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The right's inability to discern fact reporting from opinion is exactly why they find themselves where they are. case in point.
 
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The right's inability to discern fact reporting from opinion is exactly why they find themselves where they are. case in point.
I get the difference. The point ppl like you don’t understand is that the reason FOX exists, and why Rush became popular, is precisely bc the legacy media supports the Dems and lib POV every day, all day, and on every issue. They are not honest brokers of journalism. When a vacuum such as this is created, someone will fill it.
 
I get the difference. The point ppl like you don’t understand is that the reason FOX exists, and why Rush became popular, is precisely bc the legacy media supports the Dems and lib POV every day, all day, and on every issue. They are not honest brokers of journalism. When a vacuum such as this is created, someone will fill it.
I know you get the difference.

The notion that only the left spins in MSM is part of the reason that FOX and Rush became popular, yes, but it is only a notion.

There is a long history and tradition of rightest opinion in media, and more specifically, lobbyist opinion presented as fact.

(and the dude in the tweet you shared is just an outrage peddler to the intellectually lazy, which he seems to be himself)
 
I know you get the difference.

The notion that only the left spins in MSM is part of the reason that FOX and Rush became popular, yes, but it is only a notion.

There is a long history and tradition of rightest opinion in media, and more specifically, lobbyist opinion presented as fact.

(and the dude in the tweet you shared is just an outrage peddler to the intellectually lazy, which he seems to be himself)
I go back to a statement made in 2017 which I think is relevant, if not for Fox News Trump would most likely have been impeached because of the Russian hoax. That might be an exaggeration but there were several networks running nightly shows screaming for impeachment saying evidence was everywhere. Now your counter argument maybe CNN and others would not have gone ultra Liberal if it were not far Fox and I think that is relevant. Regardless, MSM has not only gotten more liberal, it is more emboldened thus the disconnect from 70% of country which is much less partisan about most issues like this particular one - loan forgiveness for the masses by the executive branch
 
I go back to a statement made in 2017 which I think is relevant, if not for Fox News Trump would most likely have been impeached because of the Russian hoax. That might be an exaggeration but there were several networks running nightly shows screaming for impeachment saying evidence was everywhere. Now your counter argument maybe CNN and others would not have gone ultra Liberal if it were not far Fox and I think that is relevant. Regardless, MSM has not only gotten more liberal, it is more emboldened thus the disconnect from 70% of country which is much less partisan about most issues like this particular one - loan forgiveness for the masses by the executive branch
I disagree. The right has gone farther right, which is why it seems that MSM is more left, but in fact NYT CNN all have public editors moving them right to catch up. On most issues this overton window continues to shift right. Hollywood is a different story.
 
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I disagree. The right has gone farther right, which is why it seems that MSM is more left, but in fact NYT CNN all have public editors moving them right to catch up. On most issues this overton window continues to shift right. Hollywood is a different story.
I will concur that CNN has moved from the loony tuned left toward the middle. I think if they moved more middle they would get more viewers like myself. CNN opinion piece today about Fox was informative but seemed hypocritical to me, regardless I do scan it daily to see what I might be missing. In fact, I scan it before Drudge which has gone upside down, not sure of their target market
 
I disagree. The right has gone farther right, which is why it seems that MSM is more left, but in fact NYT CNN all have public editors moving them right to catch up. On most issues this overton window continues to shift right. Hollywood is a different story.
The right has barely moved! The left has gone so far left, the right looks as if it has swung from center. The left is the party of child grooming, gender as one chooses that particular moment in time ( it’s fluid) , killing fetuses like they were roaches, selling fetus body parts for profit, defund the police, let the border admit any person that crosses it, paying homeless to stay homeless( while creating the conditions to create more homeless). They are the party of emboldening our enemies, trashing our economy, killing our energy sector in the name of a false climate crisis. Other than that they seem just like the crooked party they were 60 years ago. I don’t care for the pubs either.
 
I wish. I am long paid.
Me too. Multiple times. Including
I know you get the difference.

The notion that only the left spins in MSM is part of the reason that FOX and Rush became popular, yes, but it is only a notion.

There is a long history and tradition of rightest opinion in media, and more specifically, lobbyist opinion presented as fact.

(and the dude in the tweet you shared is just an outrage peddler to the intellectually lazy, which he seems to be himself)
Nobody said the Left holds a monopoly on bias. But if you think historically the opinions leaned Right, you need to quit reading Daily Kos.
 
Me too. Multiple times. Including

Nobody said the Left holds a monopoly on bias. But if you think historically the opinions leaned Right, you need to quit reading Daily Kos.
Both sides suck, the republicans claim to represent the conservative views, yet turn their backs on any conservative fiscal policies, pretend to fight for their platform of promises, only to roll line a drunken tourist! They never have to worry about crime, paying exorbitant taxes, retirement, health care. They should have the same laws affect their lives as the legislation they pass on us. It’s really that simple. We need to hold them all accountable, which seems more impossible than Hillary Clinton telling the truth
 
Me too. Multiple times. Including

Nobody said the Left holds a monopoly on bias. But if you think historically the opinions leaned Right, you need to quit reading Daily Kos.
you couldn't pay me to read the Daily Kos.

nor Glenn Greenwald even when he was at Slate. hahaha Slate

this is the funny thing about media: it elevates anyone who can climb onto a platform. not unlike politics
 
The right has barely moved! The left has gone so far left, the right looks as if it has swung from center. The left is the party of child grooming, gender as one chooses that particular moment in time ( it’s fluid) , killing fetuses like they were roaches, selling fetus body parts for profit, defund the police, let the border admit any person that crosses it, paying homeless to stay homeless( while creating the conditions to create more homeless). They are the party of emboldening our enemies, trashing our economy, killing our energy sector in the name of a false climate crisis. Other than that they seem just like the crooked party they were 60 years ago. I don’t care for the pubs either.
It has gone so far left of center it is not in view. You forgot socialism too. The right is in the same place from the most part. Maybe a little farther right. But not that far, really Just from a different view. The media makes the narrative the same for all righties. We can’t think for ourselves of course. Commercials. Tv shows. They all have the same propoganda. My age group is taking a new beating. I am evil now on every tv program. I am also racist when possible. Not to mention the dumbass that needs every basic task explained to me. Heaven help us if it is complicated. Not to mention how they view anyone who leans right.

I used to actually pick a candidate to vote for due to how they stand on issues. Who represents my interest. I leaned to the middle. Now you can’t even do that. There is no way anyone at this juncture will ever run from the left that I can even consider. Biden is a great example. Obama literally chose him as a vp, because he was a Lilly white, racist, middle of the road democrat. He was the perfect running mate for him. He was a segregationist. Now this mfer is so far left of left he makes Obama look conservative. You are batshit crazy if you believe otherwise. Biden was calling gang lands the jungle in 94. And called the members predators that would rape and mug your wife and daughter. Right there in front of congress. But he hasn’t moved left at all. Get the fvck off the planet with that line of bullshvt. @nice marmot Ironically the guy you claimed moved the gop way right, was a Democrat for 45 years. And while president governed more from the middle. You can’t make up this level of brainwashing
 
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you couldn't pay me to read the Daily Kos.

nor Glenn Greenwald even when he was at Slate. hahaha Slate

this is the funny thing about media: it elevates anyone who can climb onto a platform. not unlike politics
The truth is there is very little that separates us. The media and pols push and highlight the extreme simply for eyeballs and votes. There are only a couple of social issues where there is some division, but even if there is it far less than portrayed. Economically, we’re almost all on the same page too. But, there’s money and politics in division.

But we better start paying ****ing attention to China.
 
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