Pretty shameful what Trump is doing to our democratic process....
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Yeah, I agree. To think someone would want to be a politician for greed of money and power seems out of place.
We should censor him from speaking publicly. Maybe have his name sandblasted off his buildings.
Yea the nerve, not acting like a Politician ....I'd much rather have someone who is "handled" and tells me what I want to hear all the time.....
I think he's actually nudging the other candidates towards reality.
With Black Unemployment being at 10% overall and Young black unemployment closer to 30%,
all their hellraisers showing up to Democratic fundraisers and shouting the ACA is NOT affordable,
all the Illegal immigration problems, the Bullshit IRS codes and abuses and the Wall Street/Government
complicity, and terror cells exploding here at home, the Average Joe is seeing BOTH parties completely
driving the debates away from what he sees as an early start towards Greece or China.
BOTH parties are so far away from what is really happening to us that even if un-electable at least
he's honestly stating what he sees as problems rather than playing to the PC crowd and admiring the Emperors New clothes.
With Black Unemployment being at 10% overall and Young black unemployment closer to 30%,
all their hellraisers showing up to Democratic fundraisers and shouting the ACA is NOT affordable,
all the Illegal immigration problems, the Bullshit IRS codes and abuses and the Wall Street/Government
complicity, and terror cells exploding here at home, the Average Joe is seeing BOTH parties completely
driving the debates away from what he sees as an early start towards Greece or China.
BOTH parties are so far away from what is really happening to us that even if un-electable at least
he's honestly stating what he sees as problems rather than playing to the PC crowd and admiring the Emperors New clothes.
I love it..He is telling it like it is..not censoring himself and is not worried about hurting someone's feelings..
The press hates him b/c he is not following their "rules" on how to run for office..they cannot manipulate him and he does not kowtow to them.
The left hates him b/c he is bringing to light the immigration problem and the public is swinging to his side..now HITlary is having to answer questions about that and planned parent hood..when that is always in the dems wheelhouse.. He has gone into the dems backyard and picked a fight..I love it..
And picked a fight with the right too. You are dead on. He's not being a good dog for the media
and rolling over and begging.
and rolling over and begging.
Yeah, all those so-called speeches he made for money........25 million alone in 2014........oh wait...that wasn't Trump making money off of "politics and political favors" was it? That must have been another candidate.............wonder who would dare be involved in politics just to make millions?
That comb over chump doesn't speak for me. He just talks tough when his bodyguards are around. If he takes his shirt off you can see the yellow streak down his spine.
I don't. Been years since I darkened the doorstep of a church.
Christians were the biggest non-voting demographic out there.
They gave this last election to Obama.
Christians were the biggest non-voting demographic out there.
They gave this last election to Obama.
The Black community and immigrant community thanks you for your concern trolling. Since all these problems concern you so much, why don't you share with us your plan to solve them? This should be interesting.
well aren't you special! Does he scare you because he is not liberal enough? Most of the US citizens love what he is doing, because he speaks for the everyday man, as another man who works hard and has EARNED his own living. He has not fleeced the public as a lifetime politician looking to line his pockets with cash and kickbacks. Speak on Mr. Trump, keep pissing off the Washington insiders and the liberal media.
Its their problem, only they can solve them
I'm sure we don't share the same christian values you and folks like Hillary and Barry have, who adamantly support those selling the body parts of fetuses. Yeah, it would take a "special" type of christian to refuse to condemn that.
And since you're unconcerned Whitepug you can tell us all how effin great it really is for everyone. I'll sit back and listen.
Unlike you, I actually am doing something. This summer I am volunteering at an elementary school in my city that is overwhelmingly African-American and Latin.
I believe government at all levels should do the following:
- provide more vocational education (work-based teaching) in high schools
-offer tax breaks to businesses willing to offer apprenticeships to community college vo-tech students
-pass legislation to bolster, rather than weaken, unions. Historically, high membership rates in unions appear to have lifted wages not just for the union member, but also for the non-union member as well.
-pass legislation increasing the minimum wage.
That's just a start.
You haven't the foggiest clue how wrong you are.
It's actually humorous.
You just the pigeon on the chess board.
50 years of your kind have ruined
a lot of great people of all colors and in many nations.
I'm a 'volunteer' this summer, is all you've got?
Hell, I've volunteered all my life and taught all 3 of my sons to
lend a helping hand (but not a handout) all over Appalachia
and the South. I was one of the first into the 9th Ward after Katrina.
I could offer you a pissing match on who has done the most
but you don't care. You just want to sling labels and act snide.
Your comment on how I am unaffected shows me who you
think you are and who I am and I'm cool with that. But know this.
You're wrong.
Wrong.
Jesus, the Unions, and more government is not the answer.
Wrong.
You're clever. I'll give you that.
But wrong.
It's actually humorous.
You just the pigeon on the chess board.
