the enemy is among us

[jenkinscreekdawg]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

 

[ZosoDawg]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

Another swing and a miss by this administration. Gun free zone = target rich environment.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

Exactly right, the problem is the enemy have an ally in the oval office. He and his wookie put out a message of praise to muslims hours after the shootings yesterday

 

[wayx]

And there are more streaming across the border every day.....all kinds of drug dealers, criminals, rapists,
and terrorists from all over the world who find the Mexican border as the easiest way to get into the U.S.

All greeted by a welcoming committee from the democrat party with leaflets telling them where they can find
sanctuary in liberal democrat controlled cities long enough to be legalized and where the nearest welfare and
voter registration office is once they are sworn in as citizens in the near future.......Really, Mr. drug dealer from
Mexico, don't laugh, that's not a fairy tale....that's a democrat party promise you can count on.

 

[HeulenHund2]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

Give it a rest.
The reason Military brass decided to stop having armed soldiers at recruiting stations was in response to The Fort Hood shootings. It didn't have one damn thing to do with being ''pc''.
It's fair to ask if it was a wise move, but you have unbalanced thinking on these subjects.

 

[ClyoDawg]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

The Chattanooga nutcase wasn't an illegal was he? I think he is some kind of Arab nut didn't he grow up in the USA?

 

[HeulenHund2]

And there are more streaming across the border every day.....all kinds of drug dealers, criminals, rapists,
and terrorists from all over the world who find the Mexican border as the easiest way to get into the U.S.

All greeted by a welcoming committee from the democrat party with leaflets telling them where they can find
sanctuary in liberal democrat controlled cities long enough to be legalized and where the nearest welfare and
voter registration office is once they are sworn in as citizens in the near future.......Really, Mr. drug dealer from
Mexico, don't laugh, that's not a fairy tale....that's a democrat party promise you can count on.

As the founder of Fox News Rupert Murdoch pointed out Wednesday. Immigrants from south of the border have lower crime rates than the average American and cities on the Mexican border have low crime rates. He pointed out El Paso Texas has the lowest violent crime rate in The U.S.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

As the founder of Fox News Rupert Murdoch pointed out Wednesday. Immigrants from south of the border have lower crime rates than the average American and cities on the Mexican border have low crime rates. He pointed out El Paso Texas has the lowest violent crime rate in The U.S.

Well then it must be true??? Then explain why almost 30% of the prison population are ILLEGALS??

 

[jenkinscreekdawg]

The Chattanooga nutcase wasn't an illegal was he? I think he is some kind of Arab nut didn't he grow up in the USA?

clyo, that's not the point , the point is this PC crap is going to get even more people killed . we don't really know who's coming across the border, and don't seem to care . prez now wants to let convicts go from our prisons ,and is doing so, because HE doesn't like their sentence , HUH ! i understand a large number of prisoners are mooslim converts . as for gitmo, letting prisoners go because of a campaign promise, is crazy . we all now know that a percentage will return to terrorism . this " LA LA LAND " crap is not realistic, under the current circumstances .

 

[ZosoDawg]

That is completely made up, just like Trump's lies.
The closest official numbers had 90.000 total foreign born prisoners in US prisoners in 2013. That is EVERY foreign born person from anywhere in the world, legal or non-legal.
That is just around 4% of the total prison population.
As far as Mexicans born outside this country, their crime rate is listed at 0.7%. That is roughly 1/4 the rate of native born Americans.
Also every city bordering Mexico has lower than average crime rates.

You read these right wing-nut web sites and you think you know something. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.

"Also every city bordering Mexico has lower than average crime rates."

You are completely full of it. Ever heard of BrownsvilleTx? On a scale of 1 to 100, with 100 being the safest city, they are a 10.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tx/brownsville/crime/

 

[ZosoDawg]

That is completely made up, just like Trump's lies.
The closest official numbers had 90.000 total foreign born prisoners in US prisoners in 2013. That is EVERY foreign born person from anywhere in the world, legal or non-legal.
That is just around 4% of the total prison population.
As far as Mexicans born outside this country, their crime rate is listed at 0.7%. That is roughly 1/4 the rate of native born Americans.
Also every city bordering Mexico has lower than average crime rates.

