Is anyone else " Feeling the Bern"
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U must want the Bern to pay your college loans. A man who let a couple women from BLM take over his microphone and run him off the stage is not a man. He is even afraid to say "All Lives Matter".His foreign policy would be the same. If he can't stand up to 2 women, Putin would scare him to death.
I paid my way through UGA without any loans or help from my parents. Why would he say " All Lives matter" in that context. I doubt Putin would scare him. It's hard to scare an old man.
There is no context where "all lives matter" is inappropriate. He is simply afraid of BLM. He was run off the stage and a real man wouldn't have allowed that to happen. He has no foreign policy at least stated and increasing taxes will cause lost jobs not bring our country back to prosperity.
How will Increasing taxes on the rich cause lost jobs? I have a degree in Economics ( not pretending to be an expert) and the only people that say that are Corporations, The rich and the politicians that support them.
Whatever Bernie's Foreign policy is, it will likely be more in line with other Democrats. Hopefully more like President Obama's
Bernie's an economically illiterate socialist (as if they come in the economically literate variety). But, like Trump, and unlike Hillary, Bernie is authentic. He's crazy and he's not faking it. I suppose if I were angry and envious of what the next guy had and felt the government owed me a comfortable wage, free college and free health care and that people who achieved financial success were just society's lottery winners, then I would feel the Bern. But, of all the candidates, he would be my last choice.
Most economists, the real economists, not the Marxist whack jobs like Robert Reich or any of the carousel of economists who worked on the Obama economic team (the mother of all of oxymorons), would argue that if you raise the price of labor on employers then, all other things being equal, fewer units of labor will be demanded by the employers.
Bernie wants free healthcare for all, free tuition for colleges, $15/hr minimum wages, more regs on businesses, more taxes on businesses such as a carbon tax and will tax the rich to achieve this. This is crazy. There is not enough money even if u take all the income on Wall St. This would lead to taxes on everyone and a 25% VAT on all purchases like in Europe. In a scenario like this and massive immigration, UE will go up significantly. .
We know Bernie can't do financial math, but he is a lawyer, after all. Did you know that he was quite the radical in his younger days? Bernie never met an anti-American cause he couldn't get behind. But, that's what it takes to win the Democratic nomination these days. I hope he's the nominee. He's Howard Dean/Lawrence O'Donnell, foaming at the mouth, bat-sh-t crazy.
Better him than Frank Underwood in a dress (Hillary)
Of Course all lives matter but when in response to BLM it is a refusal to listen to theie plea
Since when is being a radical as a young man a bad thing. Anti-American? Were all the prostersters against the Vietnam War Anti-American.
Change only comes when we resist
When we realize that we can do better than this
The country we love
Is better than this
If you can't see how the economy is rigged in favor of the uber-rich, then we have nothing to talk about. I'm not envious, I am outraged that most people can't take off their lackluster red, white, and blue shades and see what this country could be. When they put those shades back on, they may see a more brilliant shade of red, white and blue.
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I paid my way through col
U must want the Bern to pay your college loans.
You don't know sh-t about me
Fathers Service Station < $1.00/hr plus a moonpie and RC cola
Cutting grass 12yo - present
Thorton's Plant Shed Tifton, Ga 1969-1971 $1.30/hr
USDA Tifton 1973-1975 1.60/hr
Stone Food Co Oneta st Athens ga 6am-9am $3.00/hr
St Mary's Hospital EMT/Paramedic $3.00/hr 1977-1979
Athens Regional
Took the GRE the day my son was born
No loans , No parents help
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Why do you hate the once great nation of The United States of America enough to allow ANY of the dems run it in the ground more than obama has done? Big government is the reason we are up to our eyeballs in debt now. obama said it was unpatriotic when G.W. Bush proposed some of his programs and incurred more debt for this nation (Bush spent our money like a democrat), then obama proceeded to spend more money than all the previous president's combined to push his wasteful big government programs. These programs payed back the democratic donors and lined the pockets of politicians, when the rest of the working class screamed NO! Reagan had it right, lower taxes and the income for all grew including the federal government. You can not tax prosperity on a nation. It is a sad day when candidates like this are seriously being considered to run our nation. I am afraid we have reached the point of no return where the dems have destroyed this nation with their giveaways and forced labor increases.
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Wow, Why do I hate the US? Why do you hate the US enough to vote for any of the Republicans running. Please tell me you don't watch Fox news or we can't be best friends.
Do you remember that we had a budget surplus under Bill Clinton ?Reagan had to steal from social security to save face
Socialism scares the crap out of me. It has failed everywhere it has been tried.
Yet, we have people in this country that somehow think that it will be different here. It won't. That is absolutely crazy talk.
Yet, we have people in this country that somehow think that it will be different here. It won't. That is absolutely crazy talk.
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As Reagan once said " The trouble with liberals is not that they are ignorant but that they know so much that isn't so. Whether social security has been treated on budget or off budget, the raiding of SS started under JFK. Since then both parties have used SS like one would use a bank account. As for the budget surplus under Clinton, he was dragged kicking and screaming to cut spending by the Gingrich led House. While the budget deficit approached a surplus, the national debt was $5T at the end of his 2nd term. At the end of Bush's 2nd term the national debt had increased to around $10T. After obama's 2nd term it will approach $20T which is more than all other presidents combined.
