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I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
None of them are real news reporting services, but if you're going to lay blame, start with NYT and WaPo. Biased frauds who were paid millions by USAID to lie to us.
 
I think it’s clear people on this board don’t know what “news” or a “newspaper” is.
That’s bullshit. The MSM that is being kicked out of the pentagon have not been critical of the government. They have been complicit propagandists. Time to give new media a shot at getting it right.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
Since you are so concerned about an unbiased media, I am sure you called for these conservative news sources to be included during the Biden administration?

It is all good for you until the shoe is on the other foot.

You are right by the way, but don’t lecture on the need for balanced media coverage now.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
STFU
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
Yep, I like most of what Trump has done so far but I’m not a fan of the pettiness. It undermines his legitimate policy initiatives.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
Not really a fan of the move, I'd say have no press offices inside the Pentagon, but it doesn't stop anybody from digging for stories and reporting news. It's more symbolic than anything and I'm sure Hegseth is hoping for questions about the move. I mean lets face facts. CNN, CBS, the NBC group, WAPO, the NYT and other so called non partisan news orgs have been nothing more than statist cheerleaders for decades. Trump understands these orgs have rigged the game against him and he's simply going to play it the other way this term. So while I don't agree with the move, I'm fine telling them to gfts as well.
 
None of them should be in the pentagon. Period. And absolutely not a penny of taxpayer money should be slotted to any of them. They are either completely independent or they “owe” someone.
With that said, the absolute bias in news reporting has been absurd in the last 20ish years.
 
That’s bullshit. The MSM that is being kicked out of the pentagon have not been critical of the government. They have been complicit propagandists. Time to give new media a shot at getting it right.
It’s not like they are going to disappear. Like them or not, millions turn to these outlets for the news. Trump is much better served to take them head on. Like he’s always done.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
I don’t necessarily disagree but the only difference between the organizations are the fact that one side still pretends they are unbiased. The closest thing to unbiased that I see is WSJ. I’m with you thought. Let em all report what they want and let people decide for themselves.
 
Yep, I like most of what Trump has done so far but I’m not a fan of the pettiness. It undermines his legitimate policy initiatives.
Agreed. I would like him to publicly say he will not prosecute anyone for the bullshit done to him in the lead-up to the election, but he will investigate. And it is totally fair to fire someone who has proven to be either insubordinate or overtly political in a role that should not be.
 
Agreed. I would like him to publicly say he will not prosecute anyone for the bullshit done to him in the lead-up to the election, but he will investigate. And it is totally fair to fire someone who has proven to be either insubordinate or overtly political in a role that should not be.
Not sure how he can say that. If someone broke the law in order to frame him or violated campaign law, they should at least be held accountable and pay a fine. It's not like everything done to try to torpedo him was legal.
 
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Not sure how he can say that. If someone broke the law in order to frame him or violated campaign law, they should at least be held accountable and pay a fine. It's not like everything done to try to torpedo him was legal.
True. But it would give him the high ground in the entire lawfare argument. Ultimately it would make those investigations more effective…..and exposing the bullshit is more important than making sure someone sits in a jail.
 
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I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
CNN is definitely not the only people that criticise the government. There's msnbc,nbc,abc, and cbs among others. I disagree with your statement.
 
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True. But it would give him the high ground in the entire lawfare argument. Ultimately it would make those investigations more effective…..and exposing the bullshit is more important than making sure someone sits in a jail.
Before the election, I held a similar position but once Biden issued preemptive pardons, I think he ceded the high ground to Trump. My thoughts are Trump should issue a statement that he is not going to get involved with any investigations but that he will support fact based investigations and if that involves prosecutions, so be it. If serious violations are discovered, I'm not sure turning a blind eye and giving those that knowingly broke the law to influence our elections helps the country.

The Dems took full contact politics to another level so I'm not sure playing 2 hand touch with them is the answer. If they can continue their standard MO with the only consequences being a nasty letter, they won't stop.
 
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That’s bullshit. The MSM that is being kicked out of the pentagon have not been critical of the government. They have been complicit propagandists. Time to give new media a shot at getting it right.
Don't think that any of them are worth a shat, but some are better than others. The news has become a soap opera/entertainment (24/7) /opinions & political - has been for "long time now". Guess they all have to fill it in with some BS to pay the bills, so the advertisers will keep paying big bucks.

Would be happy to just have the news on just 30 minutes a day, but that ain't happening...to profitable.

Division sells.....
 