You read these right wing-nut web sites and you think you know something. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.

And here are a couple of more for you to show you just how safe our border is:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2014/08/06/doj-regions-near-mexico-border-most-crime-ridden-in-us/

http://www.criminaljusticedegreesgu...8-most-dangerous-border-towns-in-america.html

 

[HeulenHund2]

"Also every city bordering Mexico has lower than average crime rates."

You are completely full of it. Ever heard of BrownsvilleTx? On a scale of 1 to 100, with 100 being the safest city, they are a 10.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tx/brownsville/crime/

I just checked the official Neighborhood Watch site. Brownsville isn't even on their 100 most dangerous American Cities list for 2014. NO BORDER CITY MADE THE LIST..ZERO.
The FBI list Brownsville as having 1 murder in 100.000 in 2013, that is their lowest level on the chart. That means there was either 1 or 2 murders in Brownsville in 2013.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I just checked the official Neighborhood Watch site. Brownsville isn't even on their 100 most dangerous American Cities list for 2014. NO BORDER CITY MADE THE LIST..ZERO.
The FBI list Brownsville as having 1 murder in 100.000 in 2013, that is their lowest level on the chart. That means there was either 1 or 2 murders in Brownsville in 2013.

The crime that IS high in border towns is car theft, for obvious reasons. They steal them and drive them to Mexico. A Mexican was going to buy a truck from me in Colorado, When he learned it was under 10 years old he told me it is illegal to buy cars under 10 years old and take them across the border.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

I just checked the official Neighborhood Watch site. Brownsville isn't even on their 100 most dangerous American Cities list for 2014. NO BORDER CITY MADE THE LIST..ZERO.
The FBI list Brownsville as having 1 murder in 100.000 in 2013, that is their lowest level on the chart. That means there was either 1 or 2 murders in Brownsville in 2013.

Why do u want to downplay the hispanic crime in the country. List of Hispanic gangs in usa.

• 18th Street gang (Central Americans and Mexicans)
• Almighty Saints (Mostly Mexican)
• Association Ñeta (Puerto Rican)
• Barrio Azteca (Mexican)
• Cali Cartel (Colombian)
• Dominicans Don't Play (Dominican)
• Fresno Bulldogs (Mexican)
• Ghetto Brothers (Puerto Rican)
• Gulf Cartel (Mexican and Guatemalan)
• Jheri Curls (Dominican]])
• Juárez Cartel (Mexican)
• La Raza Nation (Mexican)
• Latin Eagles (Puerto Rican)
• Latin Kings (Puerto Rican and Mexican)
• Los Zetas (Mexican)
• Mara Salvatrucha (Salvadoran)
• Maniac Latin Disciples (Puerto Rican)
• Medellín Cartel (Colombian)
• Mexican Mafia (Mexican)
• MS-13 (Salvadoran)
• Ñetas (Puerto Rican)
• Norteños (Mexican)
• Nuestra Familia (Mexican)
• Playboyz (Hispanic)
• Puro Tango Blast (Hispanics and others)
• Sinaloa Cartel (Mexican)
• Spanish Gangster Disciples (Hispanics and others)
• Sureños (Mexican)
  • 38th Street gang
  • The Avenues
  • Clanton 14
  • Culver City Boys 13
  • El Monte Flores 13
  • Logan Heights Gang
  • Tooner Ville Rifa 13
  • Varrio Nuevo Estrada
  • Santa Monica 13
• Tijuana Cartel (Mexican)
• Trinitarios (Dominican)
• Marielitos (Cuban)

 

[ClyoDawg]

Why do u want to downplay the hispanic crime in the country. List of Hispanic gangs in usa.

