I don't disagree with you, but the fact of the matter is that liberal Gwen O'Loony oddly had the homeless thing under wraps, it exploded under Denson and that's where we are today.
ND - spent weekend in Athens dropping off son, downtown looks rough
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I don't disagree with you, but the fact of the matter is that liberal Gwen O'Loony oddly had the homeless thing under wraps, it exploded under Denson and that's where we are today.
You kiss your mama with that mouth?
What I said has nothing to do with UGA - it has everything to do with the inept mismanagement of Athens-Clarke County and the downtown district by the ACC Commission. You apparently are too blinded to see the difference and separate Athens from UGA.
And in regards to my comments about UGA not being a very good school until the past two decades, I'm sorry you're red and black glasses hide this institution's academic history from you but you should try and research it sometime and you'll find out that I'm not wrong.
Additionally, I'm sorry you think I'm a horrible ambassador for UGA - but I actually care about this campus and this town. I spend my time volunteering at the food bank, working with homeless ministries through my church in town, and helping run one of the nation's top public universities - just because I'm not blind to the problems doesn't make me a horrible ambassador for this school. It's people like you that only care about football and Kirby Smart that are the real trash ambassadors. This school and town is so much more than the 7 weekends a year you spend here - come spend some time in real Athens and you might learn a thing or two.
I'm out.
P.S. - My shithole redneck town has someone who cleans up downtown and the sidewalks.
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I'm not emotional, you are the one desperately trying to portray someone who has always been a liberal democrat as a republican because you want it to be so.
Keep in mind that her position of allowing mass panhandling would clearly fall on the left but you so desperately don't want that to be the case you keep saying she was kicked out of the Dem party. Just a strange take and one no one really cares about, they just want the problem addressed.
Not "democratic" leaders. It is "democRAT" leaders.
The first word weans democracy. The second means chaos and tyranny.
This thread is not about O4W. And you just criticized it ....
So again, where are you from so You can have equal time
How is saying everything is new and you would consider it to have culture criticizing it? How does that make any sense to you? I don't think I need to explain why I said that yet again but it was to prove a point that being clean doesn't take away culture. I didn't mean the "" to imply that it wasn't good.
Again, you are all over the place.
I watched it happen, I don't really have to keep anything in mind. Denson isn't a liberal and the current problem is a direct result of her coddling the homeless. Sorry it doesn't fit the narrative, but that's the problem with narratives. I care about it because I live with the results of it and lot of folks who don't know what they are talking about are on here saying stuff that's simply not true.
Since the post is now on “chat” I’ll respond. There is no hypocrisy. Republicans / Conservatives believe in limited government, but we also believe in the rule of law. Law enforcement is a basic function of government. It is the “expanded” functions of government that we have a problem with.
I knew someone very, very, well who was there in the '20's. + '30's. Made and sold moonshine, too, as a UGA student. He always said Athens had a violent underbelly that nobody talked bout. I'll take your word for today cause haven't seen it personally. Never understand why college towns don't collect garbage by 4am and firehose the sidewalks by 7am. For extra revenue, I always thought a downtown midnight magistrate's court would have provided epic entertainment and they could charge spectator admission. Law school students could get in some valuable reps, too.
Ah, the typical lib talking point and taking the extreme position. Liberals want total government involvement so conservatives must be for no government, got it. So much for being woke, go back to sleep rip van winkle.
You said she was a Republican and that’s not true. I don’t care if she’s a liberal or not but coddling the homeless is clearly a more liberal policy than Republican. Not to mention the problem still persists so you going out of the way to say she’s a Republican seems completely unnecessary and only trying to deflect from the policies of your party.
It was just a strange pivot in general and didn’t add anything to the discussion outside of trying to alleviate blame from your fellow liberals.
How do they remain in office, those who live there should put the word out and get someone to run for office who would do something about the situation.
The mayor of Athens ( Kelly Girtz) is a Democrat, just for the record. Part of the mayors job is to keep the city clean and safe. It does not sound like she is doing that.
We still got a couple more months to make final decision.....she’s a dawg at heart ....we shall see ....I agree the school as a whole is worse but some degrees such as engineering are attractive down there
You’re right. Starting to look like a Democrat run city. Noticed the same visiting my son a few weeks ago.
ACC is in the middle of a $12 million Clayton St streetscape project that includes replacing outdated sewer, stormwater and underground utilities as well as widening sidewalks, adding benches, landscaping, lighting, gathering spaces, dumpster enclosures, crosswalks etc.
ACC also just purchased Bethal Homes, the dilapidated low incoming housing on the north end of downtown, and plans to spend $40 million redeveloping into a mixed use project.
You can debate whether these are effective use of funds, but it's completely false to say the local government is standing by doing nothing. The Clayton St construction is long overdue and should mitigate a lot of the complaints mentioned in the thread. It's also the reason much of downtown looks bleaker than normal today due to the pre-dig phase which removed most of the old landscaping and added back temporary sidewalks and pavement markings.
Once school is back to normal and the virus is no longer limiting capacity, downtown will be back stronger than ever. There are a few more vacant store fronts just like the rest of the world but there's also some really great projects in the works throughout downtown.
ACC also just purchased Bethal Homes, the dilapidated low incoming housing on the north end of downtown, and plans to spend $40 million redeveloping into a mixed use project.
You can debate whether these are effective use of funds, but it's completely false to say the local government is standing by doing nothing. The Clayton St construction is long overdue and should mitigate a lot of the complaints mentioned in the thread. It's also the reason much of downtown looks bleaker than normal today due to the pre-dig phase which removed most of the old landscaping and added back temporary sidewalks and pavement markings.