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I don’t necessarily disagree but the only difference between the organizations are the fact that one side still pretends they are unbiased. The closest thing to unbiased that I see is WSJ. I’m with you thought. Let em all report what they want and let people decide for themselves.
Exactly. Let them report on the Trump presidency and if people don’t like it, they’ll vote the republicans out. Sounds fair.

But to be banning the only media that would be critical is 1) completely unethical, 2) stupid, and 3) goes against what our founders stood for. It’s simply in-American.
 
Not really a fan of the move, I'd say have no press offices inside the Pentagon, but it doesn't stop anybody from digging for stories and reporting news. It's more symbolic than anything and I'm sure Hegseth is hoping for questions about the move. I mean lets face facts. CNN, CBS, the NBC group, WAPO, the NYT and other so called non partisan news orgs have been nothing more than statist cheerleaders for decades. Trump understands these orgs have rigged the game against him and he's simply going to play it the other way this term. So while I don't agree with the move, I'm fine telling them to gfts as well.
But there is a reason you should not be fine with this move.

Everybody is so hyper emotional and wrapped up in the moment that people forget that just a month ago, we had a democrat who was president. And then another 48 months, there’s a good chance. We have another Democratic president. What if they kick out all the center and right leaning news organizations? And what if that becomes normal now that Trump has done it? The obvious problem with that is now there is nobody who is actually digging into the behavior of the government. And that is the primary job of the press.

Does the main stream media come harder after Republicans and conservatives? Of course! And I accept that as a challenge. But the solution is not to become a totalitarian and start banning news organizations from reporting on the government.

When people say Trump is a wanna be dictator, this is the kind of stuff they are talking about.

If Russia banned all the critical news organizations and gather all their billionaires together, to decide how they were going to divvy up the economy, we would say they were communist.
 
Yep, I like most of what Trump has done so far but I’m not a fan of the pettiness. It undermines his legitimate policy initiatives.
Exactly. He actually has some good ideas. But he is so hyper insecure about who he is as a person, but he gets really into vindictiveness and pettiness.

It does not reflect well on the ethos of the country.

That being said, if the Democrats are going to nominate Kamala Harris, did they get what you deserve.
 
Exactly. Let them report on the Trump presidency and if people don’t like it, they’ll vote the republicans out. Sounds fair.

But to be banning the only media that would be critical is 1) completely unethical, 2) stupid, and 3) goes against what our founders stood for. It’s simply in-American.
Critical is one thing. Flat out lying and cheerleading for political purposes terminates the right to call yourself a journalist, and thus rescinds your right to sit at the *Press* table.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
 
I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
Huffington Post anyone....they make CNN look like Romper Room sometimes
 
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But there is a reason you should not be fine with this move.

Everybody is so hyper emotional and wrapped up in the moment that people forget that just a month ago, we had a democrat who was president. And then another 48 months, there’s a good chance. We have another Democratic president. What if they kick out all the center and right leaning news organizations? And what if that becomes normal now that Trump has done it? The obvious problem with that is now there is nobody who is actually digging into the behavior of the government. And that is the primary job of the press.

Does the main stream media come harder after Republicans and conservatives? Of course! And I accept that as a challenge. But the solution is not to become a totalitarian and start banning news organizations from reporting on the government.

When people say Trump is a wanna be dictator, this is the kind of stuff they are talking about.

If Russia banned all the critical news organizations and gather all their billionaires together, to decide how they were going to divvy up the economy, we would say they were communist.
Have you been asleep since the 90s? Expecting to treat the Dems and MSM with dignity and honor in the hopes they reciprocte is a fools errand. The Dems have proven nothing is out of bounds and the Pubs have been forgiving and forgetting (or playing along) for decades. DJT and his admin ignoring slanted stories and calls for violence by Dem pols won't inspire honor among Dems and journos with and agenda and motivate them to act like adults. They understand what has worked for them in the past and that is attacking. DJT won because he plays politics like a dem and returned fire. I don't think he should use all of the Dem's tactics but the ball is now in his court and he's completely justified if he spikes it on their heads.

Next, stop with the dictator BS. O wouldn't appear on Fox for 2 years and took questions from them much less than other outlets. Joe didn't do an interview with anything other than lapdogs during his term and was even given cards with the names of journos he would acknowledge. O and Biden threatened journos, hacked journos and censored journos so I think we should understand which side is the threat to non partisan news coverage. We know Trump will talk to anyone so he's not censoring, he's simply taking away the honored seats from those that have demonstrated they have no honor. To my knowledge, Trump has never tried to censor news orgs or "banned" them from anything. Hell, he seems to enjoy fighting with them.
 