• 18th Street gang (Central Americans and Mexicans)
• Almighty Saints (Mostly Mexican)
• Association Ñeta (Puerto Rican)
• Barrio Azteca (Mexican)
• Cali Cartel (Colombian)
• Dominicans Don't Play (Dominican)
• Fresno Bulldogs (Mexican)
• Ghetto Brothers (Puerto Rican)
• Gulf Cartel (Mexican and Guatemalan)
• Jheri Curls (Dominican]])
• Juárez Cartel (Mexican)
• La Raza Nation (Mexican)
• Latin Eagles (Puerto Rican)
• Latin Kings (Puerto Rican and Mexican)
• Los Zetas (Mexican)
• Mara Salvatrucha (Salvadoran)
• Maniac Latin Disciples (Puerto Rican)
• Medellín Cartel (Colombian)
• Mexican Mafia (Mexican)
• MS-13 (Salvadoran)
• Ñetas (Puerto Rican)
• Norteños (Mexican)
• Nuestra Familia (Mexican)
• Playboyz (Hispanic)
• Puro Tango Blast (Hispanics and others)
• Sinaloa Cartel (Mexican)
• Spanish Gangster Disciples (Hispanics and others)
• Sureños (Mexican)
  • 38th Street gang
  • The Avenues
  • Clanton 14
  • Culver City Boys 13
  • El Monte Flores 13
  • Logan Heights Gang
  • Tooner Ville Rifa 13
  • Varrio Nuevo Estrada
  • Santa Monica 13
• Tijuana Cartel (Mexican)
• Trinitarios (Dominican)
• Marielitos (Cuban)

Fresno Bulldogs are a college football team

 

[HeulenHund2]

Why do u want to downplay the hispanic crime in the country. List of Hispanic gangs in usa.

• 18th Street gang (Central Americans and Mexicans)
• Almighty Saints (Mostly Mexican)
• Association Ñeta (Puerto Rican)
• Barrio Azteca (Mexican)
• Cali Cartel (Colombian)
• Dominicans Don't Play (Dominican)
• Fresno Bulldogs (Mexican)
• Ghetto Brothers (Puerto Rican)
• Gulf Cartel (Mexican and Guatemalan)
• Jheri Curls (Dominican]])
• Juárez Cartel (Mexican)
• La Raza Nation (Mexican)
• Latin Eagles (Puerto Rican)
• Latin Kings (Puerto Rican and Mexican)
• Los Zetas (Mexican)
• Mara Salvatrucha (Salvadoran)
• Maniac Latin Disciples (Puerto Rican)
• Medellín Cartel (Colombian)
• Mexican Mafia (Mexican)
• MS-13 (Salvadoran)
• Ñetas (Puerto Rican)
• Norteños (Mexican)
• Nuestra Familia (Mexican)
• Playboyz (Hispanic)
• Puro Tango Blast (Hispanics and others)
• Sinaloa Cartel (Mexican)
• Spanish Gangster Disciples (Hispanics and others)
• Sureños (Mexican)
  • 38th Street gang
  • The Avenues
  • Clanton 14
  • Culver City Boys 13
  • El Monte Flores 13
  • Logan Heights Gang
  • Tooner Ville Rifa 13
  • Varrio Nuevo Estrada
  • Santa Monica 13
• Tijuana Cartel (Mexican)
• Trinitarios (Dominican)
• Marielitos (Cuban)

Statistics tell the bigger truths than just reviewing cases.
I'm all for fighting crime, regardless of the color or nationality of the perpetrators.
That is what bothers me about harping on the murder in S.F.
I agree the City made a mistake in not rounding that guy up, but all groups have a certain amount of criminals.
Statistics tell the real story.
I'm not insisting on taking up for Hispanics in any way but telling the truth.
I don't believe in making untrue and unfair charges.
They are less violent on average than many other groups in this country.
Of course the drug wars in Mexico are awful murderous deals.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Fresno Bulldogs are a college football team

They get their mascot from the same Arizona breeder Miss St gets theirs' from. It's called Hollywood Breeders, check out their site sometimes. I tried to get our AD to buy from him.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

