Tucker is out, effective immediately.

[kckd]

This is where we differ. And I say of course they were. They are a right leaning station. I just posted 26 minutes of the msm and Biden lying about the Biden laptop. Knowingly lied. Same with other Russian interference. They lie on a consistent basis. Fox calls them out every single night. There is a lie told by them every night. At least. No other msm place does this. Which is why Tucker snd gutfeld are crushing the liberal hosts out there. People are so happy to see them getting called out. They don’t care if fox pushes a right leaning agenda. They are begging for it. Because personally we are sick of being lied too for so long. They lied so often during the Obama years it spawned all of these highly rated podcasts and new stations. People sick to death of the fake news media. That is where the term started. For a reason. Fox was just a blurb before then.

Even if true, what corporation or person did they harm? Again the lawsuit was brought by a company because the lies harmed the company and the company could prove that they did it knowing they were lies. Again, this is football and what about.
MAGA, conservative, rah rah!
You don't understand what the lawsuit was about. And I have a pretty good feeling if FOX thought they could win it they wouldn't have settled for near one billion dollars.

 

[cherrydawg]

And by libs you mean anyone who disagrees with you.

Nope. I mean those that agree with liberal leftists. You are what you are.

 

[kckd]

Nope. I mean those that agree with liberal leftists. You are what you are.

I've never seen one person on here that disagreed with you on anything that you didn't label democrat or liberal. Not one person. I hope you don't conduct yourself that way in your personal life. You probably don't. But if you do, good luck with relationships.

 

[zingerdawg]

Even if true, what corporation or person did they harm? Again the lawsuit was brought by a company because the lies harmed the company and the company could prove that they did it knowing they were lies. Again, this is football and what about.
MAGA, conservative, rah rah!
You don't understand what the lawsuit was about. And I have a pretty good feeling if FOX thought they could win it they wouldn't have settled for near one billion dollars.

I don’t think you are getting my point. And I know you don’t read my other posts. I have said before fox deserved what they got. They hurt dominion monetarily. No red state will ever used them again. Even blue states may move on from them. For something that was never proven to be the case. I get the lawsuit just fine.

I am trying to explain they both lie. Because they are pushing a narrative. It didn’t start out as a maga narrative at fox. What made this popular is the same reason rush or bill oreilly were popular. They would go against the msm. And call them out for every single lie. People from the right were so thirsty for anything like this fox had become the most watched cable news network. By far. That is a fact kckd.

I know you don’t like trump. I get it. Not all that fond of him myself. But when given a choice I believe Biden is the bigger evil. And he has been proven to lie just as much or more. And every move he makes turns to shit. Can we just get someone who makes a choice for everyone. To help people here. This is what fox pushes when I watch. And I agree with most of what they say. I don’t watch just them. I also read. But I watch the other stations to see what the other party agenda pushing stations are saying.

They both push agendas. It isn’t just fox. But I can admit freely that fox does this. It is so hard for any lefties to admit what the msm pushes thru their agenda has been proven to be bs too.

How they framed George Floyd and others like his tragedy did cause damage to companies. The numbers didn’t match the outrage. And what actually happens doesn’t point to anything but a shitty cop. And he wasnt targeted because of race. They played on emotions. Same way fox did with the election. No mention from the left. This is the playbook. Which is sad.

 

[willdup]

I know exactly what it is. Will spends his time repeating every lie the msm and democrat pols utter acting like he is the know it all of all things. Just watch.. He is in LOCK step with all the propaganda spewed by the left. He acts like he is all bent out of shape by a news cast he disagrees with when he himself repeated the same russia lie his media told him for 3 yrs. There are a whole list of other leftist lies he has stood behind. I will say this, he is a good talker, smooth writer and for those that are easily swayed by pretty words he is a brainiac. I have called him and he is exactly a propaganda merchant for the left and either knows very little other than what the left tells him or is totally dishonest with what he types. He is no better than madow, lemon or tucker.

Cherry, if you think I am repeating lies, please be specific about what lies and I’ll respond. Otherwise, your constant accusations with little or no substance in support is truly tiresome.

 

[kckd]

I don’t think you are getting my point. And I know you don’t read my other posts. I have said before fox deserved what they got. They hurt old dominion monetarily. No read state will ever used them again. Even blue states may move on from them. For something that was never proven to be the case. I get the lawsuit just fine.