I don't see how u can vote for the Free Stuff Party. They are financially illiterate and have shown they care more about party than the safety and well being of the American people.
Here's a short history of social security and there are links. Big problem with the W admin was they put the wars on a credit card, not in the budget, which has an effect on the current debt as it was moved back. I think capping social security payroll is mistake and could solve some problems.
https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
By the way, full disclosure, I'm not one that hates the US or the govt and still think we're great. The best country in the world to live in. Some of these people (not here, on tv) need to move to another country if they hate it so much here.
And I consider myself an independent.
https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
By the way, full disclosure, I'm not one that hates the US or the govt and still think we're great. The best country in the world to live in. Some of these people (not here, on tv) need to move to another country if they hate it so much here.
And I consider myself an independent.
OK, since you say you studied economics, let me refresh your memory. There are four factors of production: land, labor, capital and entrepreneurship. Capital is what defines the rich, so they have at least one factor that the rest of us don't. Owning land helps too. That's two factors the rich possess that everyone else doesn't. So what? Someone in their family earned it. That doesn't give anyone license to take it away. So, capitalism has a built in bias to people who possess capital and land. Everyone else has a right to sell as much labor and entrepreneurship they can muster. If you think leveling the playing field is the way to make the US more productive, I suggest you look at other countries where they leveled the playing field: Cuba, Venezuela, the old Soviet Union from 1917-1991, Communist China from 1949-1978. Not much to emulate there. We're currently growing real GDP at a rate of 2% per year. The 50 year average is 3% per year. What's changed? Obama and his band of collectivists who empower the State at the expense of the private sector, that's what. He's killed the coal industry and wants to kill off the rest of fossil fuels, as well. He's neutered the financial services industry, cynically blaming the banks for the housing crash the government and it's Government Sponsored Entities, FNMA and FHLMC, caused. You want a more productive America? We need a lot less of Bernie and a lot more of what the GOP candidates are talking about: lower personal income taxes, repeal of the job killing Obamacare law, roll back sections of Dodd Frank so a bank can actually make a loan to a viable small business without setting aside punitive amounts of capital. Who is a better underwriter of risk, the Federal Government or a local banker who knows his customer?
Amen, Brother Hoffman. However, in terms of trying to educate our pro-Bernie poster, I'm reminded of a saying about teaching a pig to sing. It's not recommended. It's frustrates the teacher and irritates the pig.
Two points: Point 1. According to the official govt numbers, after the Bush tax cuts, the revenues increased and deficits decreased. At the end of 2007 and before the subprime mortgage crisis, the budget deficit had gone down to $161B. So tax cuts do produce revenue from greater economic activity. I see no evidence of putting the war costs on a credit card. I think that must be democrat talking points. Otherwise there would have to be an * explaining it. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200
Point 2. Illegal immigrants steal identities or social security numbers and get fraudulent social security funds and many also get fraudulent social security disability benefits. Costing us billions.
Mr. Babble, What is this communism you speak of. Bernie Sanders is not a communist.
Well, I guees economic degrees are easy to come by these days. A Country has never taxed its way to prosperity . The Gov does not produce anything. Why give them more money? Do you think their efficient in their spending? Do you think taking money out of the economy (from those who earn it) then giving it to the Gov to spend makes sense?
Look up Slick willies luxury taxes on Boats? It was only to "get those rich bastards" What happened? They quit buying boats. Lots of ppl lost jobs. Silly liberals
1980,
We have the highest corporate taxes in the world so companies would be foolisn to bring that money back to the States. Many repub candidates want to cut the taxes on monies coming back to the USA so it could be brought back here and used to stimulate our economy. As for corporate welfare, the export-import bank is one where politically connected companies get special govt financing for international transactions. It was extended for 6 yrs even though many cons like Cruz who were against it. Both establishment repubs and dems were for it.
As for billionaires, there are many who give away their fortunes and establish state of the art cancer center like Jon Huntsman.. Bill Gates, Zuckerburg,are giving away much of their wealth. and the hated Koch bros give millions to worthy charities. They also have created thousands of jobs during their lives. So I don't know why u begrudge people their wealth. Many earned it the hard way..
Yes he is. He's also a buffoon. I mean these liberals put up the most disgusting POS they can find it seems. The simply aren't serious ppl. Sanders, Clinton, POSOTUS. Kerry. Gore. I mean damn. Thats just a group of misfit morons. How utterly stupid does a person have to be to look at these clowns and go " Yea they speak to me" Just dumb
He is a self proclaimed Socialist which is just around the corner from a communist.The point being we have no room for either in the US. Capitalism is the only system where all can have a fair chance to achieve by their willingness to work hard to earn a living. Liberals obviously can not stand this because there are winners and losers. It seems the achievers are hated by the non-achievers as part of a class warfare belief spread by the liberals to vilify the successful. You can choose to bust your but and earn your own way, or suck off the government tit and bitch because you don't have what the achievers have. I choose self reliance and less government intrusion, but to many leeches in today's world make that more difficult as time progresses.