One of the problems with mexicio and some central american countries is the age of consent is 12 years old. Thus there is more child sex crimes than with most. http://www.mrctv.org/blog/trump-under-fire-mexican-rapists-comments-he-isnt-wrong#.i7aq6g:Zl9Q

 

[ZosoDawg]

The crime that IS high in border towns is car theft, for obvious reasons. They steal them and drive them to Mexico. A Mexican was going to buy a truck from me in Colorado, When he learned it was under 10 years old he told me it is illegal to buy cars under 10 years old and take them across the border.

So I guess that since it is just car theft, it shouldn't really be included in crime stats? I mean after all, nobody died.

So let's discuss what a financial drain they are on this country and the fact that they cost every single family in America $1117 a year. Why should I (or you) be forced to absorb that cost when they are breaking the law illegally coming here? Why should I (or you) be forced to absorb that cost when the laws are on the books to stop them from coming here illegally, yet those laws are not being enforced?

 

[HeulenHund2]

So I guess that since it is just car theft, it shouldn't really be included in crime stats? I mean after all, nobody died.

So let's discuss what a financial drain they are on this country and the fact that they cost every single family in America $1117 a year. Why should I (or you) be forced to absorb that cost when they are breaking the law illegally coming here? Why should I (or you) be forced to absorb that cost when the laws are on the books to stop them from coming here illegally, yet those laws are not being enforced?

Too cute dude.
The conversation was mostly about violent crime, but of course auto theft is a problem.
The thefts are not by illegals as we've discussed though. They sneak across, steal a car and drive it back to Mexico. Nobody ''lets'' them steal anymore than we let US citizens commit crimes.

 

[jenkinscreekdawg]

Give it a rest.
The reason Military brass decided to stop having armed soldiers at recruiting stations was in response to The Fort Hood shootings. It didn't have one damn thing to do with being ''pc''.
It's fair to ask if it was a wise move, but you have unbalanced thinking on these subjects.

helen, you didn't mention gitmo or the porous southern border , PC crap !

 

[HeulenHund2]

helen, you didn't mention gitmo or the porous southern border , PC crap !

Jerkinscreep. I've posted quite a bit on the immigrant situation today but it seems ''creative'' to bring gitmo into today's conversations.

 

[ZosoDawg]

Too cute dude.
The conversation was mostly about violent crime, but of course auto theft is a problem.
The thefts are not by illegals as we've discussed though. They sneak across, steal a car and drive it back to Mexico. Nobody ''lets'' them steal anymore than we let US citizens commit crimes.

I didn't say anything about "letting" them steal.
What I did say was about the financial drain they are on this country, but you skated right by that part didn't you?

 

[HeulenHund2]

I didn't say anything about "letting" them steal.
What I did say was about the financial drain they are on this country, but you skated right by that part didn't you?

It really doesn't seem to matter what the conversation is about ( violent illegals) some posters just latch onto anything to make any point like a pinball game.
I'm just not in the mood to hop on this little side tangent with you.

 

[whitepug6]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

I thought you conservative right-wingers were all about limited government, low taxes, and LIBERTY LIBERTY FREEDOM!

How are you going to protect every public building from a terrorist attack or shut down illegal immigration across US borders without...(gasp)...hiring additional government workers, spending billions of dollars, and raising taxes to pay for it?

I'm sure the American public will just LOVE going through airport security-style screenings in order to go to the post office!

 

[ZosoDawg]

It really doesn't seem to matter what the conversation is about ( violent illegals) some posters just latch onto anything to make any point like a pinball game.
I'm just not in the mood to hop on this little side tangent with you.

Because you can't spin the fact that they are a drain. I get it

 

[socialcircledawg]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

Danged illegal moolims

 

[ZosoDawg]

You're SO ridiculous,and dishonest.

You're SO ridiculous,and dishonest.

You're SO ridiculous,and dishonest.

