Fulton County double-scanned ballots and got rid of evidence. Nothing to see here
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SO............what's our GOVERNOR going to do about it?
Exactly what you’d think. Nothing.
DeSantis needs to be governor of Georgia next. Clean this place up.
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You guys will believe anything.
Ballot images weren't required to be retained in the 2020 election, the law was changed after that election.
Fulton County has the hard ballots which have been audited and re-counted several times.
Janice Johnston of the GA Board has been making unfounded claims about Fulton County with no evidence for years, that is why she was appointed to the board by the Pub Legislators.
Both Ms. Johnston and this Michelle lady knew Fulton was not required to keep the images, just the hard copies, but they post this crap anyway to get you MAGA guys all excited.
From the Gateway Pundit to this crazy bitch, you will believe anything if it fits Trump's narrative
Ballot images weren't required to be retained in the 2020 election, the law was changed after that election.
Fulton County has the hard ballots which have been audited and re-counted several times.
Janice Johnston of the GA Board has been making unfounded claims about Fulton County with no evidence for years, that is why she was appointed to the board by the Pub Legislators.
Both Ms. Johnston and this Michelle lady knew Fulton was not required to keep the images, just the hard copies, but they post this crap anyway to get you MAGA guys all excited.
From the Gateway Pundit to this crazy bitch, you will believe anything if it fits Trump's narrative
Post spreads misleading claim about 'missing' ballot images in Fulton County | Fact check
It's inaccurate to describe ballot images as "missing" since they weren't required to be kept under state law at the time.
www.usatoday.com
Yeah. But dens margin of victory was so large that couldn’t have swayed results. Right ?
Did you forget about the court ordered preservation of records in the ongoing case Curling v. Raffensperger?You guys will believe anything.
Ballot images weren't required to be retained in the 2020 election, the law was changed after that election.
Fulton County has the hard ballots which have been audited and re-counted several times.
Janice Johnston of the GA Board has been making unfounded claims about Fulton County with no evidence for years, that is why she was appointed to the board by the Pub Legislators.
Both Ms. Johnston and this Michelle lady knew Fulton was not required to keep the images, just the hard copies, but they post this crap anyway to get you MAGA guys all excited.
From the Gateway Pundit to this crazy bitch, you will believe anything if it fits Trump's narrative
Post spreads misleading claim about 'missing' ballot images in Fulton County | Fact check
It's inaccurate to describe ballot images as "missing" since they weren't required to be kept under state law at the time.www.usatoday.com
Ballots have been allegedly recounted, but Fulton County never got the same answer twice. The margin of discrepancy in each count is greater than the total margin of votes for the state.
As for the governor's office, he received a detailed list of irregularities in Fulton County for the 2020 election (Kevin Moncla and David Cross, Official Complaint, March 28, 2022). His own staff confirmed each item in the complaint and forwarded to the State Board of Elections for further action. Incredibly, the complainants Moncla and Cross were not allowed to address the state board during the hearing.
• None of the 315,000 votes cast during early voting in Fulton County were witnessed to and signed by the poll manager and two poll workers, as required by state election rules. The closing tapes for these votes are all unsigned, showed more tabulated votes than the tabulators had recorded as scanning in their protective counters, and recorded improbably low percentages for President Trump. For example, President Trump received only 0.9 percent, 2.4 percent, 3.7 percent from some of the tabulators, as if he was a third party candidate, or in a third world country. The anomalies indicate ballots were not scanned on the tabulators that printed the closing tapes, making the closing tapes fraudulent. This prevented the reconciliation of how many votes were cast on each machine.
• Fulton County used a separate set of scanners at the central counting facility to print out poll tapes from the memory cards used in polling locations. This produced fraudulent tapes with a different serial number and protective counter number than the actual tapes. The unapproved protocols masked the identity of the original ballot scanner, and circumvented the security feature of the protective counter. This is analogous to replacing a cars odometer with that of another car, and the same applies to the serial number.
• The ballot images of these votes, along with the rest of in-person ballots cast on Election Day, were destroyed.
• The vote in Georgia was counted three times: the original machine count, a statewide hand recount, and a second machine count. Each time the state, and Fulton County, reported three different results.
• Fulton County did not count the same ballots during the original count and the machine recount. There are 19,541 distinct ballots that appear in one machine count but not the other.
