If Trump is smart, and I think he's surrounded himself with a far better staff, he'll hammer this every single day.
The lowest point under Kamala is higher than the highest point under Trump. How does that help Kamala?but I thought he said he would end illegal immigration? Based on that chart illegal immigration still happened under Trump. so I guess we shoul should expect illegal immigration to continue under Trump? that feels counter to agenda 47.
also, that chart shows illegal immigration trending down. Not sure how that helps Trump to hammer that point home, but give it a go.
Your side sued to stop him. Explain that, Poindexter.but I thought he said he would end illegal immigration? Based on that chart illegal immigration still happened under Trump. so I guess we shoul should expect illegal immigration to continue under Trump? that feels counter to agenda 47.
also, that chart shows illegal immigration trending down. Not sure how that helps Trump to hammer that point home, but give it a go.
How does hammering home a point that illegal immigration is trending down to levels seen under trump...help...trump?The lowest point under Kamala is higher than the highest point under Trump. How does that help Kamala?
You're helping make my point. Trump can't END illegal immigration like his platform says. But if illegal immigration is trending down like the chart illustrates, what point is trump going to "hammer home"? Please advise.Your side sued to stop him. Explain that, Poindexter.
You do know it’s an election year and you will also post the economy is getting better but we ALL know it’s not. Have a good dayHow does hammering home a point that illegal immigration is trending down to levels seen under trump...help...trump?
You're helping make my point. Trump can't END illegal immigration like his platform says. But if illegal immigration is trending down like the chart illustrates, what point is trump going to "hammer home"? Please advise.
I'm trying to reconcile the advice above that trump should hammer home a point that something is improving under his opponents admin....You do know it’s an election year and you will also post the economy is getting better but we ALL know it’s not. Have a good day
TRUMP CLAMPDOWN BEGINSI'm trying to reconcile the advice above that trump should hammer home a point that something is improving under his opponents admin....
Doesn't sound like a sound strategy but give it a go...
Did you see where illegal immigration happened every year under trump, yet he is running on ENDING illegal immigration just by reinstituting those past policies? Hammer that point home... pleaseTRUMP CLAMPDOWN BEGINS
Do you see that part? Literally everything after that is a disaster.
He's not. He hasn't. He won't.If Trump is smart, and I think he's surrounded himself with a far better staff, he'll hammer this every single day.
You are dishonest with your arguments, but Ill play along. He had to get the tarriffs in place and then the Remain In Mexico policy in place- then do you see in 2020 where the LARGE RED ARROW pointing up is?Did you see where illegal immigration happened every year under trump, yet he is running on ENDING illegal immigration just by reinstituting those past policies? Hammer that point home... please
Also...maybe it's best he check the sources of his photos in his ads and NOT use images where immigrants crossed UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION....that's the first advice I would give....
This chart shows apprehensions. Of course apprehensions went down during COVID. The entire world was immobilized...also seems like the Biden admin is apprehending quite a lot of illegal immigrants.If Trump is smart, and I think he's surrounded himself with a far better staff, he'll hammer this every single day.
You are dishonest with your arguments, but Ill play along. He had to get the tarriffs in place and then the Remain In Mexico policy in place- then do you see in 2020 where the LARGE RED ARROW pointing up is?
Then he lost the election and Biden opened the border. You can spin this 6 ways from Sunday but the border is a LOSER for the Dems.
Also, who cares about pictures, nobody cares. For every picture there are other pics and videos of thousands crossing the border illegally.
It’s trending down because there is an election coming up. Immigration is a losing argument for your side so you might as well move on to other issues. Maybe on some of those you will be able to control your narrative better.How does hammering home a point that illegal immigration is trending down to levels seen under trump...help...trump?
You're helping make my point. Trump can't END illegal immigration like his platform says. But if illegal immigration is trending down like the chart illustrates, what point is trump going to "hammer home"? Please advise.
Thank you for proving my point.How did Biden "open the border"? He has deported 5x the number as Trump.
How do you deport 5 times more than Trump, unless , wait a minute - you have 5 times more people coming in?Thank you for proving my point.
How do you deport 5 times more than Trump, unless , wait a minute - you have 5 times more people coming in?
