Well, the debate is on. Imagine that

[PotimusWillie]

September 4th.

Full audience

Not what Kamala wanted but was backed into a corner because she acted so powerful in the media. And all the hacks fell for the media misdirection.

This is perfect. Gloves off.

All the misdirection from the media protecting her and propping her up. Now we see a side by side comparison and view who we want helping to steer this country and control our world. She is incapable in my opinion because she has not accomplished anything being worthy other than being a woman of color politician. Prove me wrong.

There are probably 20 city mayors more capable of being our president than Kamala, but DEI sells and makes us feel good.

That’s the point, right?

 

[MUSMDawgs]

Wait I thought trump was afraid to debate Biden I mean Kamala ?

 

[Krowking123]

Wait I thought trump was afraid to debate Biden I mean Kamala ?

Shaking in his boots apparently!

 

[nice marmot]

September 4th.

Full audience

source?

 

[Eastmandawg]

source?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/03/trump-harris-debate-abc-fox/

 

[nice marmot]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/03/trump-harris-debate-abc-fox/

do y'all read articles? or just headlines > "TRUMP CLAIMS..."

"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed late Friday night to have struck a deal for a new debate with Vice President Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee.

But the Harris campaign said Saturday that she never agreed to a new debate deal. Harris is urging Trump to keep the debate date he agreed on with President Biden before Biden withdrew from the race last month."

--

I posted the campaign's response today. Here is Kamala's personal twitter >

 

[madmerf]

Well at least they should get the Secret Service’s A-Team.

That is, unless they’re still guarding the basement.

 

[Krowking123]

do y'all read articles? or just headlines > "TRUMP CLAIMS..."

"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed late Friday night to have struck a deal for a new debate with Vice President Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee.

But the Harris campaign said Saturday that she never agreed to a new debate deal. Harris is urging Trump to keep the debate date he agreed on with President Biden before Biden withdrew from the race last month."

--

I posted the campaign's response today. Here is Kamala's personal twitter >

View embedded media

Don’t remember Trump ever agreeing to debate Kamala Harris on the 10th, I believe he agreed to a candidate whose health Kamala Harris covered up. Why is she scared to debate Trump on Fox? Surely her policies are better that she can beat him on any platform. Weird.

 

[nice marmot]

Don’t remember Trump ever agreeing to debate Kamala Harris on the 10th, I believe he agreed to a candidate whose health Kamala Harris covered up. Why is she scared to debate Trump on Fox? Surely her policies are better that she can beat him on any platform. Weird.

He's desperate and flailing.

 

[atlanta cock#]

He's desperate and flailing.

 

[mitchelldawg]

I think it will be fine on FOX with BB and MM.
Don't want a crowd though.
Just want to hear what each candidate has to say.
I hope they cut each other's microphone off as well when it's not their time to speak.

 

[nice marmot]

[always money in the banana stand}

exactly.

 

[MUSMDawgs]

When did he agree to debate Kamala on September 10th? Does anyone have a link?

Common sense has left the left

 

[nice marmot]

I think it will be fine on FOX with BB and MM.
Just want to hear what each candidate has to say.
I hope they cut each other's microphone off as well when it's not their time to speak.

I agree, actually, except that now you have set up a standoff > who cracks first. I doubt the Harris campaign will be bullied.

AND my guess is that come September, following the DNC, it will be Trump who needs a polling boost.

 

[MUSMDawgs]

I agree, actually, except that now you have set up a standoff > who cracks first. I doubt the Harris campaign will be bullied.

AND my guess is that come September, following the DNC, it will be Trump who needs a polling boost.

Trump agreed to CNN with no crowd. Does he not get any say in a debate? I mean why not let each party choose where one debate is?

Again, not his fault the dems chickened out on Biden due to terrible polling

 

[Eastmandawg]

do y'all read articles? or just headlines > "TRUMP CLAIMS..."

"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed late Friday night to have struck a deal for a new debate with Vice President Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee.

But the Harris campaign said Saturday that she never agreed to a new debate deal. Harris is urging Trump to keep the debate date he agreed on with President Biden before Biden withdrew from the race last month."

--

I posted the campaign's response today. Here is Kamala's personal twitter >

View embedded media

No “y’all” to it. I read it and understand what I read.

You axed for a “source” and I linked one for you.

