My biggest issue with Gaetz was his personal attacks and decision to vacate the house speaker simply because Kevin McCarthy refused to stop the ethics complaint against him. He single-handedly put the US at risk when we went days without a house leader.
Gaetz: AG
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Going to a party with girls, naked or not, is not a crime.
Again, I would hope for higher character (and more legal experience from an AG) but this is a nonstarter.
He did no wrong and no one has accused him of any wrong. The authorities concluded their investigation into him back in 2023. It’s over.
No one has accused him of any wrong?
In September 2024, court documents revealed that multiple eyewitnesses testified under oath that Gaetz attended a 2017 party where a 17-year-old girl was present. The affidavits describe the event as involving sexual activities and the use of drugs such as cocaine, ecstasy, and marijuana. One witness stated that the teenager was naked during the party.
Additionally, in January 2022, Joseph Ellicott, a former associate of Gaetz, testified that he overheard a 2017 phone conversation in which Joel Greenberg, another associate, informed Gaetz that the woman they had both been involved with was underage.
It may not have been enough to prosecute, but multiple eyewitnesses have accused him of wrongdoing. Is it too much to ask that our next AG not have been credibly accused of such things?
I tend to agree. But why? Trump has the senate and house. He doesn’t need a negotiating ploy… Any legit candidate for any position would be confirmed
Any legit candidate wouldn’t sign up for what Trump is going to ask them to do.
He clobbered her. Bad. You can put your head in the sand all you want. I hope the whole party continues to do it. Some of these picks are going to be hit or miss. But so far looks like exactly what should happen will.
Biden and Harris appointed the worst cabinet in the country’s history. Then refused to fire anyone for gross incompetence. This is what happens. There is so much to clean up from the last admin clusterf. Which is why he won the popular vote. Almost thought of as impossible before it happened. Let’s see what happens.
This guy has too many enemies to be approved. If he is by chance, it will at least be entertaining to watch what happens. The people at the top of his hit list have earned what is coming to them for sure.
That’s accurate …. don’t want to parse words about a mandate. He won by a solid stretch, and to the winner go the spoils. But, these picks are feeding the flames of his critics, including those within his party. There’s enough Senators with the balls to stand up against childish, ignorant nominations like Gaetz and Theguy Fromfox.
Would Gaetz be any worse AG as Garland?
So very thankful looking back that he was not brought up by the GOP senate for the open SCOTUS spot.
So very thankful looking back that he was not brought up by the GOP senate for the open SCOTUS spot.
Clobbered her bad? Math and history both disagree, but Trump always gets a sliding scale.
Disagree on hegseth. Think he has the chance to be great. Suppose you think Austin is more qualified ?
Are you talking about for AG specifically? Cause he has already tapped some very good very legit very qualified candidates for other posts
. I am sure if I asked you before the election you would have said it would never happen. No way no how. Call it whatever you want. The last 40 years tell you differently. There will be some bad choices. It is inevitable. But his hit rate can’t be worse than Joe’s.
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AG and SOD. If you are concerned about authoritarian leanings, those are by far the two most important nominations.
Austin was more qualified 3 months after he enlisted.
It is not too much, which is why I said I would have expected more from an AG.
But again, read your own post. Even if Matt Gaetz were accused, which he is not, he would still be presumed innocent. But that’s a pointless conversation because he is not even accused. The authorities closed this investigation back in 2023.
I suspect/hope that Matt Gaetz does not get confirmed by the United States Senate. I really don’t care about the stuff that happens off the field, it is simply not an experienced enough lawyer, to be Attorney General of the United States.
The Dems tried to push him on Trump, he nixed him....then Biden gave him the AG spot knowing how much he hated Trump and would enable the outrageous lawfare campaign
Maybe :
He graduated from the United States Military Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree and a commission in the Infantry. He holds a Master of Arts degree in counselor education from Auburn University, and a Master of Business Management from Webster University. He is a graduate of the Infantry Officer Basic and Advanced courses, the Army Command and General Staff College, and the Army War College.
His 41-year career in the Army included command at the corps, division, battalion, and brigade levels. Mr. Austin was awarded the Silver Star for his leadership of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division during the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Seven years later, he would assume the duties of Commanding General of United States Forces – Iraq, overseeing all combat operations in the country.
After a tour as the Army’s Vice Chief of Staff, Mr. Austin concluded his uniformed service as the Commander of U.S. Central Command, responsible for all military operations in the Middle East and Afghanistan. In this assignment, he led U.S. and coalition efforts to battle ISIS in Iraq and Syria. He retired from the Army in April, 2016.
it's not going to be a good look trying to defend Gaetz. It might be semantics, but he has certainly been accused of wrongdoing - sex-trafficking a 17 year old girl. As you should know some times prosecutors don't go forward with a case when they don't think they can win. Their biggest issue was that the main witness, Gaetz's friend is serving 11 years in Federal prison for the same crime. So yes, he is presumed innocent under our system, but he was still accused. Of course the House ethics investigation against him will come to a close since he is no longer a Congressman. Wonder what will happen if he is not confirmed.