Once school is back to normal and the virus is no longer limiting capacity, downtown will be back stronger than ever. There are a few more vacant store fronts just like the rest of the world but there's also some really great projects in the works throughout downtown.
Kelly is a man just FYI.
The Clayton St project is a start, but is long overdue. It’s been being talked about for a decade. I’m cautiously optimistic but if they let it fall into a state like the rest of downtown and don’t clean and maintain it the project will have been for nothing.
I have lived here off and on since 1985 and Athens is complete crap now. Homeless central and they are branching out. Downtown is a cesspool and you can smell the urine and puke all Summer. University has also become beta male central, although the women are hotter than they were a few years ago. It was creeping towards Agnes Scott territory for awhile.
There is a possible Plus side though - IF your son is an alpha he will be awash in poontang. 10 hot women for every Alpha Male. Since UGA is now King of the beta male, if he can even talk to a girl, he will slay. It would also help if he is black. All the white UGA girls want to ride the Mandingo. It is a rite of passage for them. Anyone here who has a girl at UGA, she's had a black one in her mouth and everywhere else. Just a psa.
BTW, the county commissioners who run the town are all straight-up commie. The town won't be cleaned up and they are defunding the police department by 50% over the next decade so it is not going to get better and they prefer a dirty, grimy, "real" town to a clean one. Athens is the little ole town in Georgia with a big city problem.
Exactly! We are getting exactly what the town voted for. They did not have to hide it, as a matter of fact they boasted of it, and they were all elected in on a wave in 2018. We asked for it and now we are getting it.
They have been there in all that since at least the 70's. Athens is not what it was and that's what the voters apparently wanted.
LOL. Our athletes are swimming in a sea of white girls DTF. The new Athens is not hurting football recruiting. Kirby couldn't give 2 shats.
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was down there yesterday. Placed was packed with people both wearing mask and not wearing mask. Homeless were panhandling on College Ave, right in front of the grill. Further up a Colley ave towards the parking deck a homeless guy was sleeping in the bushes. It’s what you get when you elect a liberal. Same in every liberal town I’ve ever visited.
yea it has. I believe we had 8 robberies downtown a few weekends ago. Trash is flowing up stream from Bethel Homes and pooling downtown.
Kelly Girl has no idea what he is doing, unless he is told what to do. A complete joke.
UGA IS Athens. Take the University out of Athens, and 90% of the businesses downtown close. UGA is the ONLY thing that keeps Athens from becoming Sparta Ga
Out of curiosity, when did you go to Georgia. 1985 - 1990 here. Not the true prime years because it was changing to the worse by the week, but still pretty good ones.
You’re correct - tell that to the Commission. They spend their time bad mouthing how UGA is run but can’t look at how poorly they manage their own city.
They demand UGA pay a living wage when the county is one of the worst paying employers in the area.
There are still conservatives holding on here. A vast minority but it was always a liberal town. A lot of Athens lbs are also different than they were. I am probably a fool for holding on, but my family is here and they aren't running me to freakin' Oconee. Hell, I'll just go on up to Franklin County if I have to. I do a lot of work in Oconee, just not a huge fan of what it is becoming. I like the old Oconee County country people but the growing suburbia there is a little too Stepford Wives for my taste. If I go to the country, I'm going to the real country, not jumping on a tidal wave to a rural area and messing some good country peoples' county up. However, it is still nice down around Hgh Shoals and South Oconee is still pretty nice.
As you know that is unusual. Are they doing better, I am asking because I’m interested. Also party affiliations if this is not to much to ask. I am a big believer both parties can vote in new people, both parties need to. Not saying change parties just find someone who you associate with better. All this has to be done in the primaries when few people vote.
He's not making up lies about downtown Athens. There's a lot more to Clarke County than downtown, which has gone to shat (and it won't be its first time). If he works in downtown Athens, he is describing exactly what going downtown entails. Luckily, I hang on the Prince Corridor and don't F' with downtown for entertainment and I also work in the field and from home. I am glad I don't have to wade through that cesspool to lunch every day.
There is also a lot more than downtown. Pre-Corona, there were a ton of non-downtown restaurants pening because no resident over 30 wants a thing to do with that area any more. It was not like that even 10 years ago as most of the decent restaurants were down there and even the geriatrics liked to go down there early. And maybe he makes good money down there and lives in the heart of 5 Points or some other places that are still nice. Many accounting offices (and other traditional daytime businesses) are still downtown so maybe it's just worth the tradeoff. That doesn't mean he is lying about downtown. It smells like ass down there. I'm an old dog. I used to watch them clean the streets late night from the perch where I was still partying at 5 in the morning. They used to try to keep the smell tamped down and they don't do that regularly anymore. Downtown areas rot and downtown Athens certainly is rotting out.
Athens started a scam a few years ago. Local elections are "partyless". The primary is basically the local election. Helped get more commies in so it worked out for them.
Never heard of that. That would be the way to go, that beats hell out of ballot harvesting.
Thanks for the backup. I work on North Campus for UGA. He just despises me because even though I have two degrees from UGA, work there, and have dedicated my life to helping improve Athens/UGA in the small ways I can I understand it isn’t perfect and hasn’t always been what it is today.
But I’m the shitty ambassador for actually being able to see the problems and not sugar coating them.
I’m thinking to help recruiting, we ditch the bulldog and become the Mudsharks, have a fat bottle blonde in yoga shorts lead the team on the field.
