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  1. Cridawg

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    In your opinion, what should we do about/with China given what they have done regarding SARS-CoV2, theft of intellectual property, industrial espionage, and everything else.

    In my opinion, we did this to ourselves, corporate greed did this. I think that is pretty obvious, but with damaging tariffs, bringing manufacturing back here or more friendly countries (incentivize them with protection), severe sanctions, and every other option available except military (and position ourself even with that, we can reverse course as much as possible.

    Getting in bed with a repressive communist nation that has now changed course to a thievery nation can’t continue. They should now be in the “axis of evil” with Iran, Russia, NK. I don’t see how this can go back.

    What say you? We can’t be pansies on this.
     
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    Fat Man or Little Boy?
     
  3. Cridawg

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    Dang Dude, bigger country and lots of US industry there. Gotta move that out first.
     
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    Very simple Bush family and O'bama family enjoyed the relationship along with Biden.. 65
     
  5. Dirty Hairy Dawg

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    Tough question because we've allowed them to get their tentacles wrapped around about every aspect of American life. Iows, they could almost crush us simply by cutting off our supply chain. I'd suggest public hanging for the Pols that allowed us to get this far down the road of dependency and totally cutting ties with China but that's virtually impossible at this point.
     
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    Russia is our boogeyman. China is our friend,
    --Joe Biden 2020--
     
  7. sodawg94

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    Dont kid yourself. China is Trumps friend also. Where do you think the vast majority of steel and stone comes from? The quality may generally be shit, but its cheap as hell and gets the job done.
     
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    we won't be doing anything to China so long as we continue to push our other allies away. Full stop.
     
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    Dont China own much of our debt? Kind of like walking into a bank and making demands and you own them a large debt. Dont think they take you very seriously.
     
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    Started during Nixon. Before that we had high tariffs that kept foreign goods.
     
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    Love when Lefties try to school us about business.
     
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    And why pray tell has China become such a large producer of steel while the U.S. went from a major producer to a dependent country? Hint: It isn't because Trump regulated the U.S. producers to ruin.
     
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    While agree, almost totally, including the hanging part (hell, I’d open the floor), but we must just pull out. We put it there, we did it, we can undo it. The Corp’s just have to realize it’s killing our National Security to be in bed and intertwined with an oppressive regime. Get out of there, especially the pharma sh$t. That part has shocked me to the core. What country would allow a communist regime to make our life saving drugs, but then I did research. Many of those active ingredients can’t be made here because of environmentalist regs. Flabuster those regs and there green crap.

    I’m so sick of this crap, let’s all the gin toters to “Wolverines” and take over only the opposite way. Shit down the crat-regressives and retake our country that People like James Madison helped build.

    FYI, he was a small built, frail, unhealthy dude, but damn, what a man. He’d rise from the dead as well as a lot of those freedom fighters if God would let them.

    But, this is a test from God. Who are we?? Europe has failed. Asia was never in the equation and neither was the Arab world (sans Israel). This is where we define ourselves. No country has ever survived under the same constitution as long as God Bless the USA.

    Do we choose to let it die or choose to let it go forward as the great country we are. Personally, if DJT wins, and we take both houses (which I think we will), hell, let’s roll and take this crap back and as bozo said “elections have consequences”.

    Het our stuff back here then run China back to bikes then watch the revolt. It will happen in Iran. If Israel had confidence that the folks in the uprising would support them, I betcha they’d go blow that shat hole up.
     
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    Sanctions, we stop interest payments until they stop. And, actually, I’m collective, they own a large $ amount but a very small %. What are going to do?
     
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    First volley, blow the hell out of one of their man made islands out of the South China Sea. Don’t belong there, ain’t their territory, f’em. Keep our allies safe.
     
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    You really think the Trump family and now his administration are friendly with Chinese Communist government? The left wing libs want us to be a socialist third world country. Check out Soros! 65
     
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    Trump had absolutely zero to do w trade from 25 -50 years ago. He’s simply dealing w the sins Of former trade deals and the desire of the consumer for the cheapest. Hope we’ve learned that the best ain’t cheap and the cheap ain’t best.
     
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    I dont know where cheap quality keeps coming from. The biggest manufacturers there dwarf ours in size and with the latest in tooling and machinery. It isnt like they just throw 10k people at it, its way more advanced in robotics and machinery.
     
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    You miss the point, we’ve let a suppressive ultra Marxist regime do this. We need to and must reverse course. It will hurt. We will pay more. Screw it. We can’t be owned by evil demon people like that.
     
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    I agree 100%. China has intentionally screwed us and stolen intellectual property, and sabotaged our corporations to the extent it is not to be overlooked.
     
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    The Chinese have what I call “people for people” there are so many people the labor cost is incredibly low because people just want to work. They do in fact throw people at it and do not always rely on machinery. If that were the case American manufacturers would be able to compete. In terms of poor quality, if you are buying construction materials it is known in my business that stone from China is way cheaper, but the tolerances of size and more importantly thickness is way off making installation difficult. They don’t always have the best machinery and they absolutely rely on humans. It’s more flexible and cheaper.
     
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    China has the same 2 problems that North Korea has. First, they can’t feed their people. They cannot move their Army a great distance. Second, their people are not motivated because their entire existence is controlled. They are told what to do and when. That’s why their products suck.
     
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    You continue pressure. Tarrifs, sanctions, move what you can to more friendly nations India, Tawain, Vietnam, US, Mexico, Central America via new trade deals & incentives.

    You seek out & arrest the embedded agents they have in our academia/industry.

    You pressure allies to do the same.

    The very things we’ve been doing now for almost 4 years.

    You simply can’t turn a ship as massive as the global economy created over the last 40 years by politicians/corporations that have sold us out to a communist nation. It takes time & energy particularly when you face opposition at home from those beholden to them.
     
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    That was a great summary of where we stand on taking back our trade advantages and increase of productivity in our industries. If only the dems were able to love our nation enough to follow Trumps trade corrections in the last 3-3/4 years.
     
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    Great post and spot on
     
  26. Cridawg

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    The comments about hanging politicians was ‘tongue in cheek’, idiot. Of course, none of us would actually do that. Ever heard of somewhat joking around in an otherwise serious thread.
     
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    This started with the Clintons. He was in China's back pocket and compromised by his sexual imorallity. He pretty much opened the flood gate.
     

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