I am trying to explain that both lie. Because they are pushing a narrative. It didn’t start out as a maga narrative. What made this popular is the same reason rush or bill oreilly were popular. They would go against the msm. And call them out for every single lie. People from the right were so thirsty for anything like this fox had become the most watched cable news network. By far. That is a fact kckd.

I know you don’t like trump. I get it. Not all that fond of him myself. But when given a choice I believe Biden is the bigger evil. And he has been proven to lie just as much or more. And every move he makes turns to shit. Can we just get someone who makes a choice for everyone. To help people here. This is what fox pushes when I watch. And I agree with most of what they say. I don’t watch just them. I also read. But I watch the other stations to see what the other party agenda pushing stations are saying.

They both push agendas. It isn’t just fox. But I can admit freely that fox does this. It is so hard for any lefties to admit what the msm pushes thru their agenda has been proven to be bs too.

How they framed George Floyd and others like his tragedy did cause damage to companies. The numbers didn’t match the outrage. And what actually happens doesn’t pint to anything but a shitty cop. And he wasnt targeted because of race. They played on emotions. Same way fox did with the election. No mention from the left. This is the playbook. Which is sad.

Okay both lie.
But let me explain about Tucker because what we're talking about is his firing, or at least that's where we started. They just had to settle for almost one billion.
They didn't, but should have told their news personalities to stop pushing the Dominion, Smartmatic, stories.
Carlson in his private conversations is basically saying the 8-11 opinon anchors run the show and can do what they want. They can use their power to get the things done they need. In other words, the bosses are that in title only. They have the real power.
They told him to stop with the Jan. 6th propaganda he was shoveling out. He would not do it. They just had to settle for .8 billion. They can't take many more lawsuits like that. He was being insubordinate. That's why he was fired.
Hannity was in a similar situation a few years back trying to claim some guy that used to work for the Clintons was dead from a hit job by the Clintons. He had no evidence. The parents of that guy threatened to sue. Fox told Hannity to stop it and he listened. He's still there.
I think they kind of know it's a gamble with Tucker. He may cause them to be sued again since he won't follow orders.

 

[zingerdawg]

Okay both lie.
But let me explain about Tucker because what we're talking about is his firing, or at least that's where we started. They just had to settle for almost one billion.
They didn't, but should have told their news personalities to stop pushing the Dominion, Smartmatic, stories.
Carlson in his private conversations is basically saying the 8-11 opinon anchors run the show and can do what they want. They can use their power to get the things done they need. In other words, the bosses are that in title only. They have the real power.
They told him to stop with the Jan. 6th propaganda he was shoveling out. He would not do it. They just had to settle for .8 billion. They can't take many more lawsuits like that. He was being insubordinate. That's why he was fired.
Hannity was in a similar situation a few years back trying to claim some guy that used to work for the Clintons was dead from a hit job by the Clintons. He had no evidence. The parents of that guy threatened to sue. Fox told Hannity to stop it and he listened. He's still there.
I think they kind of know it's a gamble with Tucker. He may cause them to be sued again since he won't follow orders.

I can agree with that. It is a logical conclusion. There were rumors out there today that the hate filled texts and emails came because Tucker blindly supported trump and believed him about dominion. No evidence was given and he was hung out to dry. Trump reached out to him, and they supposedly buried the hatchett. That was the rumor.

He has become bigger than the station in some ways. I am not a fan of his. Really never have been, but I have friends that are. It will be interesting to see where he goes from here. My guess is back on tv with big ratings. Very soon.

 

[ugadoc]

Despite the $787m settlement, I find this move surprising.

Let’s see if it indicative of a change in editorial direction or not.

View embedded media

Murdaugh sons are liberals who hate Trump. Spent $20 million against Trump in the last election. Larry Finn CEO of Blackrock just increased his shares of Fox a few months ago to 20% of the company. He is a far left liberal. The liberals are taking over Fox. It will die a slow death like CNN. Newsmax viewership is about to take off exponentially.

 

[ugadoc]

FakeFoxNews had the exact identical facts as other news organizations.... as proven and admitted to in court... and still flat out lied to you. THAT'S the difference between an PBS/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC that you refuse to accept because it just doesn't align with your fears. Meanwhile, get treatment for your delusional paranoia soon. You'll feel better.

The other networks lie more than Fox ever has. Russia collusion which cost we the tax payers millions of dollars. Burying the very real hunter Biden laptop and the fact that joe and his family have made millions selling out our nation to our enemies. They should be in jail for treason. The main stream media directly committed election interference by their selective stories pushing lies and covering up for Democrats. Prove me wrong.