 

[MUSMDawgs]

The original debate was agreed upon with Biden…. And they CHANGED THE. F’ING candidate. People can act like this isn’t a big deal but it’s massive and the first time in history it’s been this late. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills how quickly this has just been passed over as a nothing burger and just “oh well on to the next candidate “

 

[nice marmot]

No “y’all” to it. I read it and understand what I read.

You axed for a “source” and I linked one for you.

The source does not say that the debate "is on."

 

[atlanta cock#]

source?

Looks like your gal is a wuss (ne George Conway).

 

[nice marmot]

first time in history it’s been this late.

That's not true... Eagleton withdrew on August 1 - after the convention - and Sargent Shriver was elevated thereafter.

 

[nice marmot]

HINDUSTAN TIMES

lolz HINDUSTAN TIMES ! your reading is wide ranging indeed, Mr. Cock.

 

[Eastmandawg]

He's desperate and flailing.

If I remember correctly, the first one was on Biden’s terms. The second one that was agreed to was with Biden, “ not KAMALA”.

Guess he has that right to ask for a different date or agreement.

Besides, it’s 7 days earlier….either you are ready or you are not. Does she need an extra 7 days to prepare??

 

[MUSMDawgs]

That's not true... Eagleton withdrew on August 1 - after the convention - and Sargent Shriver was elevated thereafter.

Sorry I thought that was vice president and we were speaking of presidents my bad

Nobody cares who the generic white dude she picks for VP and that’s not what we are talking about and you know that

 

[Eastmandawg]

The source does not say that the debate "is on."

Dang man….I know, just told you I read it and understood it. You wanted a source of information, I hunted it down and gave it to you.

 

[nice marmot]

Sorry I thought that was vice president and we were speaking of presidents my bad

You said "candidate" ... but fair enough. Eagleton ref may be relevant yet, for when Vance gets the shiv.

(hard to imagine who he would replace him with though, that would balance the hit he'll take for changing his mind)

 

[MUSMDawgs]

You said "candidate" ... but fair enough. Eagleton ref may be relevant yet, for when Vance gets the shiv.

(hard to imagine who he would replace him with though, that would balance the hit he'll take for changing his mind)

Well Trump picks Vance after the primaries, aside from that I agree I don’t think he was a strong pick and will probably hurt him

 

[DawgWCK]

The source does not say that the debate "is on."

The debate has to be on Fox so Harris will have to agree. Fox is # 1 news network in world and both the moderators are solid. CNN moderators and setup was solid and set the bar high. Fox will have to follow suit to get dibs on future debates and meet the current standard. ABC can kick rocks, no way Trump will or should debate on that network. ABC has the View, that should disqualify them 100%

 

[PotimusWillie]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/03/trump-harris-debate-abc-fox/

Sounds like Kamala is scared

 

[nice marmot]

The debate has to be on Fox so Harris will have to agree. Fox is # 1 news network in world and both the moderators are solid. CNN moderators and setup was solid and set the bar high. Fox will have to follow suit to get dibs on future debates and meet the current standard. ABC can kick rocks, no way Trump will or should debate on that network. ABC has the View, that should disqualify them 100%

FOX promoted false election claims, and agreed to pay out almost a billion dollars rather than be eviscerated in court.

 

[PotimusWillie]

I think it will be fine on FOX with BB and MM.
Don't want a crowd though.
Just want to hear what each candidate has to say.
I hope they cut each other's microphone off as well when it's not their time to speak.

I thought CNN did a good job. The no audience issue was to help keep Biden on point. So glad the audience will be there.

 

[atlanta cock#]

lolz HINDUSTAN TIMES ! your reading is wide ranging indeed, Mr. Cock.

It's from Bloomberg, Mr Marmot.

 

[PotimusWillie]

Well Trump picks Vance after the primaries, aside from that I agree I don’t think he was a strong pick and will probably hurt him

Not a strong pick? Explain that one. Does a married man with children exclude him? Becoming self sufficient from abject poverty exclude him?

He doesn’t board cross dressing men in his home. Does that exclude him?

Just exactly what is it that makes him a bad choice?

Comments get thrown out with no basis.

I will go one more. What makes Kamala more qualified than JD Vance? Love to hear it.

 

[DawgWCK]

FOX promoted false election claims, and agreed to pay out almost a billion dollars rather than be eviscerated in court.

