Eason to UGA ...have we really sat and thought this out...

[REAdawg]

JE still coming...why didn't he follow MR to UM?
Why would he want to come here with Shotty as OC after watching the offense?
Why wouldn't he consider Col St with MB since that was the early commit to UGA when MB was here?
Why would he still consider coming here even though our OC/OL coaches are in place, but there is nothing shown yet of what they are actually going to do, it's only on paper at this point?

Don't get me wrong, glad he's coming...if there was ever an opportunity to walk in and start, it's here...but I hope they make the kid earn it...I don't care how good the kid is in HS, it's HS. The SEC is going to wake him up...Zeier, Stafford, etc, had to work their way in...

Hopefully, KS is trying to recruit another QB...what HS QB wants to come the same yr JE comes? So as it is today and in the fall, GL, BR, and JE will be the depth chart and that ain't gonna work...Hockman was the 2017 guy until he de-committed, then go after Lawrence at CVille for 2018...it was building where each star QB would RS and sit the RSFR yr while the star played out the JR yr and left...then each next star would rotate in their RSSo yr..but now....that position out of all the positions has nothing in it...

We certainly missed over the last few yrs filling that spot while AM ran the show..

 

[DawgHammarskjold]

JE still coming...why didn't he follow MR to UM?
Why would he want to come here with Shotty as OC after watching the offense?
Why wouldn't he consider Col St with MB since that was the early commit to UGA when MB was here?
Why would he still consider coming here even though our OC/OL coaches are in place, but there is nothing shown yet of what they are actually going to do, it's only on paper at this point?

Don't get me wrong, glad he's coming...if there was ever an opportunity to walk in and start, it's here...but I hope they make the kid earn it...I don't care how good the kid is in HS, it's HS. The SEC is going to wake him up...Zeier, Stafford, etc, had to work their way in...

Hopefully, KS is trying to recruit another QB...what HS QB wants to come the same yr JE comes? So as it is today and in the fall, GL, BR, and JE will be the depth chart and that ain't gonna work...Hockman was the 2017 guy until he de-committed, then go after Lawrence at CVille for 2018...it was building where each star QB would RS and sit the RSFR yr while the star played out the JR yr and left...then each next star would rotate in their RSSo yr..but now....that position out of all the positions has nothing in it...

We certainly missed over the last few yrs filling that spot while AM ran the show..

Eason wants the privilege of playing under McGarity, Mr. Dynamic.

 

[dieharddawg62]

The babes at UGA.

 

[jkwdawgs98]

The babes at UGA.

Reading this comment next to your winking dog avatar made me laugh!

 

[wayx]

JE still coming...why didn't he follow MR to UM?
Why would he want to come here with Shotty as OC after watching the offense?
Why wouldn't he consider Col St with MB since that was the early commit to UGA when MB was here?
Why would he still consider coming here even though our OC/OL coaches are in place, but there is nothing shown yet of what they are actually going to do, it's only on paper at this point?

Don't get me wrong, glad he's coming...if there was ever an opportunity to walk in and start, it's here...but I hope they make the kid earn it...I don't care how good the kid is in HS, it's HS. The SEC is going to wake him up...Zeier, Stafford, etc, had to work their way in...

Hopefully, KS is trying to recruit another QB...what HS QB wants to come the same yr JE comes? So as it is today and in the fall, GL, BR, and JE will be the depth chart and that ain't gonna work...Hockman was the 2017 guy until he de-committed, then go after Lawrence at CVille for 2018...it was building where each star QB would RS and sit the RSFR yr while the star played out the JR yr and left...then each next star would rotate in their RSSo yr..but now....that position out of all the positions has nothing in it...

We certainly missed over the last few yrs filling that spot while AM ran the show..

 

[dieharddawg62]

It's actually a very good question.

 

[wayx]

He TOLD YOU why he's coming to Georgia despite all the changes since he first committed about 18 months ago.

He fell in love with the University of Georgia back then and still loves this school today. Plus, he's formed a strong bond
with several of our other recruits.

And your comment that although our OC/OL coaches are in place that there is nothing to show what they will do.
Really?....what about their strong resumes showing EXACTLY what they have done over a long number of years?

 

[HeulenHund2]

The Guy who does the podcast for The AJC stated Jacob should be put 1st on the depth chart the day He enrolls...wrong.
As the OP stated. He needs to earn it. It might well turn out He won't be ready next season, if not, start whoever the most prepared and capable QB on roster turns out to be.