 

[kckd]

Murdaugh sons are liberals who hate Trump. Spent $20 million against Trump in the last election. Larry Finn CEO of Blackrock just increased his shares of Fox a few months ago to 20% of the company. He is a far left liberal. The liberals are taking over Fox. It will die a slow death like CNN. Newsmax viewership is about to take off exponentially.

Newsmax probably can't afford to pay Tucker's light bill. He'll probably end up doing pods like Rogan or end up on radio to be the new Rush.
The sons aren't liberals. One is hard core conservative and is the reason Fox dropped "fair and balanced". The other is more right center. But like most business men, continuing to have to pay out millions in lawsuits is not a thing they like.

 

[willdup]

Murdaugh sons are liberals who hate Trump. Spent $20 million against Trump in the last election. Larry Finn CEO of Blackrock just increased his shares of Fox a few months ago to 20% of the company. He is a far left liberal. The liberals are taking over Fox. It will die a slow death like CNN. Newsmax viewership is about to take off exponentially.

James Murdock is liberal and he left the company because of it. Lachlan, the one who is Co-Chairman of Fox, is most assuredly not a liberal. In fact, he might be more of an extremist than his father.

Tucker was not unceremoniously fired because the liberals are taking over Fox.

Lachlan Murdoch Is Even More of a Right-Wing Ultra Than His Old Man

The future of Fox News looks a lot like its malignant past.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[PotimusWillie]

This is an incredibly naive post if you truly believe this.

The suggestion that someone with 3 million nightly viewers doesn't have influence with his words is simply an absurd position to take.

Who said anything about his influence? I am trying to find the post you are referencing.

On words, who should police words?

Should we not allow words on TV? Who makes the rule on acceptable words?

 

[BeachDawg]

Who said anything about his influence? I am trying to find the post you are referencing.

On words, who should police words?

Should we not allow words on TV? Who makes the rule on acceptable words?

You said it.

You asked, clearly rhetorical in your mind, how are Carlson's words dangerous?

Words cannot force someone to do something (absent some level of magic). They can only "influence" someone to do something.

So when you ask how are Tucker's words dangerous what you are asking is how can Tucker's words influence someone to do dangerous things.

I'll concede that perhaps you really were wondering how Tucker's actual words can be physically dangerous. Though I personally wouldn't want others to think I was genuinely asking such a question and I just assumed you would feel similarly.

 

[willdup]

will, I catch your drift there. You laid out a logical explanation. Thanks. I am trying to reply in the same way. My only contention is that guys like Tucker, Maddow, Lemon, etc., aren’t reporting. They are commenting their opinion.

Also, who determines what is truth or lie? Much of what we know about events now will be revisited and reclassified over the years. The rush to question a talking head’s right to question can get quite dangerous.

I don’t hold these guys to @contributing to the kind of violence we saw on Jan 6th”. I hold congressmen and women in contempt, but not talking heads.

Tucker and Lemon and Maddow don’t make laws. They cannot give me permission to do anything. They are an actor.

Our empathetic “feelings” based society will be the death of our country.

Any yeah, when a network agrees with the central government, I turn it off. Just my opinion.

I am trying to stay civil in this. This board does get my blood pressure up, but we all have a right to our opinion.

PW - I know you are a student of WW2. As such, I would expect you to be well acquainted with the role that the Goebbels propaganda machine played in the rise of the National Socialist party and the conditioning of the German people to embrace things in 1938 (Kristallnacht) that would have been unimaginable less than a decade prior.

Talking heads who are intentionally and knowingly lying to manipulate the public are at least as dangerous if not more so than politicians.

 

[PotimusWillie]

PW - I know you are a student of WW2. As such, I would expect you to be well acquainted with the role that the Goebbels propaganda machine played in the rise of the National Socialist party and the conditioning of the German people to embrace things in 1938 (Kristallnacht) that would have been unimaginable less than a decade prior.

Talking heads who are intentionally and knowingly lying to manipulate the public are at least as dangerous if not more so than politicians.

With you on that, but as with Germany, it was the media that backed the government propaganda.

I tend to fear central government. The media that is in lock step with central government is not free press and isn’t safe.

The theme of Goebbels machine was an effort to move the German people to a centralized form of government designed to control its people. He shut down descending opinion and voices. The narrowed approved speech to meet the standards of the government. Once in power, the people were in lock step or killed.

Personal freedoms were lost, not because of words of opposite opinion, but in the enforcement of what was acceptable to the central government. Opposing opinion was snuffed out.

