Trying to determine if some truly got canned with no severance.
all this crying about gov employees being terminated did some of them not get the 8 month severance offer?
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Yes. People are being “canned” for no reason and with little explanation.
I spent all most of the day working on our list of probational employees. Some incredibly talented people with skillsets that we looked high and low for a long time. Oh well.
“Are you entertained?!”
I feel sick to my stomach.
I spent all most of the day working on our list of probational employees. Some incredibly talented people with skillsets that we looked high and low for a long time. Oh well.
“Are you entertained?!”
I feel sick to my stomach.
I am so sorry. There has to be a better way than how this has been handled.
From OPM:
Although there is this floating out there:
OPM advises agencies to fire probationary employees after ‘deferred resignation’ deadline
OPM stopped accepting new offers for its deferred resignation offer, as of 7:20 p.m. on Wednesday night.
federalnewsnetwork.com
Federal employees on probation do not have to be fired, OPM says
The OPM framed the severance offer from President Trump and his administration as "administrative leave with pay and benefits."
www.newsweek.com
I know it is tough, I lost 10 out of 60 during Clinton's cuts
Trump’s getting started on getting some private sector jobs into the US. You guys hang in there until he does that.
No. Why would you assume that?
Because he doesn't know anything. Check his posts.
I am…if you count 12 days shy of a year new to my job. Does that make me bad at my job?
Biden delivered on his pledge to restore the civil service. It's more bloated than ever.
“President Biden has overseen a nearly 6% growth of the full-time, non-seasonal federal workforce during his four years in office, including a jump at nearly every major agency.”
“The number of federal employees has topped 3 million since September 2024. The last time the government could claim that many employees was in September 1994.”
See where and how Biden grew the federal workforce
“President Biden has overseen a nearly 6% growth of the full-time, non-seasonal federal workforce during his four years in office, including a jump at nearly every major agency.”
“The number of federal employees has topped 3 million since September 2024. The last time the government could claim that many employees was in September 1994.”
See where and how Biden grew the federal workforce
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Are those people losing their jobs without severance? Can you say what area you work in? I would think there was legal recourse if people are fired without cause and no severance.
The reason is cutting the workforce to save money, private companies do it all the time. There is even a term for it.
Downsizing-
The reduction of expenditures and personnel in order to become financially stable.
wait until AI really kicks in and starts replacing desk jobs
GM layed off a 1k white collar workers last year and took resignations from 5k trying to cut cost. The buyout offers were only given to those with five years experience or two years as a global executive.
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Downsizing happens all the time. It makes sense as efficiency is gained in the marketplace. Displaced workers can find other jobs if they wish to work and in most cases the severance pay is more than adequate, unless of source it is spent unwisely. Some workers think they are entitled to a good job even when their performance says otherwise. It takes a "special" person to work for the government if you are a person of integrity as you wish to do a good job regardless of your fellow worker. Some workers, not all, treat their job as an entitlement. They only want the paycheck. I worked for the govt. for 25 years and believe me 50 % of the workers do 90% of the work. The 50% that do 10% of the work are usually the ones that are promoted as some work is necessary. If you have not been in that situation, you can not really know how inefficient the government workplace is. I only hope the USPS in on the DOGE list.
if you did nothing wrong but if your boss did something he was doing wrong I don't feel sorry for you that person caused you to lose your job.
Perhaps someday some bored individual that knows nothing about what you do will send you a notice of termination just because they feel like it.
Don't be mad at the people fixing the problem, be mad at those who created it.
While this is likely true, do we have any idea if those being fired fall into the 90% category or the 10% category?
These blanket firings do not lead me to any conclusion that things will be more efficient. An argument could be made just the same that this is only going to make things worse.
I know one thing ,
You are clueless ✊✊
And by the way look what you just posted lol
Again go sit in the corner corky
Being a former fed leo, I have seen probationary employees called in the day before, their 1 yr probation is up, let go. Fair no, part of life yes. The problem, if I remember correctly, is the not retained employees fall under the 1 yr rule. Where you have to wait a year to apply for another fed job. I know some doj agencies have that 1 year rule.
The letter I got 50 years ago sure sounds similar to what I saw posted here. When I went through the RIF and I was probationary the letter covered a multitude of reasons including budget cuts, performance, etc,
" When federal employees are in their probationary period, which are usually a year long, although sometimes longer, agencies can terminate their employment for any reason without affording due process, just as occurs in the private sector. The only limit is that the reason must not violate law – in other words, the decision to terminate cannot be based on discrimination, whistleblower retaliation, partisan political affiliation, or because the employee exercised their rights to free speech or assembly as protected by the First Amendment."
If someone is past the probationary period then there must be a specific reason for termination
Also if an employee takes a buyout they will have to wait 5 years to be rehired or else have to pay the buyout back to the Gov.
You are right in that some will be protected regardless of their performance while some of the best will be let go because they may not be considered as supportive of the management team. Working for the government is very frustrating and is a good argument for privatization when the nature of the work does not prohibit it.
That’s how he kept the unemployment numbers low. They claimed that private sector was doing the hiring but the government was actually doing it.
Your comment about AI is spot on...people can't fathom what is coming down the Pike. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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