That is a flawed premise and illogical. You would want to spread it out as much as possible and still achieve your goal in the swing states so it would not be so obvious.If this didnt happen in swing states it proves it wasnt due to fraud.
That is a flawed premise and illogical. You would want to spread it out as much as possible and still achieve your goal in the swing states so it would not be so obvious.If this didnt happen in swing states it proves it wasnt due to fraud.
IncorrectBut there was record turnout in 2024 across the country. Georgia broke records for early voting.
There was no unusual increase in the swing states.That is a flawed premise and illogical. You would want to spread it out as much as possible and still achieve your goal in the swing states so it would not be so obvious.
You’re right. While some states had increased turnout and broke records for early voting, overall turnout was lower. Thanks for the correction.Incorrect
81,000,000 completed ballots vs 81,000,000 actual voters. We all saw videos of folks showing up a 2 am at a remote drop box with so many ballots they looked like a deck of cards. One obvious reason why the overall decline in numbers.Where did they come from?
Where did they go?
Georgia votes were up this year. So what are you even talking about?81,000,000 completed ballots vs 81,000,000 actual voters. We all saw videos of folks showing up a 2 am at a remote drop box with so many ballots they looked like a deck of cards. One obvious reason why the overall decline in numbers.
We all know what happened. But we survived 4 years of terrible leadership at the WH, so now we can turn the page and look forward to better days going forward.The outlier is crazy just at first glance. It’s even crazier and lacks sense when you realize that the outlier occurred during…..COVID lol I mean come on! Something happened and it’s not crazy to believe there was some fraud involved.
700,000 more votes in Penn in 2020 vs 2016. Over a 10% increase.It was a great scheme. Get extra votes in California, that’s the way to steal an election.
It’s no secret that Trump wins when voter turnout is low.700,000 more votes in Penn in 2020 vs 2016. Over a 10% increase.
400,000 more votes in Wisconsin. About a 15% increase.
I could go on. All for a guy who rarely left his basement! Right.
No matter. About 70 days before this country changes for the better!
Source?It’s no secret that Trump wins when voter turnout is low.
Touche. He hasnt really been in enough races to really prove that. So I retractSource?
I think that's something that's assumed, but we have zero evidence on. Compare '20 (weirdly high turnout) to '24 (higher than '20) and I thank you for admitting that it's a guess.Touche. He hasnt really been in enough races to really prove that. So I retract
GA was decided by 12k votes. Could have easily been manipulated.55dawg did the work- there were no extra votes in the states that actually decided the election in 2020 @ugaboz
I guess it could have, being intellectually honest. I just dont think this incomplete top line number proves - or even suggests - thatGA was decided by 12k votes. Could have easily been manipulated.
🤔2020 was a total theft by the Democrat party. They invented 20 million fraudulent ballots for Biden.
They know that they were being watched this year and they couldn’t get away with it.🤔
Split tooth had a lot to do with the shenanigans in Ga in 2020 …not this yr!
By 300,000.Georgia votes were up this year. So what are you even talking about?
That’s framing it to back your point. No different than the other differing points.It’s no secret that Trump wins when voter turnout is low.
lolIncorrect
Interesting that it took so long to count these votes when enough were counted nationwide to call the election that night like we've been used to except 2020.It appears - based on the remaining outstanding votes in the western states, that this year’s total vote will be around the same of even more than 2020. @Dawg 'n IT
compare the total in the big cities like atlanta Philly chicago and u will find out where tje 2020 votes came from2020 was a total theft by the Democrat party. They invented 20 million fraudulent ballots for Biden.
You are out of mind if was tyhatbmany votes they could call the election I doubt there 2 million votes left no where close to 20 millionIt appears - based on the remaining outstanding votes in the western states, that this year’s total vote will be around the same of even more than 2020. @Dawg 'n IT
Those estimated votes remaining are based on 2020 numbers. Once all the votes are counted if the will be counted I think we will see there is not that many outstanding votes.It appears - based on the remaining outstanding votes in the western states, that this year’s total vote will be around the same of even more than 2020. @Dawg 'n IT
Its not interesting or surprising at all. Every single election cycle Cali and AZ take forever to count. We don’t usually care about Cali for obvious reasons.Interesting that it took so long to count these votes when enough were counted nationwide to call the election that night like we've been used to except 2020.
