration is making data-driven decisions to protect nursing home residents and employees from COVID-19. CMS has: • Issued a call to action for nursing homes and state and local governments to work together to determine their needs for COVID-19 testing and personal protective equipment as well as designate certain treatment sites exclusively for COVID-19-positive or COVID-19-negative patients to avoid further transmissions. • Announced a new, independent Commission to conduct a comprehensive assessment of nursing homes’ responses to the pandemic and inform CMS decisions on threats to resident safety and public health. • Issued guidance on limiting visitors and nonessential healthcare personnel at nursing homes, except in compassionate care and end of life situations, to prevent transmission of the 2019 novel coronavirus. 1 6/12/2020 2 • Provided clear guidance on infection control and how to prepare the nation’s healthcare facilities for the COVID-19 threat, including procedures for screening and the use of personal protective equipment (PPE). • Increased surveillance and transparency by requiring all 15,417 Medicare and Medicaid nursing homes to report cases of COVID-19 to all residents, their families, and the CDC. • Conducted over 7,000 investigations of patient health and safety in nursing homes nationwide since March, prioritizing infection control and situations in which residents are in immediate jeopardy for serious injury or death. • Temporarily waived the requirement for 3-day prior hospitalization for coverage of nursing home stays, extended training requirement deadlines, and allowed facilities to transfer or discharge residents in order to group residents based on their COVID-19 status. • Released a toolkit that is updated regularly with recommendations and best practices to address the specific challenges facing nursing homes as they combat COVID-19. • Announced recommendations to ensure the safe reopening of nursing homes across the country, detailing critical steps nursing homes, communities, and states should take before relaxing restrictions implemented to prevent the spread of COVID-19. • Published data showing the incidence of COVID-19 in nursing homes, as well as the results of the agency’s targeted infection control inspections including the individual facilities’ survey results. • Increased enforcement (e.g., civil money penalties) for facilities with persistent infection control violations, and imposed enforcement actions on lower level infection control deficiencies to ensure they are addressed with increased gravity. Expanded Access to and Payment for Testing The Trump Administration has made it easier for Americans to be tested for COVID-19 while ensuring they are not burdened by the costs for testing services. To expand coverage and payment for testing, CMS has: • Quickly implemented recently enacted legislation that removed barriers to testing in Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and private insurance, and increased funding to Medicare providers for testing of uninsured individuals. • Ensured Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP beneficiaries can receive COVID-19 tests without cost sharing. • Clarified that Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP coverage of COVID-19 tests includes serology or antibody tests. • Allowed Medicaid and Medicare to pay for certain COVID-19 tests without a physician order. • Nearly doubled payment in Medicare for certain lab tests using high-throughput technologies that can process more than 200 specimens a day to appropriately pay laboratories to rapidly diagnose large numbers of COVID-19 tests. To ensure availability and timeliness of testing, CMS has: • Extended Medicare payment to laboratories to collect COVID-19 lab specimens from certain people at home or in other community settings in certain circumstances, and gave states greater flexibility to cover COVID-19 tests administered in alternate locations in Medicaid. 6/12/2020 3 • Allowed healthcare facilities like pharmacies to set up drive-through COVID-19 testing stations. • Expedited reviews of applications for lab certification, ensuring that labs are able to begin testing as quickly as possible to meet consumer needs. • Developed new billing codes and offered guidance on additional billing codes developed by the American Medical Association for COVID-19 lab tests that allow for better tracking of the public health response to this virus. Provided State and Local Flexibility The Trump Administration has taken swift action to provide state Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Programs (CHIP) with much needed flexibility to better address the coronavirus pandemic locally to meet their population’s needs. CMS has: • Rapidly approved Medicaid emergency waivers (section 1135 waivers) for all 50 states as well as the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. • Permitted state Medicaid programs to pay providers from other states for care delivered during the public health emergency, increasing the number of practitioners available to serve beneficiaries. • Allowed states to enroll eligible beneficiaries more quickly in programs that care for the elderly and people with disabilities, and to make changes to state rules to enhance access and delivery of services for the vulnerable populations in home and community-based settings. • Approved emergency information technology funding for certain states to enhance the systems that support Medicaid healthcare providers, patients, and state staff to ensure they have the resources they need to address the crisis. • Fostered acceleration of broader telehealth coverage policies and payment by issuing new guidance on telehealth opportunities, outlining ways that states can remove barriers to telehealth, and rapidly approving state requests for emergency waivers and funding. • Developed a toolkit to expedite the application and approval of Medicaid waivers and State Plan Amendments in order to approve new state requests in record time. • Updated regulations to allow more flexibility for Medicaid home health services, Medicaid lab services, and in the Basic Health Program. Bolstered the Healthcare Workforce The Trump Administration expanded the healthcare workforce to better care for COVID-19 patients by removing barriers for physicians, nurses, and other clinicians to be readily hired from the local community or other states, and by cutting red tape so that health professionals can practice at the top of their license. CMS has: • Temporarily waived Medicare supervision requirements for non-physician clinicians so nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and nurse anesthetists can practice at the top of their licenses and across state lines. • Increased care capacity by allowing additional healthcare providers to enroll in Medicare temporarily to provide care during the public health emergency. 