Who is snuffing out opinion? That is where it gets scary. The opposing opinion provides debate and discussion.

 

[Zonadog]

I don't know that Tucker got fired for Dominion. It wasn't what he aired on his show that brought the lawsuit. His texts and such didn't help them though as it clearly showed he was more worried about ratings than actual news reporting.
I just listened to Megan Kelly say that "it was the wrong call" on Arizona. This is my problem. As far as you wanna go back, news organizations want to be the first to call a state correctly. It used to give them clout to say they were the best. Just like on here. Our guys want to be the first to break the news about UGA football, but make sure that it's true, factual or not something they'll have to take back later.
The fact that they saw Fox reporting Arizona to Biden first, because they saw no path with what votes were left for Trump to win, were correct in their take, and then got hit over the head and fired for it because it cost them viewers tells you it's not about news. It's about telling people what they want to hear. If you'll read a little more, they were still doing stuff in the office there that you or I would be fired for if we did the same at our jobs more than likely.
And I can't imagine his texts saying that he and Ingraham and Hannity run the network went over well with the top brass.

Agree with you that Carlson's cancellation has more to do with his relationship with the Murdochs, and being a problem for management and sales, than the Dominion case.

I would add that "the wrong call" on Arizona has more to do with the timing than the direction. Fox did something you just don't F'ing do. Period. They called the state with voters in Arizona, particularly in Maricopa county, standing in line to vote. That was attributable to 1) the time difference and 2) our infamous election day only issues that kept election day voters in Arizona waiting for hours to vote. Fox came across as disingenuous and manipulative. There was a reason why nobody else was calling it, yet.

 

[RoyDawgMercer]

So only Fox is lying?

So where is the “legit” free press?

Does the “legit” free press snuff out dissenting opinion or encourage debate?

And who determines actual fact? We are way, way beyond being told pure actual fact from anyone.

If the media carries the government line forward, without question, the media should be feared. When debate is not encouraged or allowed we have no “free” press.

You seem to hold anyone with a different opinion as wrong. You hold so tight, it seems, to your chosen agenda, that one can’t disagree. While that is a freedom we enjoy in America, it is the exact thing we should fear. Especially when the government endorses it.

When we give the keys to the government, it is over.

Just my opinion. So we’ll just have to disagree.

What should be really feared is a society that tolerates any news organization hiding the facts, avoiding accurate reporting for the sake of viewer ratings, legitimatizes hate or violence, appeals to man's greatest weakness --- meritless fear. That's what Fox has done; those are the things Lying Donnie and his minions (most of whom are or have been in prison) has based his entire existence upon. The MAGA's imagine all this "distrust" toward government and their fears are catered too by channels such as Fox or Truth Social, etc., for the dollars. Why do you fear the government? Why do you fear the truth? Don't you realize that legit news organizations double or triple source their information? No debate our form om governance is messy. No debate that mistakes have and will be made or that people will fail into corruption. That's who we are as humans. But those realities do not validate grasping onto out right hate, abuse, and lies. Realize there is no "Shadow Government" or mysterious dark governmental plot or force working against you. We're all just people.

 

[nice marmot]

What should be really feared is a society that tolerates any news organization hiding the facts, avoiding accurate reporting for the sake of viewer ratings, legitimatizes hate or violence, appeals to man's greatest weakness --- meritless fear. That's what Fox has done; those are the things Lying Donnie and his minions (most of whom are or have been in prison) has based his entire existence upon. The MAGA's imagine all this "distrust" toward government and their fears are catered too by channels such as Fox or Truth Social, etc., for the dollars. Why do you fear the government? Why do you fear the truth? Don't you realize that legit news organizations double or triple source their information? No debate our form om governance is messy. No debate that mistakes have and will be made or that people will fail into corruption. That's who we are as humans. But those realities do not validate grasping onto out right hate, abuse, and lies. Realize there is no "Shadow Government" or mysterious dark governmental plot or force working against you. We're all just people.

This is hardly a new problem in America, just by the way and for the record. There was about a 25 year golden period (if that) when there was a very few set of ways to get national news. UPI / AP. CBS / NBC / ABC / PBS. etc. you had local papers doing their thing. etc.

And, of course, that only -seemed- wholesome and good.

Because at the time, of course, we had two right wings of a single party: the money party and the Rs and Ds were not nearly so far apart as they are today.

 

[cherrydawg]

I've never seen one person on here that disagreed with you on anything that you didn't label democrat or liberal. Not one person. I hope you don't conduct yourself that way in your personal life. You probably don't. But if you do, good luck with relationships.