To be clear: Gaetz is not now nor was ever accused in any criminal complaint. Ever.
Even in the article you posted, the complaining witness stated she had no sexual interaction with Gaetz.
He is COMPLETELY unqualified for AG, please focus on that.
The party that was at the time investigating one of their own members for sex with a minor nominating that same person for the highest law enforcement position in the land is so amazingly on brand for today's GOP. I guess the well-worn pedo accusations are only fun when it involves the opposition, not your future AG.
Also ironic he could be the one dealing with a bunch of interesting involvements with Epstein and diddy. That however will be fun imo.
Some potentially informed speculation is that this is all a ruse between Johnson, Trump and Gaetz.
Details of ethics charges against him are two days from being voted on for release, and the committee can't stand him so Gaetz has reason to resign as they could be very damaging or even criminal.
Johnson happy to get rid of a problem child with certain R replacement.
Trump loves to drive his enemies crazy and this does that trick, and makes it more likely that his other picks (including the replacement AG) are approved if this is the sacrificial lamb so everyone wins.
Have no idea if true, but plausible
Well, I will repeat what I posted before:
He (Austin) graduated from the United States Military Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree and a commission in the Infantry. He holds a Master of Arts degree in counselor education from Auburn University, and a Master of Business Management from Webster University. He is a graduate of the Infantry Officer Basic and Advanced courses, the Army Command and General Staff College, and the Army War College.
His 41-year career in the Army included command at the corps, division, battalion, and brigade levels. Mr. Austin was awarded the Silver Star for his leadership of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division during the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Seven years later, he would assume the duties of Commanding General of United States Forces – Iraq, overseeing all combat operations in the country.
After a tour as the Army’s Vice Chief of Staff, Mr. Austin concluded his uniformed service as the Commander of U.S. Central Command, responsible for all military operations in the Middle East and Afghanistan. In this assignment, he led U.S. and coalition efforts to battle ISIS in Iraq and Syria. He retired from the Army in April, 2016.
Missed that. very impressive. But results matter. Our military is broken. I will admit our use of pronouns is elite.
Also, it’s hard to command respect when you had a child out of wedlock and divorced your 2nd wife when you had 3 children under the age of 8 with her at the time. And your new baby mama was also married at the time with 3 young children of her own. Impressive, high character stuff. I’m sure it won’t come up during the confirmation hearings.
That kind of stuff troubles me when we are talking about this serious of a job.
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I’m more concerned with the shortage of munitions and troops. Seems to be a serious failure of leadership.
I’m not gonna argue about munitions and troops because I wouldn’t know what I was talking about. But I do know that if it’s a problem, there are many, many people more qualified to solve it than this guy.
I’m not that far out on a limb here.
In not arguing. Just stating a fact. But it absolutely proves. Austin wasn’t qualified. And another fact is you don’t know if Hegseth is qualified or not. Time will tell.
I know facts can be intimidating. Take your time with it
You may want to read the comments. To know why he was dressed like this. Do you like this one better? In case anyone is lazy, he went swimming in the Hudson with navy seals for charity.
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I would love it if this was true. Because Gaetz is horrible for AG.
Please be a master plan.
The Gaetz family is a powerful force in FL politics so this might be a way for him to save face. Who knows?
Tulsi Gabbard as DNI is almost as bad a nomination as Gaetz. Like Gaetz, she is completely unqualified for the job and to say that she is a Putin apologist is a huge understatement. If she is appointed, our allies will stop sharing critical intelligence.
Gabbard and Gaetz are nearly universally opposed on the Hill, which is why Trump is going to aggressively pursue recess appointments.
It may be a smokescreen giving Gaetz an excuse to resign from Congress which stops the ethics report about to come out concerning his being a sexual pervert with drugs and female minors. Apparently the report can not come out once he resigned and the report was apparently very bad for him.
Strongly doubt he pursues recess appointments, complex to execute and possible the Supreme Court intervenes, can’t take Trump literally in this stuff, it’s partly a show, partly a chess game but never checkers
Trump playing 3d chess with Gaetz, that will work out well for all concerned and once it plays out he will appoint a more traditional but still very loyal AG who will get approved
Gabbard more complicated and more difficult to predict. And if she is confirmed, allies will share what they always share, they all need us too much.
I think for most, even the mainstream media types, cabinet overall much less “offensive” to their sensibilities than predicted. They were laying in wait for other shoe to drop after so many semi conventional picks, thus the reaction to those two.