True, but they are the # 1 Network in the world with 2 excellent seasoned moderators. It’s Fox or no debate. I figure it’s 50/50. Good argument from both sides handlers not to debate. Trump might get angry and go postal, Harris does solid with scripted stuff, not so good with impromptu. We shall see…

 

[MUSMDawgs]

Not a strong pick? Explain that one. Does a married man with children exclude him? Becoming self sufficient from abject poverty exclude him?

He doesn’t board cross dressing men in his home. Does that exclude him?

Just exactly what is it that makes him a bad choice?

Comments get thrown out with no basis.

I will go one more. What makes Kamala more qualified than JD Vance? Love to hear it.

Sorry I should’ve clarified….. not a strong pick for this day and age wherein we have to pander. It’s a necessary evil to get the votes from those with more baser thought processes on voting

 

[PotimusWillie]

False?

FOX promoted false election claims, and agreed to pay out almost a billion dollars rather than be eviscerated in court.

And we know the elections claims were wrong?

All we know is that the forensic evidence was never weighed in a court of law. So their claims could not be legally supported. It was cheaper to pay off.

That is not debatable.

 

[Eastmandawg]

Dang man….I know, just told you I read it and understood it. You wanted a source of information, I hunted it down and gave it to you.

@nice marmot ….you’re welcome.

 

[ToddBburn]

He's desperate and flailing.

And she is not. She has not said anything of substance since she displaced Biden. She has not answered questions in person or stated anything about policy.

 

[ToddBburn]

You said "candidate" ... but fair enough. Eagleton ref may be relevant yet, for when Vance gets the shiv.

(hard to imagine who he would replace him with though, that would balance the hit he'll take for changing his mind)

Seriously a candidate. It has happened for the mayor in Mayberry also. Damn you will reach and defend/spin crap with the best of them.

 

[willdup]

lolz HINDUSTAN TIMES ! your reading is wide ranging indeed, Mr. Cock. C

False?

And we know the elections claims were wrong?

All we know is that the forensic evidence was never weighed in a court of law. So their claims could not be legally supported. It was cheaper to pay off.

That is not debatable.

Really? Which forensic evidence would that be? Rudy and team never had forensic evidence to present in court. The revisionist history that the Trump team were never given the opportunity to present evidence is fiction.

Reminder, the Trump election fraud legal team is either under felony indictment or has already taken pleas related to their misconduct after the election and all have either been disbarred, are in the process of being disbarred and have been subject to multi-year suspensions of their law licenses.

Here’s a few examples of cases where the lack of evidence was one of the determining factors in dismissal. You are welcome to look them up as well.

1. **Pennsylvania: Trump v. Boockvar**
- **Court**: U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania
- **Outcome**: Dismissed
- **Reason**: The court found no evidence of voter fraud and noted that the campaign's claims had no merit or were speculative.

2. **Michigan: Johnson v. Benson**
- **Court**: Michigan Court of Claims
- **Outcome**: Dismissed
- **Reason**: The court found that the allegations were not supported by evidence and the request to stop the certification of votes was moot, as the counting was already complete.

3. **Arizona: Bowyer v. Ducey**
- **Court**: U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona
- **Outcome**: Dismissed
- **Reason**: The court ruled that the claims were based on misunderstandings of how the election process works and lacked factual evidence.

4. **Georgia: Wood v. Raffensperger**
- **Court**: U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia
- **Outcome**: Dismissed
- **Reason**: The court determined that the plaintiff did not have standing and failed to provide evidence to support claims of fraud.

5. **Wisconsin: Trump v. Biden**
- **Court**: Wisconsin Supreme Court
- **Outcome**: Dismissed
- **Reason**: The court found no legal basis to challenge the absentee ballots and noted that the issues should have been raised before the election.

6. **Nevada: Law v. Whitmer**
- **Court**: Nevada Supreme Court
- **Outcome**: Dismissed
- **Reason**: The court found insufficient evidence of fraud and determined that the claims did not meet the legal standards required to overturn the election results.

 

[litedawg1968]

So if she’s so powerful and awesome and all that, why not just take the challenge?

My guess is because she’s weak and stupid. But that’s just a guess. I’m old enough to remember Trump going on damn near every network that would have him. I guess that’s the difference between a leader and a coward.