Said differently, every single election cycle Cali and AZ cheat with fraudulent votes.Its not interesting or surprising at all. Every single election cycle Cali and AZ take forever to count. We don’t usually care about Cali for obvious reasons.
I need an exasperated emojiSaid differently, every single election cycle Cali and AZ cheat with fraudulent votes.
Just because something happens frequently doesn't mean it's correct.
Stay tuned.
Despite winning, Trump is still going to call into question vote counting practices in 2024 which will point us back to 2020. He's not going to let it go.
My personal opinion is that will open the doors to a full retrospective on previous elections all they way back to when Democrats and Republicans alike voiced concern over computerized voting integrity.
Or stop blindly defending against scrutiny to protect an ideal.I need an exasperated emoji
Nobody really opposes reform. Just exhausted by the constant self-interested fraud claims. If you have a legislative proposal involving paper ballots nobody will really care. In fact after the 2000 election Dems wanted the same thing, and the GOP House opposedOr stop blindly defending against scrutiny to protect an ideal.
Regardless of my opinion or anyone else's, why has scrutiny over computerized elections created political opposition from one side?
Since when has scrutiny not been a part of government function in our country? I guess when enough people with something to hide got in charge.
Otherwise, it's never made sense to avoid scrutiny when confident you're correct.
Also if the dems hated trump so much and thought his second term would be dictatorship , why where they not my motivated that 2020?clearly those extra votes came because joe biden was the greatest political candidate in American history.......
FWIW, I don't believe I've ever told someone who they should vote for here or in life in general. All I've done is question inconsistencies with presented data and the behaviors said data is supposed to describe.
The final analysis on voter participation in 2024 will be interesting, particularly how it relates to 2016 and 2020.
Who showed up more than usual?
Who flipped?
Who stayed home?
The why to those questions will be interesting to know.
2016: 136,669,276
2020: 158,429,631
2024: 139,514,728*
*2024 votes are still being counted.
As you can see, 2020's total votes cast is way out of line given population growth and being in a pandemic when many lives were lost and normal public participation was severely altered.
Trump's popular count hit 62 million in 2016, 74 million in 2020, and is 71 million this morning with votes still coming in.
Clinton's popular count was almost 66 million in 2016, Biden's popular count was 81 million in 2020 while Harris is only at 66 million this morning.
The 2 most alarming increases came in 2020 for both candidates, however Trump's 2024 count is on pace to be similar while Harris's count is regressing back to Clinton's 2016 count.
This leaves Biden's 81 million as the most alarming figure in consideration.
As I asked many times, where did these extra votes come from and now where did they go?
I’ve been wondering the same damn thing about Cotton Eyed Joe.Where did they come from?
Where did they go?
It appears the dropoff was in states that were irrelevant in the presidential election. But it’s probably way too early to do a full analysisAlso if the dems hated trump so much and thought his second term would be dictatorship , why where they not my motivated that 2020?
Weren’t many RINOs not voting for trump as well?
I would have expected more votes than 2020?
Who didn’t vote for Kamala then?? Where did his voters go??
I'm glad you agree that some reform is necessary, but I can't advocate for reform if I don't know specifically where the problems reside. That's precisely why someone needs to look.Nobody really opposes reform. Just exhausted by the constant self-interested fraud claims. If you have a legislative proposal involving paper ballots nobody will really care. In fact after the 2000 election Dems wanted the same thing, and the GOP House opposed
Nice one.I’ve been wondering the same damn thing about Cotton Eyed Joe.
So you are suggesting investigating all elections including this one on suspicion of voter fraud? I personally don’t believe Trump stole the election, but if you think so, maybe we should investigate.I'm glad you agree that some reform is necessary, but I can't advocate for reform if I don't know specifically where the problems reside. That's precisely why someone needs to look.
Fifteen million that voted for JoeNice one.