6/12/2020 4 • Allowed nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and clinical nurse specialists to order home health services paid for by Medicare and Medicaid, and to certify/recertify patient eligibility for home healthcare, which would normally have to be approved by doctors. • Allowed physical and occupational therapists to delegate maintenance therapy services to physical and occupational therapy assistants in outpatient settings. • Permitted wider use of verbal orders rather than written orders so clinicians can focus more of their time taking care of patients instead of on paperwork. • Provided continued payments to teaching hospitals that shift residents to other hospitals to meet COVID-related needs, instead of penalizing teaching hospitals that lend residents and nonteaching hospitals that accept these residents. • Waived regulations so that hospitals can now support their medical staff by providing benefits like daily meals, laundry services, or child care services while they are on duty. • Waived a requirement for hospitals and ambulatory surgery centers to review medical staff privileges during the COVID-19 emergency declaration, allowing physicians and other practitioners with expiring privileges to continue taking care of patients. • Provided new flexibilities and made adjustments to current and future CMS Innovation Center models, including by revising the implementation dates for future models and shifting various deadlines for current models, giving model participants additional time to transition to valuebased care. Put Patients Over Paperwork In its continued commitment to Patients over Paperwork, the Trump Administration has reduced regulatory and reporting requirements during the pandemic, allowing providers to focus on patient care and addressing the coronavirus crisis. CMS has: • Temporarily eliminated certain paperwork requirements such as signature and proof of delivery for Part B drugs and durable medical equipment, and submission of certain forms for home oxygen therapy and infusion pumps. • Adjusted audit schedules for Medicare Advantage, Part D plans, and Programs of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly (PACE) organizations and modified the calculation of the 2021 and 2022 Medicare Advantage and Part D Star Ratings to reflect how the pandemic has changed health care delivery. • Paused the requirement for hospitals to have written policies and processes on visitation of patients who are in COVID-19 isolation, so that providers can spend more time on patient care. • Allowed more time for hospitals to provide patients a copy of their medical records. • Allowed more diabetic patients to monitor their glucose and adjust insulin doses at home by waiving certain clinical criteria for therapeutic continuous glucose monitors. • Paused prior authorization for certain items and services, including durable medical equipment, during the public health emergency so providers can act quickly to provide time-sensitive care to beneficiaries. • Established toll-free hotlines for providers to get quick answers on billing and clinical coverage as they work to use the flexibilities CMS provided. 6/12/2020 5 6/12/2020 • Extended some current providers’ certification to bill Medicare and Medicaid, waived certain screening requirements for new providers, and expedited new applications to accelerate the process for new providers joining the Medicare program to ensure beneficiaries have access to treatment. • Waived certain provisions in the physician self-referral law (also known as the “Stark Law”) to permit activities such as allowing healthcare providers to support each other financially to avoid issues with continuity of operations, such as loss of staff or clinic closures, related to the COVID-19 emergency. • Provided additional flexibility to issuers offering coverage on the federal Exchange platform to allow them to extend premium payment deadlines and delay coverage terminations to help individuals maintain Exchange coverage who may be experiencing difficulty paying their premium due to a loss of income. Increased Capacity through Hospitals Without Walls The Trump Administration has ensured that local hospitals and health systems have the capacity to handle and safely treat COVID-19 patients through temporary expansion sites (also known as the CMS Hospital Without Walls initiative). CMS has: • Enhanced hospital capacity to manage COVID-19 surges by allowing hospitals to transfer patients to alternative care sites, such as ambulatory surgery centers, inpatient rehabilitation hospitals, converted hotels, and dormitories. • Allowed Community Mental Health Centers to offer partial hospitalization and other mental health services to clients in the safety of their homes. • Allowed non-skilled nursing facility (SNF) buildings that are state-approved to be temporarily certified as and available for use by a SNF in the event there are needs for isolation processes for COVID-19 positive residents. • Issued emergency loan funding to healthcare providers through accelerated and advance Medicare payments to address cash flow issues due to disruption in claims submissions, the loss of elective surgeries, and processing disruptions caused by