50 years of your kind have ruined
a lot of great people of all colors and in many nations.
I'm a 'volunteer' this summer, is all you've got?
Hell, I've volunteered all my life and taught all 3 of my sons to
lend a helping hand (but not a handout) all over Appalachia
and the South. I was one of the first into the 9th Ward after Katrina.
I could offer you a pissing match on who has done the most
but you don't care. You just want to sling labels and act snide.
Your comment on how I am unaffected shows me who you
think you are and who I am and I'm cool with that. But know this.
You're wrong.
Wrong.
Jesus, the Unions, and more government is not the answer.
Wrong.
You're clever. I'll give you that.
But wrong.
My "kind" challenged fascism when your "kind" wanted to isolate American from the rest of the world. My "kind" challenged communism when your "kind" wanted to balance the budget and save the peace dividend from a world war your "kind" didn't want to fight. My "kind" put men into space and on the moon while your "kind" bitched and moaned about high taxes. My "kind" were Freedom Riders, participated in sit-ins, marched on Washington and Selma, and goaded the nation to get a civil rights and voting rights act passed in Congress while your "kind" switched sides from Dixiecrat to Republican.
You complain about government, but government defeated slavery, fascism, and communism. It continues to fight racism and poverty.
If I'm wrong, as you say, present your alternative agenda for helping working-class Americans have a better life. So far, all you've done is complain and cite some sketchy statistics that imply Black people have some sort of social pathology. That's the very definition of a troll.
The kind you think you are have died out.
All that's left is a pathetic mewling whine about an equality
of respect without the equal share of labor.
Your kind did not defeat fascism. YOUR kind IS fascism.
It's the poor man with the M1 that defeated fascism. Not the government
sitting home and sending more draftees.
That same government created projects, reservations, and
despair and it's the government created racism of NOW that your kind supports.
Keep the poor down like Huey P. Long did for years.
I've seen your kind of help for 50 years and it's enough.
You say I said black people have a social pathology?
That's professor talk, not mine. I assure you. You're wrong again.
I'm sure you think you mean well, but you're wrong.
All that's left is a pathetic mewling whine about an equality
of respect without the equal share of labor.
Your kind did not defeat fascism. YOUR kind IS fascism.
It's the poor man with the M1 that defeated fascism. Not the government
sitting home and sending more draftees.
That same government created projects, reservations, and
despair and it's the government created racism of NOW that your kind supports.
Keep the poor down like Huey P. Long did for years.
I've seen your kind of help for 50 years and it's enough.
You say I said black people have a social pathology?
That's professor talk, not mine. I assure you. You're wrong again.
I'm sure you think you mean well, but you're wrong.
I agree completely with your points on vocational courses of study and promoting more apprenticeships as a functional way to the middle class for those in our communities who are simply not "college materinal" and/or really do not want to be. I'm not too warm about the union options. Minimum wage could be raised a bit, but we all know that would mean either fewer hours or fewer jobs.
What if we offered raises based on merit as well as on volunteering for overtime and successfully completing additional job skills training? Unions tend to demand increases in pay regardless of the quality or dependability of the work. Kind of like our part time teacher unions, full time political machines. My personal opinion is that if you have a government job at any level, then a union is nothing short of another form of "double-dipping." And yes, some of my best friends work for the government.
We should also enforce equitably the immigration laws we currently have in place for a minimum of 5 years before passing any legislation on changing those laws. Not sure that 5 year run has ever been accomplished in any administration. The best news for us with our Hispanic neighbors to the south being our biggest concern is that they have a huge head start into our culture with their food and music and best of all, their form of religion is quite similar to most of ours. So, whatever our "new and improved" immigration laws become, they should be fair, easily defined, and firm for those of us, who are already citizens as well for those who would like to be citizens. All immigrants, like your ancestors and mine did, should be expected to learn our most commonly used language, a working knowledge of our history and a basic understanding of how our government is supposed to work. And we should place certain conditions on being considered as a new resident or citizen. One should be to bring a set of skills that are in short supply here......just like Switzerland does it, and they have a very diverse population with very few problems.
In short, I agree with you that whomever is running for public office at any level should bring actual, realistic ideas and functional plans on how to improve things, rather than just railing against the incumbent for what they've done wrong or not done at all. Bring solutions, not just whining about and insults for "the other side" of the table. But you and I both know that the winner will be determined by whose platitudes mesmerize the masses most effectively.
I'm actually okay with 1 and 2, but 3 and 4 are horrible ideas. Private sector unions don't work at all, and public sector unions should be outlawed. Unions, in general, outlived their usefulness in about 1935. As for the minimum wage, you DO know that the only reason Dems beat the drum for it is because one of their core groups, unions pressure them for it because their wage scales are often indexed to it, don't you? In addition, it's a job killer.