"The 2.5 million encounters of migrants occurring at the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal year (FY) 2023 represent a new historic high, topping the prior year's record, as has been widely noted since the recent release of year-end government statistics.Oct 22, 2023" - from migrationpolicy.org
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Migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border hit a record high at the end of 2023
The U.S. Border Patrol had nearly 250,000 encounters with migrants crossing into the United States from Mexico in December 2023.www.pewresearch.org
So do you honestly think that everyone coming to the border is turned back? There were 250,000 in Dec 23 alone. You are absolutely apologizing for Biden, and youre not being honest at all.How do you deport 5 times more than Trump, unless , wait a minute - you have 5 times more people coming in?
And then sending them right back out.
Look, I'm no Biden apologist, but you have to debate issues in good faith. Debate substance. Discuss policy and ramifications.
"Biden opened the border" is a dishonest misrepresantion of what is happening.
Disagree. Debate. Have some intellectual honesty.
The House fought him tooth and nail. He got his way and look what happened. He had it to the lowest point in any recent time.but I thought he said he would end illegal immigration? Based on that chart illegal immigration still happened under Trump. so I guess we shoul should expect illegal immigration to continue under Trump? that feels counter to agenda 47.
also, that chart shows illegal immigration trending down. Not sure how that helps Trump to hammer that point home, but give it a go.
So do you honestly think that everyone coming to the border is turned back? There were 250,000 in Dec 23 alone.
PW- dont pay any attention to the charts, graphs and videos all showing the border is wide open! Dont believe your lying eyes. Joe Biden is great and should be on Mt Rushmore.The House fought him tooth and nail. He got his way and look what happened. He had it to the lowest point in any recent time.
The walk was going up and we were playing hardball.
With Biden, it immediately skyrocketed.
How in the world could this happen!
Which half am I telling ?But you are only telling half the story.
What makes up this 250,000 number?
Of the 250,000 how many were deported?
Of those that were not, why?
You don't know. You are argueing a point from ignornace. Now, go google and find out. I'll be waiting. Don't worry, we will act like you knew all along.
Your numbers are literally so far off , no wonder youre so wrong on this. ICE reported 142k for the entire year.Fact - Joe Biden has sent 4.4 million illegal immigants back across the border.
But, he has "opened the border".
You guys are sheep.
Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors immigration enforcement, said the increase in deportations remains a tiny share of those arriving at the southern border.Fact - Joe Biden has sent 4.4 million illegal immigants back across the border.
But, he has "opened the border".
You guys are sheep.
I think I will go with the people at the border doing border patrol. The ones who said it would be a cold day in hell before they endorsed Biden taking a shit. Seemed pretty clear to me that his border policies sucked. 8 million people came across illegally. More than the population of 36 states.How do you deport 5 times more than Trump, unless , wait a minute - you have 5 times more people coming in?
And then sending them right back out.
Look, I'm no Biden apologist, but you have to debate issues in good faith. Debate substance. Discuss policy and ramifications.
"Biden opened the border" is a dishonest misrepresantion of what is happening.
Disagree. Debate. Have some intellectual honesty.
Or...maybe you are argueing from ignorance again.Your numbers are literally so far off , no wonder youre so wrong on this. ICE reported 142k for the entire year.
Per the WaPo_ https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2023/12/29/immigrants-ice-border-deportations-2023/
Definetly seems like a problem. If only we could get a Republican leader to sponsor an immigration bill that would pass both houses of Congress and that Biden would sign.
Or...maybe you are argueing from ignorance again.
Is ICE the only agency that deports?
Are there different types of deportations? Like say from the interior vs the border?
Are there different terms?Like deportations vs repatriation?
Would different groups play with these terms to skew data in their favor? Would the sheeple mindlessly share it on social media?
Fact - the Biden admin has sent 4.4 million people back across the border. The most of any Presidential term since W's second.
did you read that bill? If you did and still think it is a good idea. Shame on you. And if you ever become a pub again, this line of thinking is what got us into the crap we reside in currently. It spawned trump. You hate him right. Then like other pubs, grow a backbone and he will go away. The pubs who backed this bill should be ashamed of themselves. It would have been a dem win. Instead Biden had to rebuild the wall, and admit he was wrong by instituting things he already had in the books. In was in his hands the whole time. And he proved it.Definetly seems like a problem. If only we could get a Republican leader to sponsor an immigration bill that would pass both houses of Congress and that Biden would sign.
Please post your source for the 4.4 million deportations.Or...maybe you are argueing from ignorance again.
Is ICE the only agency that deports?
Are there different types of deportations? Like say from the interior vs the border?
Are there different terms?Like deportations vs repatriation?
