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Harris campaign must not like their chances

Complaining about the electoral college a month BEFORE the election is a huge tell.

Tim Walz says the Electoral College ‘needs to go’ as Democrats fear 2016 repeat​

With Trump pulling back on National Interviews and Walz / Harris now opening up door to interviews you can surmise which candidate thinks they are winning, and which candidate thinks they are behind.

Here is article from today:


I think 4 weeks out, the Trump team is very confident. It could certainly go either way with a blunder or miscalculation, but recent polling has him up in Pennsylvania and Ga, if he wins those 2 its effectively over.

Suspect Trump goes dark except for rallies and Vance to do less press, no point in shooting yourself in the foot.
 
Complaining about the electoral college a month BEFORE the election is a huge tell.

Tim Walz says the Electoral College ‘needs to go’ as Democrats fear 2016 repeat​


Wasn’t he a teacher? He should go back and re-educate himself on why the EC matters! The ONLY reason he wants it gone is to ensure a one party system. 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
With Trump pulling back on National Interviews and Walz / Harris now opening up door to interviews you can surmise which candidate thinks they are winning, and which candidate thinks they are behind.

Here is article from today:


I think 4 weeks out, the Trump team is very confident. It could certainly go either way with a blunder or miscalculation, but recent polling has him up in Pennsylvania and Ga, if he wins those 2 its effectively over.

Suspect Trump goes dark except for rallies and Vance to do less press, no point in shooting yourself in the foot.
Put duct tape over his mouth. Immediately. Had that been done after the first assassination attempt, this race would be already over.
 
So much to wrap around that idiotic statement.

I will say the electoral college was put in place by men light years more intelligent than him.

He should probably shut the fvck up when speaking about things above his head
 
With Trump pulling back on National Interviews and Walz / Harris now opening up door to interviews you can surmise which candidate thinks they are winning, and which candidate thinks they are behind.

Here is article from today:


I think 4 weeks out, the Trump team is very confident. It could certainly go either way with a blunder or miscalculation, but recent polling has him up in Pennsylvania and Ga, if he wins those 2 its effectively over.

Suspect Trump goes dark except for rallies and Vance to do less press, no point in shooting yourself in the foot.
and it will be
 
The electoral college was put in place when you were trying to get every state to buy in. A lot of our system actually revolved around protecting slavery.

The thing is it’s not even about big states vs small states. It comes down to a very small number of states unless the election is a landslide. I don’t even know if it’s about representation in those states even really happens. Is it the clear will of that state when it comes down to less than one percent of the vote there.

It also makes candidates focused on narrow issues for swing voters in certain states while large parts of the country are basically ignored. That is teallly destructive in a Drmocracy.

It is astounding that people don’t support the one man one vote concept with every vote counting the same
 
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The electoral college was put in place when you were trying to get every state to buy in. A lot of our system actually revolved around protecting slavery.

The thing is it’s not even about big states vs small states. It comes down to a very small number of states unless the election is a landslide. I don’t even know if it’s about representation in those states even really happens. Is it the clear will of that state when it comes down to less than one percent of the vote there.

It also makes candidates focused on narrow issues for swing voters in certain states while large parts of the country are basically ignored. That is teallly destructive in a Drmocracy.

It is astounding that people don’t support the one man one vote concept with every vote counting the same
Why don’t we just let the states vote and make all the rules for each state as well. It can be a trade off. Since most of the counties are red. It will give a voice to smaller rural cities and not so many from your huge cesspools where people are conditioned to vote one way. They still think the democrats are the party for the poor. Despite 70 percent of all billionaires now identifying as democrats. I do understand how simple that would be, (one person one vote)but this would give New York and LA a massive amount of power. Basically deciding for the rest of the country. If you think that wouldn’t be a trainwreck I don’t have the words.
 
