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NY Times says leading Trump support group is reg democrats leaning voting pub

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this presidential election period. And his main support base is up the spine of the eastern part of the country through the mountains and into NY. In fact 8 of his top 10 support districts are in NY. His support west of the Miss starts tapering off dramatically.
 
this presidential election period. And his main support base is up the spine of the eastern part of the country through the mountains and into NY. In fact 8 of his top 10 support districts are in NY. His support west of the Miss starts tapering off dramatically.
Trump supportes =
Uninformed voters
Racist
People with IQ less than 100
Watchers of Faux news
 
Trump supportes =
Uninformed voters
Racist
People with IQ less than 100
Watchers of Faux news

there are no more uniformed voters than the majority of the democrat party ! oh, there is the overused race card , no surprise .
 
there are no more uniformed voters than the majority of the democrat party ! oh, there is the overused race card , no surprise .

You just used ''the race card''.
It is used most by people claiming others use it these days, ironic.
I'm reminded of a line from a Bob Dylan song.

'' Fearing Not I'd Become My Enemy, At The Moment That I Speak''.
 
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You just used ''the race card''.
It is used most by people claiming others use it these days, ironic.
I'm reminded of a line from a Bob Dylan song.

'' Fearing Not I'd Become My Enemy, At The Moment That I Speak''.
It's like cesmey street song one of these things don't belong here
 
Democrats elected Obama twice, that takes a Collective IQ of 6. Mouth breathing, sheeple.

The left can never parade out any intellectual superiority after the last 8 years of their hideous choices.
 
We survived Jr, I expect We can survive most any POTUS.
I bet if some one took a drug in the 90's and woke up 2008 and said the last thing I rember we had bill. The answer would be bush was in the White House ok so Jeb got in no jr what jr. Who is the presedent know we elected Obama no know your just pulling my leg.
 
W's motives and love of this country cannot be doubted unlike the current dumpsterfire.

I disagree.
Bush made many decisions based on political advice from Karl Rove. He is the only campaign manager to ever set in on policy meetings and advise a POTUS on important decisions based on campaign strategy. He also practiced cronyism more than any POTUS in My lifetime.
There are huge details that seem lost to history. One is how He put His long time political hatchet man in charge of FEMA before Katrina ( Joe Allbaugh, Michael Brown was an Allbaugh crony) and how that organization was decimated by political appointees to the point it was almost useless. There is a long list of such political decisions and cronyism, even when it came to managing Wars.
 
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The NYT does not say that Trump's strongest support group is "reg democrats LEANING voting pub". It says that the level of support for Trump is highest among "SELF-IDENTIFIED REPUBLICANS who nonetheless are registered as Democrats ... a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North." In other words, socially conservative white racists who left the democratic party over its support for civil rights.

The article also notes that Trump's pattern of geographic pattern of support corresponds "to a map of the tendency toward racism by region, according to measures like the prevalence of Google searches for racial slurs and racist jokes, or scores on implicit association tests."

You can cherry pick and try to spin it to look like Trump's support is coming from swing voters or NY liberals all you want. But the truth is that Trump is appealing explicitly to people who are motivated by racism and xenophobia. And, on that platform, he is currently running 17 points ahead of anyone else in the GOP primary.
 
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The NYT does not say that Trump's strongest support group is "reg democrats LEANING voting pub". It says that the level of support for Trump is highest among "SELF-IDENTIFIED REPUBLICANS who nonetheless are registered as Democrats ... a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North." In other words, socially conservative white racists who left the democratic party over its support for civil rights.

The article also notes that Trump's pattern of geographic pattern of support corresponds "to a map of the tendency toward racism by region, according to measures like the prevalence of Google searches for racial slurs and racist jokes, or scores on implicit association tests."

You can cherry pick and try to spin it to look like Trump's support is coming from swing voters or NY liberals all you want. But the truth is that Trump is appealing explicitly to people who are motivated by racism and xenophobia. And, on that platform, he is currently running 17 points ahead of anyone else in the GOP primary.
Exactly
 
We survived Jr, I expect We can survive most any POTUS.
I'm not sure we have survived Jr. Certainly not many of our troops that he sent to Iraq. He invaded the wrong country and destabilized the entire Middle East.
 
