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Early in season one…serious issues with the story line and butch macho BS…. Does it get better or move on? I know most of you like the show.
If you don't like it after 2 episodes, you won't like it the rest of the way. I liked it, but it isn't great by any means. And I liked the beginning better than the end.
 
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Early in season one…serious issues with the story line and butch macho BS…. Does it get better or move on? I know most of you like the show.
Exactly what I went through on episode one last week. Not even remotely realistic.

Well made but 5'5 chicks aren't running a Special Ops team abroad killing terrorists at will and saving the world.

Fell asleep at the start of episode 2..................thankfully.
 
It’s 1 of Sheridan’s better shows IMO. I was pretty gripped after the first episode personally. It’s a dark, brutal plot, but it comes full circle sans some of the personal life stuff he sprinkles in. That isn’t so much a main storyline as ancillary to support how country and job comes before all else, family included, for those types of jobs.

Every Sheridan show or movie is wrote in 5’s, each episode is 5 sub acts that make up 2.5 acts per, every 2 episode is 1 act towards the 5 total over the course of 10 episode season.
 
Early in season one…serious issues with the story line and butch macho BS…. Does it get better or move on? I know most of you like the show.
I would move on. The stuff that bothers you now gets worse as the seasons progress. We watched season 1 and are caught up in season 2, but will probably pull the plug and not finish it. Pretty silly in my opinion.
 
It’s 1 of Sheridan’s better shows IMO. I was pretty gripped after the first episode personally. It’s a dark, brutal plot, but it comes full circle sans some of the personal life stuff he sprinkles in. That isn’t so much a main storyline as ancillary to support how country and job comes before all else, family included, for those types of jobs.

Every Sheridan show or movie is wrote in 5’s, each episode is 5 sub acts that make up 2.5 acts per, every 2 episode is 1 act towards the 5 total over the course of 10 episode season.


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Sounds like it's a Tarrantino movie only different?
 
Exactly what I went through on episode one last week. Not even remotely realistic.

Well made but 5'5 chicks aren't running a Special Ops team abroad killing terrorists at will and saving the world.

Fell asleep at the start of episode 2..................thankfully.
Aren’t most special forces operators more small, whippy guys? Not saying you’re wrong, but I didn’t think those counter-terrorism operatives were the biggest dudes in the armed forces
 
Early in season one…serious issues with the story line and butch macho BS…. Does it get better or move on? I know most of you like the show.
Let me guess. Every single woman on the show is brilliant while every man has the IQ of a cantaloupe? Also every woman is a better warrior than any of the special forces guys?
 
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Aren’t most special forces operators more small, whippy guys? Not saying you’re wrong, but I didn’t think those counter-terrorism operatives were the biggest dudes in the armed forces
Suppose they come in all sizes but per Ai :

The average height of a Navy SEAL is 70.3 inches, and the average weight is 179 pounds. However, the majority of Navy SEALs fall within a bell curve, with most being between 68–72 inches tall and 175–195 pounds.

The average Delta Force operator is likely to be around 5'10" and weigh between 170-190 pounds; this falls within the "average-sized man" range, with enough height and muscle mass to perform well in demanding special operations training and missions.

Women 110% belong in the services........just not in a infantry/Spec Ops combat role. They cannot carry the weapons and combat loads that males can nor do they have the strength and endurance...................it's not their fault. They quickly become liabilities in that role.

There are plenty of combat roles they can do like pilots, fly drones, mechanized units etc etc etc.
 
Let me guess. Every single woman on the show is brilliant while every man has the IQ of a cantaloupe. Also every woman is a better warrior than any of the special forces guys?
Actually, every woman is pretty vulnerable including Nicole Kidman's character who to me is portrayed as an emotional shell of what might have been a great wife and mother in another world, but is now all in on getting sh*t done in her role.

The topic of women either giving up or significantly compromising their role as wives or mothers to "do what men do" is consistently on display in various ways in both seasons.

I laugh when people call a TV show or movie unrealistic. I know that's why I hated Terminator, Alien, and Predator.

Seriously though, the vulnerability of women in the context of national security is always there as it not only threatens each woman, but potentially the missions themselves. So it's actually skewed towards more realism than having physical superwomen wipe our evil easily at every turn while carrying incompetent males along the way.
 
Let me guess. Every single woman on the show is brilliant while every man has the IQ of a cantaloupe. Also every woman is a better warrior than any of the special forces guys?
That’s part of it, but the new recruit meets her targets daughter and is already on the inside….after she barely spoke to her…it’s the disingenuous quality in all of his shows I dislike. Same with Yellowstone… it became hard to watch. Landman is really good through two episodes in.
 
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Suppose they come in all sizes but per Ai :

The average height of a Navy SEAL is 70.3 inches, and the average weight is 179 pounds. However, the majority of Navy SEALs fall within a bell curve, with most being between 68–72 inches tall and 175–195 pounds.

The average Delta Force operator is likely to be around 5'10" and weigh between 170-190 pounds; this falls within the "average-sized man" range, with enough height and muscle mass to perform well in demanding special operations training and missions.