Welcome to a dictatorship.
James Rosen, Catherine Herridge and Sharyl Attkisson say hey. The NYP and any covid or jab critics would like you to know they were censored. Every person that had a health insurance policy they liked and could afford but were forced to buy a shitty policy at 3 to 400% more than their previous policies would like your definition of an authoritarian regime.
 
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Have you been asleep since the 90s? Expecting to treat the Dems and MSM with dignity and honor in the hopes they reciprocte is a fools errand. The Dems have proven nothing is out of bounds and the Pubs have been forgiving and forgetting (or playing along) for decades. DJT and his admin ignoring slanted stories and calls for violence by Dem pols won't inspire honor among Dems and journos with and agenda and motivate them to act like adults. They understand what has worked for them in the past and that is attacking. DJT won because he plays politics like a dem and returned fire. I don't think he should use all of the Dem's tactics but the ball is now in his court and he's completely justified if he spikes it on their heads.

Next, stop with the dictator BS. O wouldn't appear on Fox for 2 years and took questions from them much less than other outlets. Joe didn't do an interview with anything other than lapdogs during his term and was even given cards with the names of journos he would acknowledge. O and Biden threatened journos, hacked journos and censored journos so I think we should understand which side is the threat to non partisan news coverage. We know Trump will talk to anyone so he's not censoring, he's simply taking away the honored seats from those that have demonstrated they have no honor. To my knowledge, Trump has never tried to censor news orgs or "banned" them from anything. Hell, he seems to enjoy fighting with them.
 
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I don’t think anyone should agree with this.

If you want to add in conservative “news“ sources, that’s fine, but to remove the only people that are going to be critical of the work the government does, has been proven throughout history to be a really bad idea.

Does anyone think any of those news organizations that are now in are going to be critical of Donald Trump, Pete, Hegseth, or anything regarding the administration? The purpose of the media is to report about what government is doing at the every day citizen doesn’t see.
I agree 100% with the move. CNN is not a new organization. It is a part of the vast left-wing conspiracy of the democrats. CNN hates this country and everything it is founded on. CNN needs to let someone else sit on the front row.
 
Page one of The Dictator’s Playbook.

Control the news to the masses.

It is working quite well for Trump’s buddies, Vlad and Kim Jun Un.
Come on man. Who was allowed in before. And the last time Trump was in office. It has been as far left leaning as it can be. I would rather it be a mixture. That is the way it should be from now own. But I totally understand why Trump would want this. It certainly has worked for democrats elected. And no one said a word. The msm earned what they get. They covered up a compromised president. They clipped an interview together to help one candidate look better. Etc. Anyone who can’t understand this has an agenda. They are either a hard core lefty or hate Trump. Period. This is just a common sense move. Why would Trump want someone in the print or tv media lying about him or undermining him at every turn?

I guess you didn’t care when Biden would threaten the msm when they reported the truth. Or anything negative.
 
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Have you been asleep since the 90s? Expecting to treat the Dems and MSM with dignity and honor in the hopes they reciprocte is a fools errand. The Dems have proven nothing is out of bounds and the Pubs have been forgiving and forgetting (or playing along) for decades. DJT and his admin ignoring slanted stories and calls for violence by Dem pols won't inspire honor among Dems and journos with and agenda and motivate them to act like adults. They understand what has worked for them in the past and that is attacking. DJT won because he plays politics like a dem and returned fire. I don't think he should use all of the Dem's tactics but the ball is now in his court and he's completely justified if he spikes it on their heads.

Next, stop with the dictator BS. O wouldn't appear on Fox for 2 years and took questions from them much less than other outlets. Joe didn't do an interview with anything other than lapdogs during his term and was even given cards with the names of journos he would acknowledge. O and Biden threatened journos, hacked journos and censored journos so I think we should understand which side is the threat to non partisan news coverage. We know Trump will talk to anyone so he's not censoring, he's simply taking away the honored seats from those that have demonstrated they have no honor. To my knowledge, Trump has never tried to censor news orgs or "banned" them from anything. Hell, he seems to enjoy fighting with them.
Spot on
 
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Critical is one thing. Flat out lying and cheerleading for political purposes terminates the right to call yourself a journalist, and thus rescinds your right to sit at the *Press* table.
But Fox News has never had anyone lie on air?

How much did they pay out again for spewing nonsense about a stolen 2020 election?

It’s a free country, but I would recommend being concerned with the truth, rather than “owning the other side”.
I believe conservative principles win out in a marketplace of ideas. JMO
 
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