The NYT does not say that Trump's strongest support group is "reg democrats LEANING voting pub". It says that the level of support for Trump is highest among "SELF-IDENTIFIED REPUBLICANS who nonetheless are registered as Democrats ... a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North." In other words, socially conservative white racists who left the democratic party over its support for civil rights.

The article also notes that Trump's pattern of geographic pattern of support corresponds "to a map of the tendency toward racism by region, according to measures like the prevalence of Google searches for racial slurs and racist jokes, or scores on implicit association tests."

You can cherry pick and try to spin it to look like Trump's support is coming from swing voters or NY liberals all you want. But the truth is that Trump is appealing explicitly to people who are motivated by racism and xenophobia. And, on that platform, he is currently running 17 points ahead of anyone else in the GOP primary.

The middle 3rd( AKA swing voters) are the voters who will make it very hard for Him to win the general election. There has to be some appeal to rational moderates, I don't see The Donald crossing that barrier.
 
Rational Moderates are what is missing Heulen. Please pay attention. The Left went FAR left and the right went squirrel crap crazy.
When both parties agree, the shit has already gone down.
BTW, please read the second post in this thread. Note who and what was posted in the 3rd line of that post.
 
The middle 3rd( AKA swing voters) are the voters who will make it very hard for Him to win the general election. There has to be some appeal to rational moderates, I don't see The Donald crossing that barrier.

I don't think actual swing voters make up anything near 1/3 of the current electorate. But, yes, Trump would get destroyed in the general election and drag the GOP down with him. That's why he's the GOP establishment's worst nightmare.
 
The Left went FAR left and the right went squirrel crap crazy.

Well, you're right about the right-went-crazy part. But you would be hard pressed to provide evidence that the current Democratic party is farther to the left than it was in the '60s or '70s. And it is certainly to the right of, say, FDR. Hell, Obama's signature achievement is implementing a health-insurance plan that was basically the Republican alternative to what Clinton proposed back in the '90s.
 
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The NYT does not say that Trump's strongest support group is "reg democrats LEANING voting pub". It says that the level of support for Trump is highest among "SELF-IDENTIFIED REPUBLICANS who nonetheless are registered as Democrats ... a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North." In other words, socially conservative white racists who left the democratic party over its support for civil rights.

The article also notes that Trump's pattern of geographic pattern of support corresponds "to a map of the tendency toward racism by region, according to measures like the prevalence of Google searches for racial slurs and racist jokes, or scores on implicit association tests."

You can cherry pick and try to spin it to look like Trump's support is coming from swing voters or NY liberals all you want. But the truth is that Trump is appealing explicitly to people who are motivated by racism and xenophobia. And, on that platform, he is currently running 17 points ahead of anyone else in the GOP primary.
How original. I'm registering as a democrat so I can support and vote for the REPUBLICAN candidate of my choice. BWWWAAAAHAAAA! Hell there must be tens of people out there who think like that. Look it, the guy is a loose cannon and he has claimed to be a lot of things in his career including a friend of the Clinton machine. He may wind up a Sanders socialist or communist before it is over with. But he appeals to the basic democrat blue collar working class first and foremost. Most registered Pubs consider themselves superior and from a better class than Trump. They, the mainstream, are appalled at his outlandish remarks. And I can assure you he is as appalled at their self indulgence as they are of him. His core is the white, blue collar working class personified by the Archie Bunker leaning dem, many surprisingly are union members. He flies in the face of everything middle class Republicans consider themselves to be. He is a modern day George Wallace, a blue collar working class hero.
 
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I don't think actual swing voters make up anything near 1/3 of the current electorate. But, yes, Trump would get destroyed in the general election and drag the GOP down with him. That's why he's the GOP establishment's worst nightmare.

I think 30% is about right. I'm referring to those whose minds are not locked into supporting a party's nominee. and therefore vote for the candidate, regardless of party. It's easy to tell most posters on this board will not vote for any democrat, They are not in the swing category. There is a smaller group of boarders who will not vote for a republican.
 
