CBS Sale and 60 Minutes going rogue is really interesting.......

[DawgWCK]

Here are the cliffs from listening to Bill Oriley and doing some reading

1. Trump and his team thought 60 minutes INTENTIONALLY tried to hurt him 2 weeks before the 2020 election, Leslie Stahl seemed to get some facts incorrect and didn't retract them. Trump has held this grudge.

2. Trump and his team were equally miffed in 2024 when 60 minutes seemed to do selective editing to help Harris out after she went thru one of her word salad answers that made her look idiotic until 60 minutes cleaned it up

3. Paramount who owns CBS and is very liberal wants to sell to SkyDance media which is considered much more moderate even Conservative

4. CBS is UNPROFITABLE and Paramount desperate wants to dump it but the FCC now reports to Trump

5. Trump has sued CBS over item # 2 for $ 20 million and Paramount wants to settle but their news team is going scorched earth to try to stop the sale - running anti Trump stories in most every 60 minute episode


I know it was discussed on here a few weeks ago but didn't realize SkyDance was considred conservative and the liberal 60 minutes folks had gone scorched earth to try to stop the sale. My quick response is if you can't call balls and stirikes with Biden (mental decline) and Harris (word salad) then why is it now journalitic integrity to run Trump hit pieces why your company is being purchased by another entity and the sale is in being jeopardized by your reporting.

For record, I don't see any real good actors in this entire episode - Paramount t, 60 minutes crew, Trump, FCC and / or CBS.

 

[TivoliDawg]

Here are the cliffs from listening to Bill Oriley and doing some reading

1. Trump and his team thought 60 minutes INTENTIONALLY tried to hurt him 2 weeks before the 2020 election, Leslie Stahl seemed to get some facts incorrect and didn't retract them. Trump has held this grudge.

2. Trump and his team were equally miffed in 2024 when 60 minutes seemed to do selective editing to help Harris out after she went thru one of her word salad answers that made her look idiotic until 60 minutes cleaned it up

3. Paramount who owns CBS and is very liberal wants to sell to SkyDance media which is considered much more moderate even Conservative

4. CBS is UNPROFITABLE and Paramount desperate wants to dump it but the FCC now reports to Trump

5. Trump has sued CBS over item # 2 for $ 20 million and Paramount wants to settle but their news team is going scorched earth to try to stop the sale - running anti Trump stories in most every 60 minute episode


I know it was discussed on here a few weeks ago but didn't realize SkyDance was considred conservative and the liberal 60 minutes folks had gone scorched earth to try to stop the sale. My quick response is if you can't call balls and stirikes with Biden (mental decline) and Harris (word salad) then why is it now journalitic integrity to run Trump hit pieces why your company is being purchased by another entity and the sale is in being jeopardized by your reporting.

For record, I don't see any real good actors in this entire episode - Paramount t, 60 minutes crew, Trump, FCC and / or CBS.

We do not have objective media anymore in this country. Being objective makes less money than pandering to a narrow slice who are much more loyal because they get to hear what they want to hear.

That loyalty equals advertising dollars.

 

[Georgia Knight]

I think the idea of "objective media" in a true sense is always a fiction. Ideology always shapes the interpretation of facts, and those making news decisions will always be influenced by their view of the world. Cronkite certainly had his own agenda, and it showed from time to time.

The larger problem is that the quality of the media has gone down the drain.

You can find far better ideologically-driven content on YouTube than you can on your favorite flavor of cable or broadcast news. This, coupled with declining ideological diversity within news rooms, gives you the slop you have today.

Now whether a smart and balanced newsroom would be able to create the market that would pay for television production is a valid question, and one that puts the mirror back on American consumers.

 

[55dawg]

Here are the cliffs from listening to Bill Oriley and doing some reading

1. Trump and his team thought 60 minutes INTENTIONALLY tried to hurt him 2 weeks before the 2020 election, Leslie Stahl seemed to get some facts incorrect and didn't retract them. Trump has held this grudge.