I encourage all to watch the documentary Totally Under Control regarding the pandemic. It's always nice to see BOTH sides of the story and then assess opinions. I can say I'm grateful for Trump and his pushing for therapeutics and a vaccine and allowing the FDA to do their jobs. I cannot say I'm grateful for him politicizing public health or allowing Jared to hire 20 year old volunteers with personal laptops to procure PPE from China. I'll never forget the day I made call after call begging for tests for my Dad. Begging for PPE for his rehab facility. This was toward the end of April. I guess until you lose a loved one to this or are directly impacted, it is business as usual for many. No regard or respect for fellow man has become the norm with conspiracy theories, flu stats, mortality rates and all sorts of things tossed around from people with zero lack of knowledge in the viral/scientific/medical field. I'm really hoping 2021 brings us new leadership and less division no matter what side of the aisle we are on. We deserve to wake up and not read divisive bullying lies via twitter from our President. And yes, I am certain in 5-4-3-2-1 I will be called countless names in reply to this....
 
interesting....so what did Trump and his team do once he took office? Did he replenish anticipating a pandemic? Plenty of blame to go around but tell the entire story if you are going to talk about the old line he spouts "we inherited bare cabinets".....
He did inherit bare cabinets in more than just the health care, how about our military?
 
Oh a playbook. Wow. That was really useful without supplies. And the ventilators were useless and broken. Obama had three years to resupply the stock he depleted and didn't do it. That's a complete and utter failure of supply mgmt. Everyone knows that you reorder when supplies are taken from the shelf. But Obama and Biden didn't do squat. But they left a book. Give me a break. Total incompetence.


A little discussion of how not to do things as demonstrated by Trump. That's what we mean by "total incompetence".

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that there were no useable supplies. Now if Trump became President in Jan, 2020 he wouldn't have had time to do anything, but it was Jan, 2017 so plenty of time. Now he didn't necessarily have to get involved himself, but he could have appointed competent people. As time goes on, we find more and more that wasn't the case. And in reality it wouldn't have done anything for him if nothing happened, so we know he didn't care one bit about it. Also, it involved that nasty word science and we don't want to have anything to do with that. His feeble and ineffective effects after COVID appeared have been documented here over and over.

Just more lack of responsibility. But keep filing those useless lawsuits.
 
interesting....so what did Trump and his team do once he took office? Did he replenish anticipating a pandemic? Plenty of blame to go around but tell the entire story if you are going to talk about the old line he spouts "we inherited bare cabinets".....
Oh sure. Trump comes in office, is immediately met with an investigation and baseless allegations. Democrats, won't approve his cabinet or appointments (still haven't approved some). They Fight him at every turn and you expect him to go look at the pandemic supply room that the prior administration had three years to resupply? You're kidding right. His first priority was rebuilding the depleted military that Obama left without ammo. And that was the most important choice. The depleted pandemic supplies were the direct responsibility of the lifetime bureaucrats in charge. And I'm sure they put in the orders and were denied by Obama. Obama was working on more important stuff, $65 million dollar book deals, sending billions to Iran, and allowing Isis to flourish in the Middle East while his VP was making personal deals with Ukraine, Russia and China. Are you going to give Biden credit for operation warpspeed? What if Trump decides to end the contracts? Would it Trumps fault or Bidens? Get real. There is no company that would put up with the incompetence of the Obama administration. Do you really think Biden would be able to mobilize private industry and cut through red tape like Trump?
 

A little discussion of how not to do things as demonstrated by Trump. That's what we mean by "total incompetence".

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that there were no useable supplies. Now if Trump became President in Jan, 2020 he wouldn't have had time to do anything, but it was Jan, 2017 so plenty of time. Now he didn't necessarily have to get involved himself, but he could have appointed competent people. As time goes on, we find more and more that wasn't the case. And in reality it wouldn't have done anything for him if nothing happened, so we know he didn't care one bit about it. Also, it involved that nasty word science and we don't want to have anything to do with that. His feeble and ineffective effects after COVID appeared have been documented here over and over.

Just more lack of responsibility. But keep filing those useless lawsuits.
That's a BS report and you know it. Those people never left, they just consolidated offices. That was debunked years ago.
 