Rational Moderates are what is missing Heulen. Please pay attention. The Left went FAR left and the right went squirrel crap crazy.
When both parties agree, the shit has already gone down.
BTW, please read the second post in this thread. Note who and what was posted in the 3rd line of that post.

I don't disagree with You for the most part, of course I do pay attention though.
If You're referring to core party supporters, there is a huge divide. Most of the noise comes from those polarized camps, which makes it SEEM as if there is no middle, but come next November, The middle will be heard loud and clear. That isn't to say They will have a candidate They'd most want to support, but Their votes will determine which one of the flawed candidates is Our next POTUS.
 
How original. I'm registering as a democrat so I can support and vote for the REPUBLICAN candidate of my choice. BWWWAAAAHAAAA! Hell there must be tens of people out there who think like that. Look it, the guy is a loose cannon and he has claimed to be a lot of things in his career including a friend of the Clinton machine. He may wind up a Sanders socialist or communist before it is over with. But he appeals to the basic democrat blue collar working class first and foremost. Most registered Pubs consider themselves superior and from a better class than Trump. They, the mainstream, are appalled at his outlandish remarks. And I can assure you he is as appalled at their self indulgence as they are of him. His core is the white, blue collar working class personified by the Archie Bunker leaning dem, many surprisingly are union members. He flies in the face of everything middle class Republicans consider themselves to be. He is a modern day George Wallace, a blue collar working class hero.

I'm sorry, but the idea that Trump's support comes mainly from Democrats thinking about crossing over just to vote for him is just wishful thinking on your part. And, as I pointed out above, that's not what it says in the NYT article you misrepresented. Do you really think these blue-collar, Archie Bunker types whose distribution maps with the "tendency toward racism by region" voted for Barrack Obama in the last two presidential elections? You think they voted for John Kerry or Al Gore over W? That demographic has been steadily moving to the GOP for a long time.
 
Rational Moderates are what is missing Heulen. Please pay attention. The Left went FAR left and the right went squirrel crap crazy.
When both parties agree, the shit has already gone down.
BTW, please read the second post in this thread. Note who and what was posted in the 3rd line of that post.
What is so interesting about the 3rd line of the 2nd post and who posted it?
 
I'm sorry, but the idea that Trump's support comes mainly from Democrats thinking about crossing over just to vote for him is just wishful thinking on your part. And, as I pointed out above, that's not what it says in the NYT article you misrepresented. Do you really think these blue-collar, Archie Bunker types whose distribution maps with the "tendency toward racism by region" voted for Barrack Obama in the last two presidential elections? You think they voted for John Kerry or Al Gore over W? That demographic has been steadily moving to the GOP for a long time.
You are basically beating around the bush man. Where are you dreaming up the "idea" that his support is coming only from democrats. His leading demo is registered democrats but his support cuts across many other demo's as well. Not all blue collar working class people are democrats but many are and the union man is for sure mostly dem. These people make up Trumps base and yes some others as well but there you go. I haven't really pondered algore, kerry, obama, fdr, woodrow wilson or honest abe, we are basically discussing Trump and his followers. Which again are a working class, blue collar base. The largest group of which, according to the NY times comes from a group of registered democrats. Which is not surprising as you would figure his support would cut deeply into the working class that is fearful of job loss, foreign competition and having to live among immigrants. Much of the middle class have the means to live away from those new arrivals and not be in direct competition for jobs with them. Take it up with the Times if you think they are wrong. They say 8 of his 10 largest districts as far as support are in NY which is heavily, heavily registered democrat. I'm sure they would appreciate the opportunity to be corrected by you.
 
I don't think actual swing voters make up anything near 1/3 of the current electorate. But, yes, Trump would get destroyed in the general election and drag the GOP down with him. That's why he's the GOP establishment's worst nightmare.

I suppose u libs consider it to be racist and xenophobic if one wants a sovereign country with actual borders. Or if someone is concerned about bringing islamic terrorists in with the Syrian refugees. It is interesting in Mexico, the executive branch can deport any foreigner without cause and without a trial whenever they see fit. So they must be racist and xenophobic or is it only whites that can be racist and xenophobic?
 