2. Trump and his team were equally miffed in 2024 when 60 minutes seemed to do selective editing to help Harris out after she went thru one of her word salad answers that made her look idiotic until 60 minutes cleaned it up

3. Paramount who owns CBS and is very liberal wants to sell to SkyDance media which is considered much more moderate even Conservative

4. CBS is UNPROFITABLE and Paramount desperate wants to dump it but the FCC now reports to Trump

5. Trump has sued CBS over item # 2 for $ 20 million and Paramount wants to settle but their news team is going scorched earth to try to stop the sale - running anti Trump stories in most every 60 minute episode


I know it was discussed on here a few weeks ago but didn't realize SkyDance was considred conservative and the liberal 60 minutes folks had gone scorched earth to try to stop the sale. My quick response is if you can't call balls and stirikes with Biden (mental decline) and Harris (word salad) then why is it now journalitic integrity to run Trump hit pieces why your company is being purchased by another entity and the sale is in being jeopardized by your reporting.

For record, I don't see any real good actors in this entire episode - Paramount t, 60 minutes crew, Trump, FCC and / or CBS.

I’ve really noticed that with 60 minutes. 60!minutes and evening news has a big impact on the older population. That generation still trust i MSM.

 

[litedawg1968]

I will love it when all these ideologues in the MSM are working at Arbys.

 

[LrgK9]

 

[TivoliDawg]

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Thr Biden’s and Trump are/were out to enrich themselves. I don’t like the trajectory of the presidency

 

[zingerdawg]

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It is funny. They are trying so hard to move on from Biden and this cover up. The media. The left. The news keeps getting worse on this. CNN and msnbc ran 1-6 info on a loop for four years. Now they don’t want to hear about Joe or whataboutism. It makes me laugh. They earned this. The information leaked from behind the scenes will only get worse for them in the future. It is a sinking ship no one wants to be linked to or go down with.

Of course Biden lied about hunter. And they covered up how the money got to them as well. That is why he pardoned the time frame in which he did. Hunter didn’t make any money over there. Until he did. My health is terrific so say doctors. Until it wasn’t. I don’t know anyone hunter does business with. Until he did. The corruption just keeps getting deeper.

 

[Georgia Knight]

Thr Biden’s and Trump are/were out to enrich themselves. I don’t like the trajectory of the presidency

How do you feel about the trajectory of Congress or the judicial branch?

 

[TivoliDawg]

How do you feel about the trajectory of Congress or the judicial branch?

Congress is nuts, particularly the House, but that’s a result of gerrymandering. Each party is carving up districts to cement control. When you do that, you get candidates in the extremes because they don’t face a centrist challenger, yet the voting base is centrist themselves.

The judiciary is tough. There are many types of courts. In general, Democrat judges try to legislate from the bench, and Republicans stay strict.

 

[Georgia Knight]

Congress is nuts, particularly the House, but that’s a result of gerrymandering. Each party is carving up districts to cement control. When you do that, you get candidates in the extremes because they don’t face a centrist challenger, yet the voting base is centrist themselves.

The judiciary is tough. There are many types of courts. In general, Democrat judges try to legislate from the bench, and Republicans stay strict.

Not trying to be argumentative, but what are some examples of good "centrist" members of Congress?

 

[TivoliDawg]

Not trying to be argumentative, but what are some examples of good "centrist" members of Congress?

I don’t view this as argumentative.

I’m blanking (of course), maybe Susan Collins? I could Google all 50 states’ senators and list them for you but I’m sure you could do that as well.

 

[Georgia Knight]

I don’t view this as argumentative.

I’m blanking (of course), maybe Susan Collins? I could Google all 50 states’ senators and list them for you but I’m sure you could do that as well.

My perspective then is that I don't see Collins as any better than the rest of Congress. I think in the ways that matter - policy - moderates are usually the worst.

Collins is less partisan, sure. She's more civil. But she's voted for almost every piece of legislation that has brought us to where we are - particularly when it comes to spending bills where she often crossed the isle for.

So if moderation is ultimately a form of general compliance on policy, with the occasional protest vote on personnel and a civil tone, it seems like a larger part of the problem.

 

[TivoliDawg]

My perspective then is that I don't see Collins as any better than the rest of Congress. I think in the ways that matter - policy - moderates are usually the worst.