 

[dawg-n-pikeco]

The Guy who does the podcast for The AJC stated Jacob should be put 1st on the depth chart the day He enrolls...wrong.
As the OP stated. He needs to earn it. It might well turn out He won't be ready next season, if not, start whoever the most prepared and capable QB on roster turns out to be.

JE is starting from day one...they will compete in practice...but his skill set is so much stronger than anybody else of the roster. And from all indications he is very bright and a film junkie...he will pick up the offense pretty quickly. And remember he is an early enroll guy so he will go through all of spring practice as well.

 

[HeulenHund2]

JE is starting from day one...they will compete in practice...but his skill set is so much stronger than anybody else of the roster. And from all indications he is very bright and a film junkie...he will pick up the offense pretty quickly. And remember he is an early enroll guy so he will go through all of spring practice as well.

We have no real idea how quickly Jacob will advance.
I won't be surprised if He does start right away, I won't be surprised if He doesn't either.
I don't think Our coaches will risk stunting His development by throwing Him to the wolves before He's ready.

 

[dawg-n-pikeco]

We have no real idea how quickly Jacob will advance.
I won't be surprised if He does start right away, I won't be surprised if He doesn't either.
I don't think Our coaches will risk stunting His development by throwing Him to the wolves before He's ready.

Nobody commits for a year and a half...moves 5 hours by plane to sit the bench...JE starts day one...done deal.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Nobody commits for a year and a half...moves 5 hours by plane to sit the bench...JE starts day one...done deal.

Nope, if He was led to believe that, somebody didn't serve His interest well.
We really don't know that much about Jacob, We might think We do and We might guess right, but We don't know for sure till He's been away from home awhile. While He clearly thinks the world of His Dad and is very respectful towards Him, He is a typical teen in His manner with most people.

 

[dawg-n-pikeco]

he will only be here three years...no time to waste...hopefully this staff won't be as stupid with him as the last one was with Knowson...freaking redshirt... still ticks me off

 

[HeulenHund2]

he will only be here three years...no time to waste...hopefully this staff won't be as stupid with him as the last one was with Knowson...freaking redshirt... still ticks me off

Knowshon's case was very different. He was obviously ready, he was deemed so by everybody who saw Him on the scout team.
RB is the single easiest position to prepare and QB is the single hardest to prepare.
If Jacob is ready He's ready, if not, let Him take the needed time without the pressure of starting immediately.
One thing Saban doesn't do is start His best recruits right away, He has them prepared before putting them on the field.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

Nope, if He was led to believe that, somebody didn't serve His interest well.
We really don't know that much about Jacob, We might think We do and We might guess right, but We don't know for sure till He's been away from home awhile. While He clearly thinks the world of His Dad and is very respectful towards Him, He is a typical teen in His manner with most people.

I would guess he does start and would probably be #1 on depth day one. New system, new coaches, all starting from square 1 to some degree...so you go by talent and play making ability. Now if he doesn't learn the book...then that could change.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I would guess he does start and would probably be #1 on depth day one. New system, new coaches, all starting from square 1 to some degree...so you go by talent and play making ability. Now if he doesn't learn the book...then that could change.

I'll be shocked if He's #1 on the first depth chart in spring. That would serve absolutely no purpose and could only make it tougher to keep Jacob's head on straight.
Every QB on roster should be fighting for that carrot for some time, at least through the spring.
Murray is the only QB I trusted to handle the kind of pressure and expectations being anointed #1 early puts on a player.
I'm sure Jacob has the drive and character but He clearly doesn't have Aaron's kind of singular focus. Nothing was going to divert AM's attention or make his head swell too big, that was clear right away.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

I'll be shocked if He's #1 on the first depth chart in spring. That would serve absolutely no purpose and could only make it tougher to keep Jacob's head on straight.
Every QB on roster should be fighting for that carrot for some time, at least through the spring.
Murray is the only QB I trusted to handle the kind of pressure and expectations being anointed #1 early puts on a player.
I'm sure Jacob has the drive and character but He clearly doesn't have Aaron's kind of singular focus. Nothing was going to divert AM's attention or make his head swell too big, that was clear right away.

How do you know he doesn't have that focus. Focus is one of the main attributes I have seen him given props for. Plus, based on all the newness...he may be deserving of #1 come first depth chart. The first one will go one of two ways. Kirby will name the starter based on talent and play making, or he will base it on knowledge of playbook. I don't see any reason to just name Lamber or Ramsey 1 unless they earn it. Ramsey, I believe, will be out due to the attitude we here about...Lambert...maybe. But with all the new terminology and such, they are all starting from square one on playbook.