I suppose u libs consider it to be racist and xenophobic if one wants a sovereign country with actual borders. Or if someone is concerned about bringing islamic terrorists in with the Syrian refugees. It is interesting in Mexico, the executive branch can deport any foreigner without cause and without a trial whenever they see fit. So they must be racist and xenophobic or is it only whites that can be racist and xenophobic?

I think He's a phony, arrogant, Ass Loogie. I don't believe He's ''racist'', I think He feels superior to all of Us.
 
Trump supportes =
Uninformed voters
Racist
People with IQ less than 100
Watchers of Faux news
Dude, at least fake your ignorance. I'm an independent and really detests party mongers like yourself. Try something new and use your brain instead of your bias.
 
I don't think actual swing voters make up anything near 1/3 of the current electorate. But, yes, Trump would get destroyed in the general election and drag the GOP down with him. That's why he's the GOP establishment's worst nightmare.
I think He's a phony, arrogant, Ass Loogie. I don't believe He's ''racist'', I think He feels superior to all of Us.

I think u are right that Trump probably feels he is better than everyone else but most pols especially Obama do as well. He may get killed in the general but I have seen recent polls that he is running dead even with Hil. But the larger point which u don't seem to acknowledge is that there are millions upon millions of Americans who just want a sovereign country and want to stop the massive immigration and the costs and problems it brings. Explaining this away as racism is the same tactic the left has used in Europe which is having major problems. Sweden is now the rape capital of the world because Muslim men think of women as their property and they can do with them as they like.
 
Dude, at least fake your ignorance. I'm an independent and really detests party mongers like yourself. Try something new and use your brain instead of your bias.
Hey, I did use my brain for a change. Thanks for the advise. You know what, I still stand by my post. One exception could be the IQ. There are probably some very smart people who are Trumph supporters, but their brain must be clouded by the other factors on the list. I'm not a party monger. There just has to be something wrong with anyone who thinks that ass clown would be a good president.
 
Hey, I did use my brain for a change. Thanks for the advise. You know what, I still stand by my post. One exception could be the IQ. There are probably some very smart people who are Trumph supporters, but their brain must be clouded by the other factors on the list. I'm not a party monger. There just has to be something wrong with anyone who thinks that ass clown would be a good president.

There are also a lot of smart people who will vote for the corrupt, lying witch. Not sure how much your brain must be clouded to do that
 
I think u are right that Trump probably feels he is better than everyone else but most pols especially Obama do as well. He may get killed in the general but I have seen recent polls that he is running dead even with Hil. But the larger point which u don't seem to acknowledge is that there are millions upon millions of Americans who just want a sovereign country and want to stop the massive immigration and the costs and problems it brings. Explaining this away as racism is the same tactic the left has used in Europe which is having major problems. Sweden is now the rape capital of the world because Muslim men think of women as their property and they can do with them as they like.

I never explained Trump's popularity as racism, though clearly He's supported by many Who are racist.
I do think the majority of His fans are prejudiced though, which doesn't necessarily mean racist.
I think Trump Himself only cares about Himself. He is just pushing buttons, He probably thinks His followers are idiots,
 
I never explained Trump's popularity as racism, though clearly He's supported by many Who are racist.
I do think the majority of His fans are prejudiced though, which doesn't necessarily mean racist.
I think Trump Himself only cares about Himself. He is just pushing buttons, He probably thinks His followers are idiots,

Everyone is prejudiced in one way or another.
 
There are also a lot of smart people who will vote for the corrupt, lying witch. Not sure how much your brain must be clouded to do that
Some may, but Imho they will opt for Sanders instead. Polls lie, they use land lines. In that case, they couln't be polling anyone under 50
 
Some may, but Imho they will opt for Sanders instead. Polls lie, they use land lines. In that case, they couln't be polling anyone under 50


!980, Sanders winning would be the biggest upset since forever. Do u really honestly believe that terrorism is caused by Climate Change? The man didnt even have the courage to stay on the podium and he let BLM take over his outing. Not my type of guy.
 
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