Don't talk politics in real life, unless someone specifically asks me. Why does being called a lib bother you? You agree with them on everything we talk about here. Its like you weigh 1000 pounds and recent being told you are overweight.

 

[cherrydawg]

PW - I know you are a student of WW2. As such, I would expect you to be well acquainted with the role that the Goebbels propaganda machine played in the rise of the National Socialist party and the conditioning of the German people to embrace things in 1938 (Kristallnacht) that would have been unimaginable less than a decade prior.

Talking heads who are intentionally and knowingly lying to manipulate the public are at least as dangerous if not more so than politicians.

so we agree that cnn msnbc etc are dangerous liars and purveyors of disinfomation.

 

[cherrydawg]

Cherry, if you think I am repeating lies, please be specific about what lies and I’ll respond. Otherwise, your constant accusations with little or no substance in support is truly tiresome.

every time you quote cnn or the nyt or snopes or some leftwing twitter twit. You posted a crap load of russia russia russia. I'm pretty sure you were all in on the Charlottsville lie. I know you promoted the russian disinfo lie on hunters laptop and you have repeatedly said their is no evidence biden is a crook.. There that should keep you busy for now. I'm not going back and look them all up.. but you are a true believer in all things left wing reported by left wing media, and espoused by people like adam shiftless, schumer etal. You actually believe brandon is not a crook when he has been a liar his whole political life.. There is example after example of his lying. You also defend the fbi and the doj which are no more than arms of the dnc as being fair and honest. Only the blind and the brain dead can believe that.

 

[PotimusWillie]

What should be really feared is a society that tolerates any news organization hiding the facts, avoiding accurate reporting for the sake of viewer ratings, legitimatizes hate or violence, appeals to man's greatest weakness --- meritless fear. That's what Fox has done; those are the things Lying Donnie and his minions (most of whom are or have been in prison) has based his entire existence upon. The MAGA's imagine all this "distrust" toward government and their fears are catered too by channels such as Fox or Truth Social, etc., for the dollars. Why do you fear the government? Why do you fear the truth? Don't you realize that legit news organizations double or triple source their information? No debate our form om governance is messy. No debate that mistakes have and will be made or that people will fail into corruption. That's who we are as humans. But those realities do not validate grasping onto out right hate, abuse, and lies. Realize there is no "Shadow Government" or mysterious dark governmental plot or force working against you. We're all just people.

I won’t fight you on your opinion, that is your right.

The schematics is where we differ and we can debate.

Who determines truth? What authority determines the standard that the press is held to?

Meritless fear is a constant in every facet of our lives, especially with the advent of the web. Many of our proud and tested traditions have attacked and destroyed by baseless and meritless fear. And for what reason? Power.

The power fear brings me back to an over reaching centralized government that manipulates common economic and social norms to move political agenda.

Much of what is killing our society today, culturally, economically, and safety wise, is a determination to secure power of the country at any cost. It is here that I do not put my trust in a political government, but in my God. And to see political movements pushing us further from God is as vulgar as I can imagine. So that is a base line for me.

God places governments and their leaders in place, but also destroys them. A government, a country, cannot be placed before God.

Political leaders are given a pass. And this power is the key. It isn’t to provide and protect its citizens, it is to control the citizen and remain a power broker.

Man, left to his own accord will corrupt a system for power. That is why the citizen, not the government, should have the power.

So my question begs this. 1) Who determines what is true? 2) Who determines what can be said? 3) Who makes the rules for me to live a life of initiative and prosperity?

And in all of that, do you really want a press in lock step with the government?

 

[willdup]

every time you quote cnn or the nyt or snopes or some leftwing twitter twit. You posted a crap load of russia russia russia. I'm pretty sure you were all in on the Charlottsville lie. I know you promoted the russian disinfo lie on hunters laptop and you have repeatedly said their is no evidence biden is a crook.. There that should keep you busy for now. I'm not going back and look them all up.. but you are a true believer in all things left wing reported by left wing media, and espoused by people like adam shiftless, schumer etal. You actually believe brandon is not a crook when he has been a liar his whole political life.. There is example after example of his lying. You also defend the fbi and the doj which are no more than arms of the dnc as being fair and honest. Only the blind and the brain dead can believe

Trump asked for and received assistance from the Russians in the lead up to 2016. If you don’t believe me, read the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee report on the matter.