It would seem abolishing the Electoral College is a key piece of "saving democracy" for progressives.
I would not take too much from any MSM these days. Earlier today ABC had an article stating Harris had moved to a comfortable 7 point lead in the election; less than 30 minutes later CBS has an article saying Democrats are in panic mode because Harris is trailing Trump in most of the swing states.
Later in the day Fox has an article stating Trump has made up a 7 point deficit to Harris and is now leading; a couple of hours later Newsmax states Trump in serious trouble.
 
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The electoral college was put in place when you were trying to get every state to buy in. A lot of our system actually revolved around protecting slavery.

The thing is it’s not even about big states vs small states. It comes down to a very small number of states unless the election is a landslide. I don’t even know if it’s about representation in those states even really happens. Is it the clear will of that state when it comes down to less than one percent of the vote there.

It also makes candidates focused on narrow issues for swing voters in certain states while large parts of the country are basically ignored. That is teallly destructive in a Drmocracy.

It is astounding that people don’t support the one man one vote concept with every vote counting the same
With IDs
 
The electoral college was put in place when you were trying to get every state to buy in. A lot of our system actually revolved around protecting slavery.

The thing is it’s not even about big states vs small states. It comes down to a very small number of states unless the election is a landslide. I don’t even know if it’s about representation in those states even really happens. Is it the clear will of that state when it comes down to less than one percent of the vote there.

It also makes candidates focused on narrow issues for swing voters in certain states while large parts of the country are basically ignored. That is teallly destructive in a Drmocracy.

It is astounding that people don’t support the one man one vote concept with every vote counting the same
It is designed to protect against mob rule.
 
It is designed to protect against mob rule.
With California now saying they may have more votes than registered voters, I am thankful for the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson and our other forefathers. I can't imagine this nation trying to function with policy being dictated by LA and NYC.
 
lol what so state legislatures can elect prominent gentlemen. We can fight the evils of populism and factionalism. That’s very 18th century of you
Dude, half the country would be marginalized. Your vote in Georgia would be worthless. If citizens in Iowa, NH, WY and KS (just to name a few) have no skin on the game, why would they remain part of the country? Why pay federal taxes? Why serve in the military? Why vote?

Our forefathers were significantly more thoughtful than you.
 
Dude, half the country would be marginalized. Your vote in Georgia would be worthless. If citizens in Iowa, NH, WY and KS (just to name a few) have no skin on the game, why would they remain part of the country? Why pay federal taxes? Why serve in the military? Why vote?

Our forefathers were significantly more thoughtful than you.
The people who are marginalized are those in states where one party who they are not a part of consistently wins. There are states on both sides where one party always wins but the minority party frequently gets 45 percent of the vote.

Even in deep red or deep blue states there are sizable opposition voters. Would it be terrible if those voters were catered to?
 
It would seem abolishing the Electoral College is a key piece of "saving democracy" for progressives.
I would not take too much from any MSM these days. Earlier today ABC had an article stating Harris had moved to a comfortable 7 point lead in the election; less than 30 minutes later CBS has an article saying Democrats are in panic mode because Harris is trailing Trump in most of the swing states.
Later in the day Fox has an article stating Trump has made up a 7 point deficit to Harris and is now leading; a couple of hours later Newsmax states Trump in serious trouble.
The spread on Polymarket is the largest since right after Biden dropped out with Trump having a 55% chance of being elected and Kamala having a 44% chance.
 
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Complaining about the electoral college a month BEFORE the election is a huge tell.

Tim Walz says the Electoral College ‘needs to go’ as Democrats fear 2016 repeat​

Getting desperate
 
With Trump pulling back on National Interviews and Walz / Harris now opening up door to interviews you can surmise which candidate thinks they are winning, and which candidate thinks they are behind.

Here is article from today:


I think 4 weeks out, the Trump team is very confident. It could certainly go either way with a blunder or miscalculation, but recent polling has him up in Pennsylvania and Ga, if he wins those 2 its effectively over.

Suspect Trump goes dark except for rallies and Vance to do less press, no point in shooting yourself in the foot.
Vance doesn’t shoot himself in the foot, great choice for VP.
 