• The second machine count was over 17,000 votes short. Fulton County was instructed to reconcile the results by the Secretary of State, and recertified its results without divulging the extent of the vote deficiency to members of the Fulton County Board of Registrations and Elections.
• “Thousands of votes” were added to the Election results via the second machine count. This includes 20,977 unsubstantiated votes of unknown origin. The results were missing 17,852 ballot images, and included 3,125 duplicate ballot images that were counted twice.
• At least 2,871 ballots were counted two or three times in the second machine count, totaling 6,118 questionable votes.
• 88% of Fulton County’s precincts reported a different total number of votes between the first and second machine count.
• The only electronic votes that survived from the first count were the mail-in ballots, since they were tabulated on the high speed scanner their ballot images were automatically uploaded to the election server.
• 90% of these approximately 148,000 absentee ballots cast in Fulton County cannot be authenticated. Ballot images for 132,284 mail-in votes have no .SHA file, which is created automatically when a ballot is scanned and used to authenticate the digital image of the vote, lacking evidence they were scanned and tabulated properly, or even cast by a real voter.
• Fulton County does not know “how many voters cast votes” and its “lack of basic accounting controls make it impossible to determine who really won” in 2020, according to Philip Stark, a University of California, Berkeley professor who invented risk-limiting audits used in elections. Stark noted, “The electronic records of the election are not intact” in his testimony in Curling v. Raffensperger. A total of 104,994 ballot image files of these mail-in ballots from the original count contained identical modified time stamps, suggesting electronic manipulation.
• As previously noted, 376,863 ballot images are missing from the first machine count, which includes all in-person votes in Fulton County.
• Tabulators used in Fulton County during early voting had their seals broken, and memory cards were reprogrammed and inserted into different scanners to count absentee ballots, in violation of election rules. This made it impossible to reconcile the true number of votes tabulated on the machines from the start of the Election to the end of counting.
Speaking of Curling V. Raffensperger, please note the reply (from "@lawyerforlaws") below:
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You guys only believe left wing lies and propaganda.You guys will believe anything.
Ballot images weren't required to be retained in the 2020 election, the law was changed after that election.
Fulton County has the hard ballots which have been audited and re-counted several times.
Janice Johnston of the GA Board has been making unfounded claims about Fulton County with no evidence for years, that is why she was appointed to the board by the Pub Legislators.
Both Ms. Johnston and this Michelle lady knew Fulton was not required to keep the images, just the hard copies, but they post this crap anyway to get you MAGA guys all excited.
From the Gateway Pundit to this crazy bitch, you will believe anything if it fits Trump's narrative
Post spreads misleading claim about 'missing' ballot images in Fulton County | Fact check
It's inaccurate to describe ballot images as "missing" since they weren't required to be kept under state law at the time.www.usatoday.com
But his taxes!
He's literally Hitler.
The Supreme Court just gave him the ability to take out political rivals (but he's not POTUS, is he?).
Project 2025 is going to lead to mass GOP takeover!
There is a reason why there is nothing from the media and that is nothing there to report. Like most people of your ilk are, you believe the lie. You did not see the act nor do you know anyone that saw it. Maybe you dreamed act and are one of those individuals that think their dreams are visions.
I guess you believe everything Demorats say.You guys will believe anything.
Ballot images weren't required to be retained in the 2020 election, the law was changed after that election.
Fulton County has the hard ballots which have been audited and re-counted several times.
Janice Johnston of the GA Board has been making unfounded claims about Fulton County with no evidence for years, that is why she was appointed to the board by the Pub Legislators.
Both Ms. Johnston and this Michelle lady knew Fulton was not required to keep the images, just the hard copies, but they post this crap anyway to get you MAGA guys all excited.
From the Gateway Pundit to this crazy bitch, you will believe anything if it fits Trump's narrative
Post spreads misleading claim about 'missing' ballot images in Fulton County | Fact check
It's inaccurate to describe ballot images as "missing" since they weren't required to be kept under state law at the time.www.usatoday.com
@dawgfood0612 just curious your response to @Zonadog post above. Would be interested to hear your thoughts.
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I have no idea where he got his points mentioned in his post. (Gateway Pundit, Ms. Johnston on the board).