Trump could have handled Charlottesville better, but I do not believe he was stating direct support for the white supremacist tiki-torchers.

Regarding Biden, I have stated that I’d like to see evidence provided under oath. Given the persistent and outrageous lies about election fraud, it seems reasonable to withhold judgement until then.

And in a head to head battle of top liars to ever hold the presidency, Trump is the unquestioned champion. He’s still lying about the election when he knew within days he had lost.

 

[willdup]

The Russians are sad about Tucker’s departure. I wonder why?

 

[kckd]

Don't talk politics in real life, unless someone specifically asks me. Why does being called a lib bother you? You agree with them on everything we talk about here. Its like you weigh 1000 pounds and recent being told you are overweight.

you would be incorrect. It's just that most of what you talk about is conspiracy theory or rumor, not policy. You are the right version of cancel.

 

[cherrydawg]

you would be incorrect. It's just that most of what you talk about is conspiracy theory or rumor, not policy. You are the right version of cancel.

I am not incorrect. Show me a post where you disagreed with will are marmot the chief lib propagandist of chat. You can’t do it. You defend every left wing wet dream they talk about.

You should really pay closer attention to what you say if you don’t want to be recognized as a leftist.

 

[kckd]

Calm down @cherrydawg and tell me my what my views on policy are.
Again, most of what is being discussed on here is whether Trump stole the election, is responsible for the attack on the Capitol, debating whether there really was an attack on the Capitol, murdering babies with the day after pill, etc. etc. etc.

 

[cherrydawg]

Trump asked for and received assistance from the Russians in the lead up to 2016. If you don’t believe me, read the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee report on the matter.

Trump could have handled Charlottesville better, but I do not believe he was stating direct support for the white supremacist tiki-torchers.

Regarding Biden, I have stated that I’d like to see evidence provided under oath. Given the persistent and outrageous lies about election fraud, it seems reasonable to withhold judgement until then.

And in a head to head battle of top liars to ever hold the presidency, Trump is the unquestioned champion. He’s still lying about the election when he knew within days he had lost.

Your first point. What help did he ask for and receive? Even your beloved liberal sources have had to admit it was a hoax perpetrated by th he Dim candidate. Where is your outrage over that kind of lying election interference? You have none. You and Adam shiftless are 2 peas in a pod.

2. I don’t know how he could have handled it better. I read his speech. He did not say what your media and party claimed. Lies from the media and willing dims created all that. I’m not going back to look but I believe based on the way you are about everything else the left wing media reports, at leadt in the beginning a willing participant in saying Trump supported white supremacy. If I had more time I would check the archives.

3. I know for a fact you were all in on it being Russian disinformation. You don’t deny that. As far as evidence all I can say is WOW. Try opening your eyes.

4. Bull Skate. I don’t think you have any idea what your president spouts each and everyday. If it were not so sad it would be comical. He lies about things that are easily proven wrong but the media you trust doesn’t tell you this. Cornpop is a lie a minute kind of guy. Your TDS won’t allow you to be honest b

 

[cherrydawg]

Calm down and tell me my what my views on policy are.
Again, most of what is being discussed on here is whether Trump stole the election, is responsible for the attack on the Capitol, debating whether there really was an attack on the Capitol, murdering babies with the day after pill, etc. etc. etc.

I am calm. I’m off today. Going on an outing with the wife. She’s driving. I’m reclined.

I told you to show me a post of yours where you disagreed with the chief leftist of the chat. You can’t because you haven’t.

I don’t remember seeing any discussion specifically about the day after pill. You do agree twitch the leftist on abortion being “just a choice”.

Abortion is the ending of a human life. An innocent human life. The vast majority of embryologists agree a human life begins at conception. A slight majority says it’s ok to murder that life. Doesn’t make it right. The left, if they insist on being murderers should not force Christians to subsidize their evil. The same with homosexuality and the trans movement. The left cannot be happy with just letting people do their thing. The left insists that EVERYONE must accept these perversions as normal healthy activity and even worse are forcing this view on young children, mostly against the will of the parents. The gov should not be allowed to do such. Only leftist support this Gov overreach. I haven’t seen you disagreeing with the leftist on these topics.

So please show me if you have and I will apologize for lumping you in.

 

[kckd]

I am calm. I’m off today. Going on an outing with the wife. She’s driving. I’m reclined.

I told you to show me a post of yours where you disagreed with the chief leftist of the chat. You can’t because you haven’t.

I don’t remember seeing any discussion specifically about the day after pill. You do agree twitch the leftist on abortion being “just a choice”.

