Exactly. He wants to continue to be a relevant voice, and I want him to continue to be a relevant voice.
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Exactly. He wants to continue to be a relevant voice, and I want him to continue to be a relevant voice.
Not a pay wall for me. Oxford University professor says the numbers don't bear out the panic.
Intriguing. I'd love to know more about that. I will see if I can find another source quoting them. What is the professor's name?
I found the article @kdsdawg - For some reason when I did a google search it didnt throw the pay wall up. Very interesting. Damn I hope that is true - it would save our football season. I think we will know if it's true in a month or so. If new cases decline at some point in that time frame then it would suggest a lot more herd immunity exists than previously believed.
This is the voice of reason. Key phrase: the numbers aren't adding up. We need calm.
And paychecks!
It would be happening. Its election year. This virus is DEMs' only hope. That, and vote rigging, like Pelosi put in her bill.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464
I believe we are about to be open for business again!
Careful what you wish for. Because it looks to me like Trump is flexing right now. And when we kick the virus’ ass and get back to work, it’s over.
Do you actually listen to Dr. Fauci or do you just listen to what pundits say about him. I have literally seen him on 3 different occasions say the POTUS listens to him and the med staff. Dr. Birx echoed the same as does Surgeon General Dr. Adams.
Now, there is no doubt Dr. Fauci doesn't like Trump's style and wants to avoid getting over our skis but that is what doctors and researchers do. I also think Dr. Fauci understands that you don't let people die because a treatment that shows promise hasn't jumped thru all the normal clinical hoops and you can't let the engine that actually allows him and his colleagues to do their work and make advancements to die.
My point in the previous post stands. The man knows he is a dealing with the most powerful buffoon in the world, so he is walking the tightrope. Trumps words don’t indicate he listens to him.
No one buys this load of BS. This same exact situation would be taking place if it were 2017, or 2018, or 2019.
Almost everyone believes this virus is politicized. Just watch the MSM. you'd be surprised what goes on out here in the real world.
Just a point of order but it turns out this couple drank a dose of aquarium cleaner. NBC left that part out & just ran the story anyway because the ernge guy is bad.
Hate it for them but Darwin & all applies heavily in this case.
You have run out of words to rationalize this terrible display from the president. Signs of an incredibly weak point. Now get back to all of the stuff you skipped from an earlier post:
As for protecting the vulnerable, It Turns out way more people are vulnerable to this illness than just the geriatrics, which was an old belief that has since been disproven. This illness flat out knocks people on their ass in ways the flu doesn’t do, and it spreads to More people.
The HC system isn’t designed to handle something like this. Going back to work is flat out irresponsible if the goal is to maximize lives and our HC system.
If only we had enough masks to help mitigate the risk of going back to work, but there aren’t enough for healthcare workers, much less everyday citizens. Unfortunately, We don’t have a society that wears masks like the Asian ones.
The virus exists outside the realm of the politically obsessed such as yourself. It doesnt GAS what political party you cheer for. You better stay inside or it just might kick your ass. How many deaths per day is gonna finally make you change your ignorant mind? 500?
I will be properly concerned when the death toll starts accelerating past a bad flu year in the US...80,000 deaths, like a year ago. But not if those are people who were already dying from a terminal illness in the first place.
Can you tell me how many Coronavirus deaths so far had terminal cancer, so far?
No, I haven't ran out of arguments. I simply get bored debating people that won't admit a fact when there are literally multiple quotes from the subject matter and others in the room that 100% refute your position. When you result to saying the straight shooter Dr. Fauci is now lying to keep his position and call his boss a buffoon, there is really no need in continuing the conversation.
Folks like me have stated over and over that we've done some things correctly and we've made some mistakes. Others simply take the position of OM bad and nothing he does is the right move. Honestly, I always enjoy your post and even a back and forth with you but this conversation is a dead end. I can agree with the fact that our testing procedures and supply chain was a disaster for many reasons and that buck stops at the top. I can also give the POTUS credit for following the scientists advise and stopping flights from China, quarantining potential victims.
Do you have any idea how many people die daily on average in the United States? I’m sorry but 500 people is an extraordinarily low number. I know that sounds callous but it is the honest truth as much as I wish death wasn’t real and we were all immortal.
When something is overwhelming HC systems, it’s far more serious than a normal day at the death office.
It’s well known trump gets rid of people quickly. Fauci is smart enough to know that. He is smart enough to know how to not end up on the chopping block. Even if you disagree with that take, I had other takes in that post you are continuing to ignore.
A bad flu year is 50-60k, and it would be a hell of a lot worse without the vaccine. Just like this would be a hell of a lot worse without closing down.
Imagine if the media and our politicians acted this way over the flu. The reason there is panic and concern over the hospitals is because of the narrative. Yes, this is very serious for the elderly and medically compromised. But, for the rest of us washing your hands and social distancing is sufficient.
Panic and concern is because of an influx of acute respiratory distress syndrome. Make no mistake, Covid causes that, not the media.
A large amount of our adult nation is either elderly or with underlying health concerns like high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes, or asthma, especially in the south.
We can’t have it 1 way...economy/medical. Both have to be addressed now, can’t continue to print $ again in 3 months.
So, here’s the question. Without discounting the Wuhan Virus (it’s serious), how can the chicken little’s, who have seriously damaged our economy and harmed millions of our citizens, backpeddle and admit they overreacted? The answer is they can’t. Look for an enormous deflection effort led by the NYT and WaPo.
“When after all these social distancing measures are taken, and the total loss of life isn’t that bad, the people who opposed taking them are going to claim vindication.”
Thanks for proving this point already.
I think I will take the word of @JohnnyBeeDawg over some know-it-all yankee quack at the CDC. They don't even listen to their gut. If his gut says the number is 80k then it's 80k.
CDC says estimate was 46k-95k last season. Dr. Fauci said in press conference it was 80k.
Believe any jackleg on the internet you want.
EDIT: Correction...My numbers are from 2018, not 2019. Fact remains that flu kills too.
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