One point is interesting, it says Fulton County and the state of Georgia each counted the ballots three times, and never got the same results. There are millions of ballots here. How far were they off, one or one million, the post conveniently doesn’t say.
I know that ballots have been recounted in this election more than any other, and that courts across the country, and Trump’s own AG said the election was not stolen. One narcissistic liar won’t admit he lost, and it seems like you guys believe every word he says.
I watched the Twitter video, didn’t see any evidence, saw a bunch of boxes.
Can’t wait to see the irrefutable report next week, if I recall, Trump has promised a bunch of these over the past three years, and never delivered one. I’m sure this one will hit it out of the park.
For the press conference with the irrefutable evidence, maybe they can bring Rudy and Melissa back.
Probably be good if Rudy laid off the chili before this one though.
Probably be good if Rudy laid off the chili before this one though.
And another narcissistic liar won’t admit she lost the Georgia governor’s race. The difference is she really did lose.
Can you explain why Democrats don’t won’t voter ID?
If we really want to make our elections safe ban the machines and mail in ballots. It won’t completely stop the cheating but it will reduce it significantly.
No reason whatsoever that the votes can't be totaled by 2300 hours on election Day.
Florida has been doing it since De Santis took office.
Anything going on after 2300 hours behind closed doors is suspect.
Florida has been doing it since De Santis took office.
Anything going on after 2300 hours behind closed doors is suspect.
If you read it, you would know.
Fulton County never got the same results twice. Interesting that they did not disclose that in each case, the difference was more than the margin for the whole state, but they certified anyway. If you don't want to take the word of the governor's office, you can look up the consent order between Fulton County and the State Elections Board. In it, you will find some documentation of errors by Fulton County and violations of state law.
The order cites results of a "risk limiting audit" directed by the state and performed by the county. Philip Stark, a professor of statistics at the University of California, Berkeley, who developed the risk limiting audit procedure used in Georgia, formally declared in Curling v. Raffensperger there were 17,752 ballot images missing in Fulton County. His declaration eviscerated Raffensperger’s hand count audit, which Stark called "security theater.”
Stark found the numbers of the counts differed so substantially at the precinct level - specifically President Trump’s votes from Election Day were undercounted by the machines twice - it left voters with no confidence their votes were "counted at all, much less counted as cast.” Georgia had no reconciliation process, no definite ballot manifest, no physical inventory of the paper ballots. The audit, then, was reduced to the voting system "checking itself,” which is not close to the process developed by Stark.
No, the ballots have not been recounted in this election more than any other. Not even close. It doesn't matter how many times you count if you aren't getting to the right answer. You need to chase down your errors, quantify and document.
Trump's attorney general, Bill Barr, made a statement before results were finalized in some states and based on zero review of election materials by the DOJ. His statement was carefully worded not to say what you are claiming. His exact words on December 1, 2020: "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election." If you haven't really looked, then of course you would not have seen. Further, you don't need fraud, per se, to reject the results of an election - only significant errors such as those in Fulton County.
I mention the date of Barr's statement because 5 states had only finalized their results the day before (11/30) and 2 more on December 1. Another 13 states did not certify results until after the first. Fulton County was still doing a machine recount and had not yet submitted their "final" results.
I brought confirmed facts and court documented expert testimony. I've got a lot more.
The height of narcissism is for an uninformed person to arrogantly dismiss actual investigative work because it doesn't fit his views, and to think that matters.
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@Zonadog have you reviewed or read any of the statistical analysis where certain election polling locations in Fulton , Philly and Detroit were significantly different (participation and margin) than polling locations in other areas with the exact same demographics and voting patterns. The PEW Institute and several Republican pollsters mentioned this in on air interviews but have never seen the data. Supposedly an expert voting statistician (I assume from PEW Institute) was prepared to testify for Trump in the Fulton Co case the results as reported was outside the standard deviations and were not comparable to Fulton Co previous results nor similar locations in other states. I have heard this but never seen any evidence to substantiate these claims.
I am not a betting man. But if I were, I would bet that Fulton, Dekalb and the rest won't have totals before midnight, this November. They have to see how much ground they have to make up, before the final priting, er, I mean, count. With all the technology we have today, why do you suppose the Atlanta area results are so slow to come in?
Again. They do not care. They will do it in the "open" because they know they can. I have to believe Kemp and more-so Rattensberger is in on it.
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