Abortion is the ending of a human life. An innocent human life. The vast majority of embryologists agree a human life begins at conception. A slight majority says it’s ok to murder that life. Doesn’t make it right. The left, if they insist on being murderers should not force Christians to subsidize their evil. The same with homosexuality and the trans movement. The left cannot be happy with just letting people do their thing. The left insists that EVERYONE must accept these perversions as normal healthy activity and even worse are forcing this view on young children, mostly against the will of the parents. The gov should not be allowed to do such. Only leftist support this Gov overreach. I haven’t seen you disagreeing with the leftist on these topics.

So please show me if you have and I will apologize for lumping you in.

I don't need to show you anything. But your view on abortion is pretty hard right. So if any thing left of that is "lib" to you, then okay. I'm pretty much where the majority of Americans stand on it based on polls.
Homosexuality, according to most Americans, isn't some horrible thing. I say live and let live. What do I care what two consenting people do on their own dime and with their own time? I've worked with homosexuals for two decades now. Some are friends. The vast majority I know are good people. I don't have any problem with them.
This sounds like you're not too happy for them "to do their thing".
Trans movement: If a grown man or woman feel they need to transition, then by all means do it if they get proper psychiatric and medical care.
I'm not for kids being transitioned. I don't even think it's okay if the parents are okay with it. I don't think enough study has been done on the long term effects. The British government recently had to shut down their most well known pediatric gender clinic in London due to investigation finding that children weren't properly treated. I think we may be headed in the same direction.
I'm not for biological males competing in women sports.
I'm for balancing the budget and cutting spending where we can. Actually these days in regards to balancing the budget, I'm not sure what that makes me, but it's certainly not a Republican or Democrat.

 

[cherrydawg]

I don't need to show you anything. But your view on abortion is pretty hard right. So if any thing left of that is "lib" to you, then okay. I'm pretty much where the majority of Americans stand on it based on polls.
Homosexuality, according to most Americans, isn't some horrible thing. I say live and let live. What do I care what two consenting people do on their own dime and with their own time? I've worked with homosexuals for two decades now. Some are friends. The vast majority I know are good people. I don't have any problem with them.
This sounds like you're not too happy for them "to do their thing".
Trans movement: If a grown man or woman feel they need to transition, then by all means do it if they get proper psychiatric and medical care.
I'm not for kids being transitioned. I don't even think it's okay if the parents are okay with it. I don't think enough study has been done on the long term effects. The British government recently had to shut down their most well known pediatric gender clinic in London due to investigation finding that children weren't properly treated. I think we may be headed in the same direction.
I'm not for biological males competing in women sports.
I'm for balancing the budget and cutting spending where we can. Actually these days in regards to balancing the budget, I'm not sure what that makes me, but it's certainly not a Republican or Democrat.

My views are not hard right. My views are in line with Common sense thinking and Gods word. The twists and turns leftist take to excuse themselves from the guilt of killing an innocent human baby are amazing.

Why does the left insist on normalizing homosexuality and forcing others to accept it. Why does the left want to indoctrinate children. Homosexuality is a sin. The gov should not be forcing perversion on everyone. I have repeatedly said if someone wants to do that have at it. Just keep it in private. Problem is the left wants to force it into the mainstream.

Accepting anything as being the right thing based on majority believe something is not a good way to decide on things. The word of God says the majority will miss heaven. Also, supposedly the majority voted for Biden. What more proof do you need that the majority are not always right?

 

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[kckd]

My views are not hard right. My views are in line with Common sense thinking and Gods word. The twists and turns leftist take to excuse themselves from the guilt of killing an innocent human baby are amazing.

Why does the left insist on normalizing homosexuality and forcing others to accept it. Why does the left want to indoctrinate children. Homosexuality is a sin. The gov should not be forcing perversion on everyone. I have repeatedly said if someone wants to do that have at it. Just keep it in private. Problem is the left wants to force it into the mainstream.

Accepting anything as being the right thing based on majority believe something is not a good way to decide on things. The word of God says the majority will miss heaven. Also, supposedly the majority voted for Biden. What more proof do you need that the majority are not always right?

Cherry, you have every right to believe what you want. But in the box of ideologues, you are the conservative prototype. And just as much certain that you are right about everything as the leftist ideologues are.

 

[willdup]

Your first point. What help did he ask for and receive? Even your beloved liberal sources have had to admit it was a hoax perpetrated by th he Dim candidate. Where is your outrage over that kind of lying election interference? You have none. You and Adam shiftless are 2 peas in a pod.