Collins is less partisan, sure. She's more civil. But she's voted for almost every piece of legislation that has brought us to where we are - particularly when it comes to spending bills where she often crossed the isle for.

So if moderation is ultimately a form of general compliance on policy, with the occasional protest vote on personnel and a civil tone, it seems like a larger part of the problem.

You bring up an interesting point, but I don’t necessarily want to conflate two issues.

Both political parties, centrists, and people in the extreme left and extreme, right, have all voted for the same fiscal calamity We have now.

We need to raise revenue by about $1 trillion per year, cut spending by about $1 trillion per year, and spend all of that on paying down our debt with the highest interest debt going first (where applicable).

 

[Georgia Knight]

You bring up an interesting point, but I don’t necessarily want to conflate two issues.

Both political parties, centrists, and people in the extreme left and extreme, right, have all voted for the same fiscal calamity We have now.

We need to raise revenue by about $1 trillion per year, cut spending by about $1 trillion per year, and spend all of that on paying down our debt with the highest interest debt going first (where applicable).

I think it would be those that would be considered "extreme right" that have always been the biggest foils in various spending plans. Thomas Massie is probably the most "extreme" member of Congress in terms of ideology, for example.

To me, we'd be better off with more "extremes" in Congress, because they tend to reflect something resembling ideology which at least has a relative logic to it (for better or worse.) In my opinion, its the "pragmatists" that are the ones that tend to vote more in terms of special interest groups.

I think a point we can both agree on is that the incentive structure of modern Congress is not one that is designed for good outcomes. The House is far too small for our population, which makes primary challenges far more difficult and thus democratic accountability falls. The Senate is completely disconnected from its Constitutional roots as a body to represent state interest.

The result is a legislature that is best utilized either by show horses that run to TV cameras for attention, or pork barrel pigs that try to maximize their district bacon.

 

[LrgK9]

I’ve really noticed that with 60 minutes. 60!minutes and evening news has a big impact on the older population. That generation still trust i MSM.

Aww He’ll No!
60” are a bunch of pipe organs.

 

[Dillenger1914]

You bring up an interesting point, but I don’t necessarily want to conflate two issues.

Both political parties, centrists, and people in the extreme left and extreme, right, have all voted for the same fiscal calamity We have now.

We need to raise revenue by about $1 trillion per year, cut spending by about $1 trillion per year, and spend all of that on paying down our debt with the highest interest debt going first (where applicable).

President Obama offered "a dollar for a dollar". He offered to match dollar for dollar, cuts to spending vs. Increases to revenue (i.e. tax increase)... Congress said no.

 

[55dawg]

Here are the cliffs from listening to Bill Oriley and doing some reading

1. Trump and his team thought 60 minutes INTENTIONALLY tried to hurt him 2 weeks before the 2020 election, Leslie Stahl seemed to get some facts incorrect and didn't retract them. Trump has held this grudge.

2. Trump and his team were equally miffed in 2024 when 60 minutes seemed to do selective editing to help Harris out after she went thru one of her word salad answers that made her look idiotic until 60 minutes cleaned it up

3. Paramount who owns CBS and is very liberal wants to sell to SkyDance media which is considered much more moderate even Conservative

4. CBS is UNPROFITABLE and Paramount desperate wants to dump it but the FCC now reports to Trump

5. Trump has sued CBS over item # 2 for $ 20 million and Paramount wants to settle but their news team is going scorched earth to try to stop the sale - running anti Trump stories in most every 60 minute episode


I know it was discussed on here a few weeks ago but didn't realize SkyDance was considred conservative and the liberal 60 minutes folks had gone scorched earth to try to stop the sale. My quick response is if you can't call balls and stirikes with Biden (mental decline) and Harris (word salad) then why is it now journalitic integrity to run Trump hit pieces why your company is being purchased by another entity and the sale is in being jeopardized by your reporting.

For record, I don't see any real good actors in this entire episode - Paramount t, 60 minutes crew, Trump, FCC and / or CBS.

#1 was very obvious. FOL watches 60 minutes religiously. I caught it a few times visiting him. I told him it was obvious at the time.