Would different groups play with these terms to skew data in their favor? Would the sheeple mindlessly share it on social media?
Fact - the Biden admin has sent 4.4 million people back across the border. The most of any Presidential term since W's second.
It doesnt blow anything out of the water for me... I'm not a Biden apologist...merely an advocate for the truth.
This pretty much blows this entire thread out of the water for you. Even the post says Biden deported more. But that is because he didn’t stop anyone from coming in. Also the amount he let in from other countries besides Mexico is mind blowing. Left leaning rag posted this.
Read the wapo article. He deported a boatload, but the article clearly states he let way, way more in. So he had to deport more.Please post your source for the 4.4 million deportations.
Oh, so now youre saying the data is wrong? Is the Washington Post in favor of Republicans?
Please post your source for the 4.4 million deportations.
Oh, so now youre saying the data is wrong? Is the Washington Post in favor of Republicans?
Holy smokes. Deal in truth. Some agree some disagree with his border policy. That isn’t a truth or Biden is still the candidate. Most disagreed. You can’t say you deal in truth then do the opposite.It doesnt blow anything out of the water for me... I'm not a Biden apologist...merely an advocate for the truth.
Lets try this...
We have a problem at the border...an illegal immigration crisis. FACT.
Biden has some misguided policies. FACT.
Biden has opened the border and is letting everyone cross unfettered. FALSE.
Biden has shifted immigation policy to deal with the border and not round up and deport people living in the interior. FACT.
Some agree, some disagree with this shift. FACT.
Every recent President in recent history has had to deal with this crisis and the subsequent moral dilemmas. FACT.
Biden is a part of nefarious conspiracy to allow immigrants to flow across the border and destroy American democracy as we know it. FASLE
A decent border control bill was proposed by Republicans and would have been signed by Biden but tanked due to Trump's influence and political expediency. FACT.
Biden sent back 4.4 million illegal immigrants. FACT.
Trump is a fool. FACT
So the mindless Trump cult that has consistenlty told me to compromise my principles and not let a rigid adherence to ideals prevent the best solution we have for the Presidency...is now telling me that its better to not address the border and let this national security crisis continue than to pass a decent middle of the road bill.did you read that bill? If you did and still think it is a good idea. Shame on you. And if you ever become a pub again, this line of thinking is what got us into the crap we reside in currently. It spawned trump. You hate him right. Then like other pubs, grow a backbone and he will go away. The pubs who backed this bill should be ashamed of themselves. It would have been a dem win. Instead Biden had to rebuild the wall, and admit he was wrong by instituting things he already had in the books. In was in his hands the whole time. And he proved it.
It screwed Biden so bad the Dems forced him out. They didn’t care about his health. If he was winning in the polls, he would still be the nominee
To tone this down a little. Compromise is always a good thing. For sure. But not when you are the one constantly taking it on the chin. This is what spawned Trump. More than anything else. People didn’t feel like they had a voice. The one they had wouldn’t say or do what their constituents wanted. Because they didn’t want to upset the status quo.So the mindless Trump cult that has consistenlty told me to compromise my principles and not let a rigid adherence to ideals prevent the best solution we have for the Presidency...is now telling me that its better to not address the border and let this national security crisis continue than to pass a decent middle of the road bill.
So answer this... Should compromise be off the table?
Or, is the border really not the immediate and existential national security threat presented?
Just curious.
Our government does exist within a system of checks and balances. And a representative system does require compromise. Its a feature, not a bug.
Funny how the media is trying so hard no put this topic to bed the last few weeks…MINIMUM 10 MILLION HAVE ENTERED THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY (and all the shi+ that comes with it) since the DEI Queen border czar Kamala and Biden implemented all the Executive privileges Day 1 of this disastrous administrationIf Trump is smart, and I think he's surrounded himself with a far better staff, he'll hammer this every single day.
As others have pointed out the left did everything in their power to prevent Trump from succeeding at closing the border. Sued his actions, refused to give him any money for a wall... Then on day one, Biden canceled ever EO and reversed the policies that were working. Shut down construction on the wall, canceled remain in Mexico and put out the welcome mat.This chart shows apprehensions. Of course apprehensions went down during COVID. The entire world was immobilized...also seems like the Biden admin is apprehending quite a lot of illegal immigrants.
Don't get me wrong, the number of immigrants are up under Biden, but be honest and concede that deportations are up as well. In fact, they have almost tripled.