Women 110% belong in the services........just not in a infantry/Spec Ops combat role. They cannot carry the weapons and combat loads that males can nor do they have the strength and endurance...................it's not their fault. They quickly become liabilities in that role.

There are plenty of combat roles they can do like pilots, fly drones, mechanized units etc etc etc.
Your reservations are adequately addressed in the show though. Without dropping spoilers for the folks who haven't watched yet, these concerns are not ignored at all.
 
That’s part of it, but the new recruit meets her targets daughter and is already on the inside….after she barely spoke to her…it’s the disingenuous quality in all of his shows I dislike. Same with Yellowstone… it became hard to watch. Landman is really good through two episodes though.

I’ll watch every moment of Landman, if for no other reason than for gratitude for the 5 seconds of look on BBT’s face at the end of the convo with his daughter. That look, summed up the face of every girl-dad ever, during the teenage years (but hopefully NOT for the same convo!)
 
That’s part of it, but the new recruit meets her targets daughter and is already on the inside….after she barely spoke to her…it’s the disingenuous quality in all of his shows I dislike. Same with Yellowstone… it became hard to watch. Landman is really good through two episodes though.
I stopped watching Yellowstone when there would be huge machine gun battles on the street and nothing would happen, as in, no law enforcement ever even noticed. They blew up buildings and same thing. It was just too ridiculous for me. I did really enjoy his shows 1883 and 1923, so I'm not a Sheridan hater. Lioness was fun to watch, but in season 1, the escape at the end after she kills the dad looked like the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight was in hot pursuit. That was terrible and lazy.
 
I stopped watching Yellowstone when there would be huge machine gun battles on the street and nothing would happen, as in, no law enforcement ever even noticed. They blew up buildings and same thing. It was just too ridiculous for me. I did really enjoy his shows 1883 and 1923, so I'm not a Sheridan hater. Lioness was fun to watch, but in season 1, the escape at the end after she kills the dad looked like the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight was in hot pursuit. That was terrible and lazy.
1883 was horrifically unrealistic in too many ways to count.
 
I stopped watching Yellowstone when there would be huge machine gun battles on the street and nothing would happen, as in, no law enforcement ever even noticed. They blew up buildings and same thing. It was just too ridiculous for me. I did really enjoy his shows 1883 and 1923, so I'm not a Sheridan hater. Lioness was fun to watch, but in season 1, the escape at the end after she kills the dad looked like the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight was in hot pursuit. That was terrible and lazy.


You should watch Banshee
 
You have to turn your mind of the unrealistic stuff. I like the mindless fun. I watch it to be entertained and try not to think hard about the unrealistic parts. I know women aren’t running around doing JSOC missions (even though this should be CIA SAD), but otherwise it’s fun watching the butt kicking.

With that said I notice stuff like this. Cruz was referred to as Sgt 1st class which doesn’t exist in the USMC. That’s an Army rank. Should be Gunnery Sgt. That stuff irritates me as it’s simply laziness.

Cruz was also force recon but stationed at Bragg? Not a USMC installation. Again do some simple research or ask your military advisor.

Season 2 the new “lioness” is an Apache pilot yet she’s flying a Blackhawk. Then once recruited she jumps into a little bird and flies at 50 ft at night. I can block out the type rating issue for tv, but dang can you simply get her helicopter name correct? That’s little stuff most people won’t get, but it’s careless to me. Yet I enjoy the show.
 
Did I say it was realistic? All of his stuff is unrealistic. Some of it I can roll with and some of it I can't. Since I didn't live in 1883, the unrealistic parts are not as obvious to me.
It was probably the least of it but the part where Tim McGraw’s character took his son to shoot a deer made me crazy for literally about 20-30 reasons. I’m like tell me nobody involved in this has ever hunted without telling me that nobody involved in this has ever hunted. So absurd. And all of the stuff with the daughter…just nuts.
 
You have to turn your mind of the unrealistic stuff. I like the mindless fun. I watch it to be entertained and try not to think hard about the unrealistic parts. I know women aren’t running around doing JSOC missions (even though this should be CIA SAD), but otherwise it’s fun watching the butt kicking.

With that said I notice stuff like this. Cruz was referred to as Sgt 1st class which doesn’t exist in the USMC. That’s an Army rank. Should be Gunnery Sgt. That stuff irritates me as it’s simply laziness.

Cruz was also force recon but stationed at Bragg? Not a USMC installation. Again do some simple research or ask your military advisor.

Season 2 the new “lioness” is an Apache pilot yet she’s flying a Blackhawk. Then once recruited she jumps into a little bird and flies at 50 ft at night. I can block out the type rating issue for tv, but dang can you simply get her helicopter name correct? That’s little stuff most people won’t get, but it’s careless to me. Yet I enjoy the show.
That’s the type of thing that would drive me nuts…inaccurate for no good reason, just lazy and sloppy.
 
Let me guess. Every single woman on the show is brilliant while every man has the IQ of a cantaloupe? Also every woman is a better warrior than any of the special forces guys?
I love action movies, but I absolutely hate that every one made since 2020 is a 105 lb woman physically dominating men. Social Engineering sucks.
 
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