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Oh sure. Trump comes in office, is immediately met with an investigation and baseless allegations. Democrats, won't approve his cabinet or appointments (still haven't approved some). They Fight him at every turn and you expect him to go look at the pandemic supply room that the prior administration had three years to resupply? You're kidding right. His first priority was rebuilding the depleted military that Obama left without ammo. And that was the most important choice. The depleted pandemic supplies were the direct responsibility of the lifetime bureaucrats in charge. And I'm sure they put in the orders and were denied by Obama. Obama was working on more important stuff, $65 million dollar book deals, sending billions to Iran, and allowing Isis to flourish in the Middle East while his VP was making personal deals with Ukraine, Russia and China. Are you going to give Biden credit for operation warpspeed? What if Trump decides to end the contracts? Would it Trumps fault or Bidens? Get real. There is no company that would put up with the incompetence of the Obama administration. Do you really think Biden would be able to mobilize private industry and cut through red tape like Trump?
No because he will have to get permission from the CCP!
 
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That's a BS report and you know it. Those people never left, they just consolidated offices. That was debunked years ago.

OK, show me where it was debunked. More importantly, show me where the supplies were replaced as I mentioned. And don't give me the same crap reply you made above to someone else. I didn't expect Trump to go in the storeroom himself. You're just being silly.
 
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Oh sure. Trump comes in office, is immediately met with an investigation and baseless allegations. Democrats, won't approve his cabinet or appointments (still haven't approved some). They Fight him at every turn and you expect him to go look at the pandemic supply room that the prior administration had three years to resupply? You're kidding right. His first priority was rebuilding the depleted military that Obama left without ammo. And that was the most important choice. The depleted pandemic supplies were the direct responsibility of the lifetime bureaucrats in charge. And I'm sure they put in the orders and were denied by Obama. Obama was working on more important stuff, $65 million dollar book deals, sending billions to Iran, and allowing Isis to flourish in the Middle East while his VP was making personal deals with Ukraine, Russia and China. Are you going to give Biden credit for operation warpspeed? What if Trump decides to end the contracts? Would it Trumps fault or Bidens? Get real. There is no company that would put up with the incompetence of the Obama administration. Do you really think Biden would be able to mobilize private industry and cut through red tape like Trump?
Senate approves the Cabinet, of which has been majority Republican Trump’s entire term. First two years he also had the House. Hard to blame democrats when they were not in control.
 
Was president during the pandemic. Imagine if Biden or any den was president. Herd immunity would be achieved before a vaccine. Remember how they mocked Trump when he said a vaccine would available by years end ? . The “experts” were way off on their timeline. We won’t hear anyone acknowledge they were wrong on the timeline. Nor will any media outlets give Trump credit. We see leaders taking credit for things they had no impact on but Trump absolutely facilitated the the incredible timeframe for these vaccines. As far as the spread, this virus is going to do what viruses do. Trump closed the border in the beginning and was attacked for that. Once the virus was here, People are going to do what they do. There would be no difference in the spread regardless of who’s president. The real mismanagement impacting the spread was Cuomo’s nursing home fiasco. If we can get folks vaccinated, looks like the mortality rate. Is going to be about what experts projected as best case in the beginning, In spite of mismanagement of nursing homes. Closing the borders and expediting the vaccine will ultimately save countless lives.
Brother, you have been brainwashed. Trump handled the pandemic worse than any leader on this planet.
 
Senate approves the Cabinet, of which has been majority Republican Trump’s entire term. First two years he also had the House. Hard to blame democrats when they were not in control.
The democrats used varying tactics to obstruct and deny Trump from bringing certain appts forward. I wasn't really talking about cabinet level. By March 2018 only 392 of Trumps nominees were confirmed, 150 lower than Obama.
 
OK, show me where it was debunked. More importantly, show me where the supplies were replaced as I mentioned. And don't give me the same crap reply you made above to someone else. I didn't expect Trump to go in the storeroom himself. You're just being silly.
That article is an opinion piece and I don't do them. Trump expected the supplies to be there obviously. After all he received a playbook. When they were needed he found crap, The tests were useless, the ventilators were not all up to date and the PPE was depleted. Those are facts. Not an opinion. Obama failed to update those supplies and by the way Trump was operating under Obama's last budget his first year in office.
 
Trump lost the election over Covid, Cuomo could be elected president because of Covid.

surely you’ll disagree w this article because it’s not from OAN.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/cuomo-new-york-coronavirus/615352/
I don't give a damn who wrote a puff piece on Cuomo. He killed more people than any leader in the world, period. Ask Janice Dean,the weather lady from Fox who was non partisan and maybe a democrat until Cuomo killed her parents. Anyone who says he did and is doing a great job has rocks for brains. He sent Covid patients to nursing homes instead of empty hospitals.
 