 

[HeulenHund2]

How do you know he doesn't have that focus. Focus is one of the main attributes I have seen him given props for. Plus, based on all the newness...he may be deserving of #1 come first depth chart. The first one will go one of two ways. Kirby will name the starter based on talent and play making, or he will base it on knowledge of playbook. I don't see any reason to just name Lamber or Ramsey 1 unless they earn it. Ramsey, I believe, will be out due to the attitude we here about...Lambert...maybe. But with all the new terminology and such, they are all starting from square one on playbook.

Jacob does not have the single minded focus Murray did, few have.
As for listing Him 1st on a depth chart early in spring, or likely at any point in spring practice, what purpose would it serve ? There is plenty of potential down side, with no real upside, it won't happen.
Even if Richt were still HC it wouldn't have happened. Kirby comes from a system where freshmen rarely start, so I'd bet the farm this kid isn't going to be anointed anything any time soon.

 

[dieharddawg62]

JE is starting from day one...they will compete in practice...but his skill set is so much stronger than anybody else of the roster. And from all indications he is very bright and a film junkie...he will pick up the offense pretty quickly. And remember he is an early enroll guy so he will go through all of spring practice as well.

Have we been watching the same highlights? I think your expectations might be a little over the top.

 

[dieharddawg62]

You guys thinking Eason is going to come into the SEC and instantly light it up are out of your minds.

 

[Dawgman94]

The babes at UGA.

The UGA puppey kinnel club we mean bad we pee in house tear up your house and chew up the couch because we are mean.

 

[Dawgman94]

You guys thinking Eason is going to come into the SEC and instantly light it up are out of your minds.

I'm not thinking that he might have a Kirby deffensse to relie on.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

You guys thinking Eason is going to come into the SEC and instantly light it up are out of your minds.

I don't think he will light it up, but I do think he will start, extremely early if not game 1 unless something like a transfer (again) or another qb that is more ready is signed.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

Jacob does not have the single minded focus Murray did, few have.
As for listing Him 1st on a depth chart early in spring, or likely at any point in spring practice, what purpose would it serve ? There is plenty of potential down side, with no real upside, it won't happen.
Even if Richt were still HC it wouldn't have happened. Kirby comes from a system where freshmen rarely start, so I'd bet the farm this kid isn't going to be anointed anything any time soon.

Please, provide examples, neither of us know Jacob, so not sure what you can base that on. Hopefully he can do better than Murray did his first 2.5 years.

 

[im4thedawgs]

He TOLD YOU why he's coming to Georgia despite all the changes since he first committed about 18 months ago.

He fell in love with the University of Georgia back then and still loves this school today. Plus, he's formed a strong bond
with several of our other recruits.

And your comment that although our OC/OL coaches are in place that there is nothing to show what they will do.
Really?....what about their strong resumes showing EXACTLY what they have done over a long number of years?

Think Eason is coming despite our new OC's resume. Some good but lot's of "so so" stops along the way.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Please, provide examples, neither of us know Jacob, so not sure what you can base that on. Hopefully he can do better than Murray did his first 2.5 years.

Observation, I never worried about Murray's focus for a minute. Eason seems like a more typical teen ager.
Murray had 59 tds 22 ints, 6200 yards and 60.2% completions over his first 2 years as a starter. No other UGA QB has ever had more than 25 td passes in ANY season, let alone average 29.5 in their 2 least productive seasons. You must have huge expectations, I'll be thrilled if Eason can match those numbers. Murray spoiled some people.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

Observation, I never worried about Murray's focus for a minute. Eason seems like a more typical teen ager.
Murray had 59 tds 22 ints, 6200 yards and 60.2% completions over his first 2 years as a starter. No other UGA QB has ever had more than 25 td passes in ANY season, let alone average 29.5 in their 2 least productive seasons. You must have huge expectations, I'll be thrilled if Eason can match those numbers. Murray spoiled some people.

You never worried about Murray's focus? Really? Not being insulting here, but his frosh and soph years...heck, first half of his junior year were average to below average. UF junior year seemed to be the turning point, specifically the 2nd half, where he had to get it done even though we had a lead, couldn't run on them and he needed to make a play...after that..clutch.

 

[dieharddawg62]

Observation, I never worried about Murray's focus for a minute. Eason seems like a more typical teen ager.
Murray had 59 tds 22 ints, 6200 yards and 60.2% completions over his first 2 years as a starter. No other UGA QB has ever had more than 25 td passes in ANY season, let alone average 29.5 in their 2 least productive seasons. You must have huge expectations, I'll be thrilled if Eason can match those numbers. Murray spoiled some people.