How is that dishonest? The numbers belong to the DOJ, not me. Typical Lib response. Blame it on everything but the truth. Is it too late to still blame Bush?

 

[1966septemberdawg]

I thought you conservative right-wingers were all about limited government, low taxes, and LIBERTY LIBERTY FREEDOM!

How are you going to protect every public building from a terrorist attack or shut down illegal immigration across US borders without...(gasp)...hiring additional government workers, spending billions of dollars, and raising taxes to pay for it?

I'm sure the American public will just LOVE going through airport security-style screenings in order to go to the post office!

The american loving patriots will stand and protect your worthless asses. We do not want more government control, that is what they are hoping for. That is not the answer, we actually agree on something. More government is NEVER the answer! don't ever think a conservative will go for that. Time and time again we can count on big government to fail us!

 

[whitepug6]

Is topic view a little tough for you to follow princess? I specifically ask you about the cost of illegal immigration and why my family should be forced to pay $1100 a year to support law breakers.

NO! We need to do something about illegal immigration...let's hire an additional 25,000 border guards, helicopters, high-tech detection equipment, and the construction of a Berlin Wall around the southern border between the US and Mexico.

It's your choice...pay $1100 a year to support law breakers, or $5000 a year to protect you from the law breakers. What makes more sense to you?

 

[1966septemberdawg]

NO! We need to do something about illegal immigration...let's hire an additional 25,000 border guards, helicopters, high-tech detection equipment, and the construction of a Berlin Wall around the southern border between the US and Mexico.

It's your choice...pay $1100 a year to support law breakers, or $5000 a year to protect you from the law breakers. What makes more sense to you?

How about we shoot the law breakers from over the border, that would save a lot of money. Problem solved on a budget.

 

[whitepug6]

How about we shoot the law breakers from over the border, that would save a lot of money. Problem solved on a budget.

Very few law enforcement officers would agree to commit murder.

 

[ZosoDawg]

NO! We need to do something about illegal immigration...let's hire an additional 25,000 border guards, helicopters, high-tech detection equipment, and the construction of a Berlin Wall around the southern border between the US and Mexico.

It's your choice...pay $1100 a year to support law breakers, or $5000 a year to protect you from the law breakers. What makes more sense to you?

faux professor, we have LAWS on the books that need to be enforced. These people are entering the country ILLEGALLY, which means they are breaking the law. Btw, pretty sure $5000 a year is quite an exaggeration.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

Very few law enforcement officers would agree to commit murder.

Like bill and hillary, obama, holder. Many have died at their hands due to their actions. Premeditated murder in the name of progress.
That's your side"the means justifi\y the end" I think is how most liberals view their actions.
Including the murder of unborn children.

 

[DeafDawg.]

Very few law enforcement officers would agree to commit murder.

How many you know?

 

[lawdawg24]

How many you know?

Deaf what up, came with you for a little fun.

 

[lawdawg24]

How are you going to protect every public building from a terrorist attack or shut down illegal immigration across US borders without...(gasp)...hiring additional government workers, spending billions of dollars, and raising taxes to pay for it?

I'm sure the American public will just LOVE going through airport security-style screenings in order to go to the post office![/QUOTE]

You serious Clarke, you are dumb as a brick too aren't you. You commies are just idiots. It's more like get rid of EPA, let states handle education lower taxes etc.

 

[mansfielddawg]

and we need react accordingly . this PC crap has got to stop, we need to protect our country without restrictions . the sign on the door in Tn stated it was a " gun free zone ". while this is going on , there was a moolim service in the white house celebrating some holiday .prez is trying to empty gitmo he wants to empty our prisons . illegals are invited to walk across the border and we are supporting them . we need to keep our eye on the ball .

They are here so it becomes a question of how much more we, as non-muslims, can take before we decide it is indeed worth leaving and may be losing the comfort of our sofas to preserve this country and all its ideals. It all begins with getting rid of president Hussein but that will not be easy despite term limits on the office. Maybe that will be the trigger event for a revolution.