2. I don’t know how he could have handled it better. I read his speech. He did not say what your media and party claimed. Lies from the media and willing dims created all that. I’m not going back to look but I believe based on the way you are about everything else the left wing media reports, at leadt in the beginning a willing participant in saying Trump supported white supremacy. If I had more time I would check the archives.

3. I know for a fact you were all in on it being Russian disinformation. You don’t deny that. As far as evidence all I can say is WOW. Try opening your eyes.

4. Bull Skate. I don’t think you have any idea what your president spouts each and everyday. If it were not so sad it would be comical. He lies about things that are easily proven wrong but the media you trust doesn’t tell you this. Cornpop is a lie a minute kind of guy. Your TDS won’t allow you to be honest b

Trump asked for the Russians to hack Dem emails, which they did on or around the same day, and promised they would be rewarded. Those emails were conveniently released within hours of the Trump p**sygrab audio tape, and were effective in helping to dull the impact of that audio.

Trump’s campaign manager shared private polling data with Konstatin Kilimnik, who is closely associated with Russian intelligence.

I’m fact, Paul Manafort had so many ties to Russian intelligence he was determined to be a grave intelligence threat.

The rest of the Russian campaign to influence the election in favor of DJT is all well documented.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

 

[willdup]

My views are not hard right. My views are in line with Common sense thinking and Gods word.

Accepting anything as being the right thing based on majority believe something is not a good way to decide on things. The word of God says the majority will miss heaven. Also, supposedly the majority voted for Biden. What more proof do you need that the majority are not always right?

Claims to not be hard right, proceeds to provide a near perfect example of Christian Fascists thinking.

 

[cherrydawg]

Trump asked for the Russians to hack Dem emails, which they did on or around the same day, and promised they would be rewarded. Those emails were conveniently released within hours of the Trump p**sygrab audio tape, and were effective in helping to dull the impact of that audio.

Trump’s campaign manager shared private polling data with Konstatin Kilimnik, who is closely associated with Russian intelligence.

I’m fact, Paul Manafort had so many ties to Russian intelligence he was determined to be a grave intelligence threat.

The rest of the Russian campaign to influence the election in favor of DJT is all well documented.

View embedded media

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

HA HA HA>. exactly what I thought you would say. Trump made a joke about her emails You know that. You have to make stuff up to cover for your TDS.

If Trump was guilty of what you claim yall would have hung him by a rope in the capital rotunda. What manafort did was for his own personal gain. To curry favor for future business dealings. There is no evidence Trump knew or ordered it done.

As far as what the Russians did... Again, you have to be kidding me. A few twitter bots influenced the election? Give me a break.

I notice you did not respond to the hilda beast paying for and distributing a false dossier. I believe that to be far far worse than what manafort did. Your side continually screams and whines and calls foul for nothing burgers while your own pols are the for real criminals. Now its your turn to tell me how she was investigated etc. etc etc etc etc. If you are honest, you know, and would admit, the fbi doj are all in for dims a cover their backsides. They went ALLLLLLL IN AGAINST TRUMP and anyone associated with him to try and oust him while turning a blind eye to the crap pulled first by hillary and now brandon. Brandon is a comprimised puppet in the white house and YOU DO NOT CARE> YOU DO NOT TRY TO SEE YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND>

 

[elevator]

This is an indication of who runs the media in general.

Fox cancels #1 rated shows. They did it to O’Rielly, and now Tucker. Who cancels #1 shows?

Tucker and O’Reilly spoke their mind and didn’t carry the company line. That is honest and should be held up in respect. One doesn’t have to agree with a person to respect them. It’s the company stooge that should be booed off. That is why CNN and MSNBC performs so poorly in ratings. All you get are company line repeaters.

I am a huge Tucker fan, but don’t always agree with him. And it is because he speaks what he believes is the truth. I can disagree with him, but it isn’t Murdock thought, or the WH propaganda, no matter who’s in office.

And that is all you can ask from an opinion talking head.

Fox will fill it and stay #1. But it makes no difference to me. I will follow Tucker wherever he goes. I like his opinion.

The option is “all the above” and that doesn’t move me.

I watched Tucker for his opinion, not because he was on Fox. I only watched the replays on YouTube anyway.

Question, why is media questioning the government a bad thing?

Seriously? Tucker and the rest of the admitted in their emails they didn't belive the bs they were spouting about the election. Honest? Get real dude.