The democrats used varying tactics to obstruct and deny Trump from bringing certain appts forward. I wasn't really talking about cabinet level. By March 2018 only 392 of Trumps nominees were confirmed, 150 lower than Obama.
Sub-cabinet, still the Senate. They approve most everything that requires approval.

Tell me more about those varying tactics the minority party used that obstructed and denied Trump, overcoming a Republican-controlled Senate. Sounds interesting. I just thought they had to vote on party lines.

as for your numbers, sounds like he had less because he wasn’t trying to fill all the positions

Following President Trump's election, there were around 4,000 political appointment positions which the incoming Trump administration needed to review, and fill or confirm, of which 1,212 required Senate confirmation. The Washington Post has identified 757 key positions requiring U.S. Senate confirmation. As of September 8, 2020, 531 of Trump's nominees for key positions had been confirmed, 97 were awaiting confirmation, and 13 had been announced but not yet formally nominated, a total of 639 positions. Trump has said he intends not to fill many of the positions.

So of the 150 lower than Obama that you claim. Trump said he wasn’t tying to fill 200. He was using other methods.

 
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Oh sure. Trump comes in office, is immediately met with an investigation and baseless allegations. Democrats, won't approve his cabinet or appointments (still haven't approved some). They Fight him at every turn and you expect him to go look at the pandemic supply room that the prior administration had three years to resupply? You're kidding right. His first priority was rebuilding the depleted military that Obama left without ammo. And that was the most important choice. The depleted pandemic supplies were the direct responsibility of the lifetime bureaucrats in charge. And I'm sure they put in the orders and were denied by Obama. Obama was working on more important stuff, $65 million dollar book deals, sending billions to Iran, and allowing Isis to flourish in the Middle East while his VP was making personal deals with Ukraine, Russia and China. Are you going to give Biden credit for operation warpspeed? What if Trump decides to end the contracts? Would it Trumps fault or Bidens? Get real. There is no company that would put up with the incompetence of the Obama administration. Do you really think Biden would be able to mobilize private industry and cut through red tape like Trump?
You mean bureaucrats like Cuomo who was told he needed ventilators but then misappropriated funds earmarked to purchase them.
 
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They Fight him at every turn and you expect him to go look at the pandemic supply room that the prior administration had three years to resupply? You're kidding right. His first priority was rebuilding the depleted military that Obama left without ammo. And that was the most important choice. The depleted pandemic supplies were the direct responsibility of the lifetime bureaucrats in charge. And I'm sure they put in the orders and were denied by Obama.
You mean Trump had 3 years to restock the National stockpile, right? Because he did...

And how was the military depleted? Obama’s last budget spent $600M on the military. His last 4 years in office we spent $2.7T vs $2.9T for Trump...dude, Trump lies and you fell for it hook line and sinker...
 
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You mean Trump had 3 years to restock the National stockpile, right? Because he did...

And how was the military depleted? Obama’s last budget spent $600M on the military. His last 4 years in office we spent $2.7T vs $2.9T for Trump...dude, Trump lies and you fell for it hook line and sinker...
Why were we taking parts off junk planes to keep the remaining planes in service? Odom our was to busy kissing Aran’s ass to look after our country.
 
Sub-cabinet, still the Senate. They approve most everything that requires approval.

Tell me more about those varying tactics the minority party used that obstructed and denied Trump, overcoming a Republican-controlled Senate. Sounds interesting. I just thought they had to vote on party lines.

as for your numbers, sounds like he had less because he wasn’t trying to fill all the positions

Following President Trump's election, there were around 4,000 political appointment positions which the incoming Trump administration needed to review, and fill or confirm, of which 1,212 required Senate confirmation. The Washington Post has identified 757 key positions requiring U.S. Senate confirmation. As of September 8, 2020, 531 of Trump's nominees for key positions had been confirmed, 97 were awaiting confirmation, and 13 had been announced but not yet formally nominated, a total of 639 positions. Trump has said he intends not to fill many of the positions.

So of the 150 lower than Obama that you claim. Trump said he wasn’t tying to fill 200. He was using other methods.

My numbers were as of March 2018 what good are appts in 2020? Your post just shows how Trump was able to get around those obstructionist Dems.
 
Why were we taking parts off junk planes to keep the remaining planes in service? Odom our was to busy kissing Aran’s ass to look after our country.
They’ve been doing it since the 1950s and it saves us tax payers $500M a year...they haven’t stopped since Trump was President either...next!
 
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