No, government didn't , Americans did. Fight racism and poverty, how fuking stupid is THA statement? Government promotes both. How's that war on poverty working? It's gov (liberal ) programs that keep ppl in poverty and dependent by design. Racism? What racism? The phony racism that POSOTUS and other poverty pimps need to keep stirred up?
You don't need gov to teach ppl how to gain work skills, that's what minimum wages jobs are....entry level...raise them you'll have less jobs.....but then...you teach...you don't do.
Still haven't provided your agenda for working-class Americans? You're all complaint and no constructive thought.
Well, the problem is that the current minimum wage is worth about 25 percent less than it was worth in 1970, indexed for inflation.
I understand that you are an angry, low-information person but you obviously don't understand the importance of vocational education and how it can transform working-class Americans into the middle class.
Only a willfully ignorant person like yourself would throw out that old, long-discredited cliche about teachers. I actually "do" history. What do you do for a living?
I know you are a low-information person, so this may come as a surprise, maybe a shock. "We the People" are the United States government.
Just how do you 'do' history?
You're nothing more than a socialist and one who couldn't hack it in the real world.
I own a mix of commercial and residential real estate and keep 15 people employed full-time. The harder and more efficiently they work, the more they get paid. They don't need a union to tell them how hard to work nor tell me how much I have to pay them.
The free market will dictate what people will work for. If your offer is lower than what my labor is worth, I will go find another job for more money. If the McDs is offering 8.00 for burger flippers, and Wendy's is offering 8.25, where do you think everybody is going to want to work? Why not let market forces take effect? In addition, minimum wage jobs are not meant to support working age labor. They are meant for entry level workers.
People earning minimum wage should not be raising families! If they had drive or minimal skill sets they would receive raises for good work.
It makes sense to me if you can not afford to raise children DO NOT HAVE THEM! It is not up to the taxpayers to fund public stupidity.
A minimum wage job should be a starting point not a career.
I PRODUCE. You're a walking cliche. If not for liberal talking points you'd not have anything to add. We have vocational schools. I have a ton of respect for teachers.....not propogandists. Its clear, you couldn't run a lemonade stand, you don't know how the world works
We the people haven't been the government for quite sometime now. Have you noticed POSOTUS?
Whitepug,
Provide YOU an agenda? You are a megalomaniac!
So you can act more snide? Sure!
1. Stop protecting Unions. My family was union from years of mining to mill workers
and some still are. Unions are obsolete parasites and even the more honest
members will tell you as much.
2. Do our dead-level best to re-create a Constitutional Republic
instead of the Socialism we have slid in to. Start by forcing the
government to live by OUR laws. Not only enforcing the ones they
don't find 'icky' or politically expedient. If WE are the government (and neither
party represents our true interests) then they should abide by our laws as well.
3. I see no problem with a wage increase, but let the markets dictate that.
However, if a state thinks the raise is warranted I could buy that, but NOT
a sitting President or Congress.
4. If we're going to be a nation of laws, lets enforce immigration laws and throw
out the old Hart-Celler Act of 1965, and get rid of the quotas in determining what
country of origin an individual has to be from. We need to have people assimilated
rather than importing disaffection from elsewhere. I would like to get an influx
of people based on their character and self-determination, not simply because they
are from Ghana.
5. Bring back the Pledge of Allegiance. It's the little things. The people and schools
that don't want to offend others and purposely take down the American flag should
not receive ANY taxpayers money. I have NO idea how to make people love the opportunities
here but it certainly isn't by being afraid or embarrassed of our country.
Provide YOU an agenda? You are a megalomaniac!
So you can act more snide? Sure!
1. Stop protecting Unions. My family was union from years of mining to mill workers
and some still are. Unions are obsolete parasites and even the more honest
members will tell you as much.
2. Do our dead-level best to re-create a Constitutional Republic
instead of the Socialism we have slid in to. Start by forcing the
government to live by OUR laws. Not only enforcing the ones they
don't find 'icky' or politically expedient. If WE are the government (and neither
party represents our true interests) then they should abide by our laws as well.
3. I see no problem with a wage increase, but let the markets dictate that.
However, if a state thinks the raise is warranted I could buy that, but NOT
a sitting President or Congress.
4. If we're going to be a nation of laws, lets enforce immigration laws and throw
out the old Hart-Celler Act of 1965, and get rid of the quotas in determining what
country of origin an individual has to be from. We need to have people assimilated
rather than importing disaffection from elsewhere. I would like to get an influx
of people based on their character and self-determination, not simply because they
are from Ghana.
5. Bring back the Pledge of Allegiance. It's the little things. The people and schools
that don't want to offend others and purposely take down the American flag should
not receive ANY taxpayers money. I have NO idea how to make people love the opportunities
here but it certainly isn't by being afraid or embarrassed of our country.
When did our political process change? It's always been about greed and money. Until you put in term limits & end to career politicians, we won't see meaningful change.
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