No SEC championships, once again blown up stats against cupcake opponents. Stats don't matter, only champioships matter. Doesn't mean squat if you can't turn it up when it matters. His record against end of season ranked opponents was like Richt, not very good.

 

[HeulenHund2]

No SEC championships, once again blown up stats against cupcake opponents. Stats don't matter, only champioships matter. Doesn't mean squat if you can't turn it up when it matters. His record against end of season ranked opponents was like Richt, not very good.

BS, Murray didn't play or coach defense, that was where 90% or our problems were then. Murray had good stats..period. Not just good, by far the best in Our program's history. Not to rag Stafford, but any one of Murray's 4 seasons was superior to Staff's best season.
If people expect Eason to outperform Murray's freshman and sophomore seasons, they're putting ridiculous expectations on the kid.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

BS, Murray didn't play or coach defense, that was where 90% or our problems were then. Murray had good stats..period. Not just good, by far the best in Our program's history. Not to rag Stafford, but any one of Murray's 4 seasons was superior to Staff's best season.
If people expect Eason to outperform Murray's freshman and sophomore seasons, they're putting ridiculous expectations on the kid.

I hope he does better, because yes, Murray's frosh year he racked up yards and TD's against cupcakes sans 1...he did well against Auburn in the first half. That year our offense scored better than this year, but had similar struggles, in 3 of our losses we scored 6, 12 and 6 (SC, MSU, AND UCF) He looked good against the weak, but had real struggles against teams that were good. 6-7 year to boot.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I hope he does better, because yes, Murray's frosh year he racked up yards and TD's against cupcakes sans 1...he did well against Auburn in the first half. That year our offense scored better than this year, but had similar struggles, in 3 of our losses we scored 6, 12 and 6 (SC, MSU, AND UCF) He looked good against the weak, but had real struggles against teams that were good. 6-7 year to boot.

I was prepared for this one..
Against SEC teams Murray's freshman season plus Col ( who beat us, but AM had 3 tds 1 int) and GT here you go..
In those 8 games he averaged 270.25 yards per game and he threw 16 tds to only 5 ints, 3 of those 5 ints came in The UF game where our OL was crushed. He had 3 tds 0 ints against both Auburn and GT, He had 3 tds against UF along with 313 yards while running for his life. In the other 7 big games other than the UF game he only threw 2 ints combined, that's 13 tds and 2 ints.
I don't know why people want to blame the best QB We've ever had for what were mostly defensive and STs problems.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

I was prepared for this one..
Against SEC teams Murray's freshman season plus Col ( who beat us, but AM had 3 tds 1 int) and GT here you go..
In those 8 games he averaged 270.25 yards per game and he threw 16 tds to only 5 ints, 3 of those 5 ints came in The UF game where our OL was crushed. He had 3 tds 0 ints against both Auburn and GT, He had 3 tds against UF along with 313 yards while running for his life. In the other 7 big games other than the UF game he only threw 2 ints combined, that's 13 tds and 2 ints.
I don't know why people want to blame the best QB We've ever had for what were mostly defensive and STs problems.

No one is blaming him, but he wasn't great...Against Arky, 1 TD and 1 INT, Against SC...no TD's, against UCF, no TD's. He showed signs, but he also showed a proclivity to turn the ball over at inopportune times. That continued until his junior year, UF game, where he matured into the guy that was not only a stat hound, but a clutch performer. Previous to that, he won nothing, lost to ranked opponents and SEC teams that finished above 500 and the like. After UF, he showed how clutch he could be. Now, I don't know if that was him, Bobo or CMR, but that game was very important, without that, even with the stats, I don't think he gets drafted at all.

 

[HeulenHund2]

No one is blaming him, but he wasn't great...Against Arky, 1 TD and 1 INT, Against SC...no TD's, against UCF, no TD's. He showed signs, but he also showed a proclivity to turn the ball over at inopportune times. That continued until his junior year, UF game, where he matured into the guy that was not only a stat hound, but a clutch performer. Previous to that, he won nothing, lost to ranked opponents and SEC teams that finished above 500 and the like. After UF, he showed how clutch he could be. Now, I don't know if that was him, Bobo or CMR, but that game was very important, without that, even with the stats, I don't think he gets drafted at all.

In those games where he didn't produce a lot of offense he rarely turned the ball over. There was the exception of the SC game inI believe his jr season where he was very bad in the second half.
By the way, 2 of the games you sited were the 1st and 2nd games of his college career, not exactly a fair thing to point out IMO. I'm not sure about the UCF game, but he threw a total of 1 int in those first 2 games.