The people who are marginalized are those in states where one party who they are not a part of consistently wins. There are states on both sides where one party always wins but the minority party frequently gets 45 percent of the vote.

Even in deep red or deep blue states there are sizable opposition voters. Would it be terrible if those voters were catered to?
Like Calif.

Think of it this way. Because it's so enormous, there are more GOP in Calif than anywhere, but they're not represented. Talk about taxation without representation. That state needs to be split up.
 
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There it is. The auto fall back when no credible argument exists.

Pathetic.
I see someone has an issue with the classical liberal position on franchise.

Frankly I would prefer if it we could go back to feudal system of government but that’s not realistic.
 
Like Calif.

Think of it this way. Because it's so enormous, there are more GOP in Calif than anywhere, but they're not represented. Talk about taxation. At least every vote countd without representation. That state needs to be split up.
Yes. That’s why I support the popular vote.
Like Calif.

Think of it this way. Because it's so enormous, there are more GOP in Calif than anywhere, but they're not represented. Talk about taxation without representation. That state needs to be split up.
Yes like California and Texas and frankly a pretty high percentage of the country. It’s pretty clear who will win state wide but there are sizable minorities.

As to state sizes most states are uneven. If you address the big ones you have to address the small ones too and it would need to be done consistently and with regard to geography not trying to engineer states and districts to vote a particular way.
 
Yes. That’s why I support the popular vote.

Yes like California and Texas and frankly a pretty high percentage of the country. It’s pretty clear who will win state wide but there are sizable minorities.

As to state sizes most states are uneven. If you address the big ones you have to address the small ones too and it would need to be done consistently and with regard to geography not trying to engineer states and districts to vote a particular way.
You're never convincing the majority. Thankfully, too many understand the danger and likelihood of overreach and abuse. So, I suggest you move on to another issue.
 
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You're never convincing the majority. Thankfully, too many understand the danger and likelihood of overreach and abuse. So, I suggest you move on to another issue.
I don’t think a Constitutional amendment is likely as things stand. I do think a compact among enough states for its electors to support the winner of the popular vote is completely out of the question.
 
Complaining about the electoral college a month BEFORE the election is a huge tell.

Tim Walz says the Electoral College ‘needs to go’ as Democrats fear 2016 repeat​

No matter which side of the issue you are on, the Electorial College is here to stay, unless 2/3 of both houses of Congress vote to amend the constitution and 3/4 of the states ratify it.
 
No matter which side of the issue you are on, the Electorial College is here to stay, unless 2/3 of both houses of Congress vote to amend the constitution and 3/4 of the states ratify it.
You are right. It won't happen. However there are polls that over 60 percent of voters support the popular vote as the decider. I don't think a compact between certain states to commit their delegates to the winner of the popular vote is out of the question. If you could get a few of the right states to commit their delegates to the winner of the popular vote it might happen.

There is something called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It's not impossible but far more likely than a Constitutional amendment.
 
You are right. It won't happen. However there are polls that over 60 percent of voters support the popular vote as the decider. I don't think a compact between certain states to commit their delegates to the winner of the popular vote is out of the question. If you could get a few of the right states to commit their delegates to the winner of the popular vote it might happen.

There is something called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It's not impossible but far more likely than a Constitutional amendment.
I'd like to see how the poll was conducted and exactly the question posed. Inform them what it really means, and by a broad majority, this country still agrees everyone should have a voice and that CA and NY cannot permanently dictate life in GA and WY. Our Constitution is founded, in part, upon giving the minority a voice and insuring everyone has a stake. It's truly ingenious. The majority still rules, of course, but you can't permanently disenfranchise large swaths of the country.
 
If we do away with the electoral college, then it will ramp up cheating. States with lax ID laws will have their will and do anything that they want. Right now, there is a check, so it is confined to one state.
 
The Harris campaign is in complete meltdown mode right now. The infighting is crazy right now.
 
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