 

[TivoliDawg]

President Obama offered "a dollar for a dollar". He offered to match dollar for dollar, cuts to spending vs. Increases to revenue (i.e. tax increase)... Congress said no.

I don’t recall that but it sounds like a great idea.

Certainly it wasn’t tried during Biden/ Harris.

 

[zingerdawg]

I don’t recall that but it sounds like a great idea.

Certainly it wasn’t tried during Biden/ Harris.

Saw a random podcast that put up bill Clinton’s policy stances. Compared to today he would have to be a republican more than likely. Pretty crazy how both sides have shifted so drastically

 

[Dillenger1914]

I don’t recall that but it sounds like a great idea.

Certainly it wasn’t tried during Biden/ Harris.

Yes sir. He did.

 

[Georgia Knight]

Saw a random podcast that put up bill Clinton’s policy stances. Compared to today he would have to be a republican more than likely. Pretty crazy how both sides have shifted so drastically

There were two Clinton's.

His first years he ran left. The party got smoked. And then he went right.

 

[atlanta cock#]

Thr Biden’s and Trump are/were out to enrich themselves. I don’t like the trajectory of the presidency

And yet Trump is worth less today than in 2015, but Clinton and Obama, who had balance sheets equal to mine before becoming POTUS, are now worth $10s and $100s of millions.

Maybe that narrative should be checked?

 

[TivoliDawg]

And yet Trump is worth less today than in 2015, but Clinton and Obama, who had balance sheets equal to mine before becoming POTUS, are now worth $10s and $100s of millions.

Maybe that narrative should be checked?

Trump is worth more now than ever. He has generated 80% of his net worth in the last four months due to his and Melania’s meme coin.

Again, the article I read in Forbes could have been wrong, but I trust the article.

 

[atlanta cock#]

Trump is worth more now than ever. He has generated 80% of his net worth in the last four months due to his and Melania’s meme coin.

Again, the article I read in Forbes could have been wrong, but I trust the article.

I don't think that's true, but he did just have a 4 year run in the private sector while defending a bunch of horseshit claims. But if it is true, doesn't Letitia have a problem with her valuation of Mar-A-Lago?

 

[TivoliDawg]

I don't think that's true, but he did just have a 4 year run in the private sector while defending a bunch of horseshit claims. But if it is true, doesn't Letitia have a problem with her valuation of Mar-A-Lago?

I’m not sure I follow your question; I’m not talking about LJ.

Trump has made most of his net worth by being POTUS and specifically these Middle East deals and meme coins.

He’s enriching himself off of the presidency. I’m okay with that because he is the least woke candidate, but I’d prefer our Presidents not view the job as a giant cash register.

 

[atlanta cock#]

I’m not sure I follow your question; I’m not talking about LJ.

Trump has made most of his net worth by being POTUS and specifically these Middle East deals and meme coins.

He’s enriching himself off of the presidency. I’m okay with that because he is the least woke candidate, but I’d prefer our President’s not view the job as a giant cash register.

He was a multi billionaire in 2015. He's not enriching himself by being POTUS. That would be Clinton, Obama and Biden.

Anyway, it's all speculation at this point. Believe what you want.

 

[celticdawg]

He was a multi billionaire in 2015. He's not enriching himself by being POTUS. That would be Clinton, Obama and Biden.

Anyway, it's all speculation at this point. Believe what you want.

You seem to be blind about a lot of things. How can you say "He's not enriching himself by being POTUS." Can't take anything you say as being serious.

 

[ugaboz]

You seem to be blind about a lot of things. How can you say "He's not enriching himself by being POTUS." Can't take anything you say as being serious.

You seem to be at odds with lots of people lol
Maybe take a look in the mirrior

 

[celticdawg]

You seem to be at odds with lots of people lol
Maybe take a look in the mirrior

Only with people who keep making false statements. That doesn't include you because you never say anything.

 

[DTwnDawg]

President Obama offered "a dollar for a dollar". He offered to match dollar for dollar, cuts to spending vs. Increases to revenue (i.e. tax increase)... Congress said no.

OBAMA? 🤣 The Great Divider