The important point is it's not true that he feasted on bad teams and was bad against good teams, I've clearly shown that wasn't the case. He threw 2 ints against UCF by the way. He was also sacked 3 times and constantly harassed, but he still had most of our offense. He threw for 198 yards after deducting for sacks. The team rushed for just 88 yards at 2.9 YPC.

Also one game didn't get him drafted..and he damn sure was a great college QB. His issue was his size. He is still the backup for KC by the way. I think His salary is around 2 million a year.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

In those games where he didn't produce a lot of offense he rarely turned the ball over. There was the exception of the SC game inI believe his jr season where he was very bad in the second half.
By the way, 2 of the games you sited were the 1st and 2nd games of his college career, not exactly a fair thing to point out IMO. I'm not sure about the UCF game, but he threw a total of 1 int in those first 2 games.

He wasn't horrible in that game against SC, just the turnovers, especially the last one....where we had a chance to come down and match SC...only to fumble deep in our own territory. That said, he grew up in a big way that year.
Actually it was the 2nd and the third, he had ULM or ULL first game.
You aren't sure about the UCF game? How long have you been a UGA fan? Liberty Bowl....CMR elected for a field goal early on instead of going on 4th and inches....we didn't score but one more FG. We lost to UCF 10-6.....finished below .500. CMR was on hot seat big time with a lot of people after that year, specifically the UCF game.

 

[HeulenHund2]

He wasn't horrible in that game against SC, just the turnovers, especially the last one....where we had a chance to come down and match SC...only to fumble deep in our own territory. That said, he grew up in a big way that year.
Actually it was the 2nd and the third, he had ULM or ULL first game.
You aren't sure about the UCF game? How long have you been a UGA fan? Liberty Bowl....CMR elected for a field goal early on instead of going on 4th and inches....we didn't score but one more FG. We lost to UCF 10-6.....finished below .500. CMR was on hot seat big time with a lot of people after that year, specifically the UCF game.

None of the problems in 2010 were Murray's fault.
The guy owns every SEC passing record and he's an NFL QB, good for him, he's earned it.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

None of the problems in 2010 were Murray's fault.
The guy owns every SEC passing record and he's an NFL QB, good for him, he's earned it.

Without that UF game, and the clutch confidence that followed, he would have been nothing more than a stat hound. QB's get too much credit and too much blame, but he would have been known as nothing more than a stat hound had he not had some of the games he had the 2nd half of his junior and whole senior season.

 

[HeulenHund2]

He wasn't horrible in that game against SC, just the turnovers, especially the last one....where we had a chance to come down and match SC...only to fumble deep in our own territory. That said, he grew up in a big way that year.
Actually it was the 2nd and the third, he had ULM or ULL first game.
You aren't sure about the UCF game? How long have you been a UGA fan? Liberty Bowl....CMR elected for a field goal early on instead of going on 4th and inches....we didn't score but one more FG. We lost to UCF 10-6.....finished below .500. CMR was on hot seat big time with a lot of people after that year, specifically the UCF game.

I meant I wasn't sure how many picks Aaron threw against UFC, which should have been clear by the context. I went back and checked though, he threw 2.
You say you don't want to be negative about the guy, yet you make every effort to be.

 

[AubreyTXDawg]

I meant I wasn't sure how many picks Aaron threw against UFC, which should have been clear by the context. I went back and checked though, he threw 2.
You say you don't want to be negative about the guy, yet you make every effort to be.

No, i don't, i'm being realistic. He was a statistically quite good, but not in big games or against SEC teams that finished with winning records...except for his last 1.5 years. Not surprising given that CMR only beat 5 SEC teams that finished season above 500 since 2008.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Without that UF game, and the clutch confidence that followed, he would have been nothing more than a stat hound. QB's get too much credit and too much blame, but he would have been known as nothing more than a stat hound had he not had some of the games he had the 2nd half of his junior and whole senior season.

I proved to you already he was far from a stat hound his fr and soph seasons 16 tds 5 ints in our 8 biggest regular season games.
He was a bit better overall his final 2 seasons though. he had 62 tds 19ints, 6968 yards and those are the 2 best rated QB seasons in UGA history.

 

[HeulenHund2]

No, i don't, i'm being realistic. He was a statistically quite good, but not in big games or against SEC teams that finished with winning records...except for his last 1.5 years. Not surprising given that CMR only beat 5 SEC teams that finished season above 500 since 2008.

I've already proved you wrong, but carry on.