I agree with both you and this tweet.Just a garden variety French artsy-fartsy, socialist shit show.
Can't believe people are so surprised.
I agree with both you and this tweet.Just a garden variety French artsy-fartsy, socialist shit show.
Can't believe people are so surprised.
When you gonna start talking about Kamala and the adultery we KNOW she was a part of instead of the claims of a porn star that put in writing that it didn’t happen but then changed her mind and came forward at the behest of your slime party that knows no bounds to the lying crooked schemes it will pull to get Trump???
“You won’t be so smug… on judgment day” - is that a direct quote from Jesus? Wow. The lack of humility and grace while claiming Christianity- impressive.When you gonna start talking about Kamala and the adultery we KNOW she was a part of instead of the claims of a porn star that put in writing that it didn’t happen but then changed her mind and came forward at the behest of your slime party that knows no bounds to the lying crooked schemes it will pull to get Trump???
A supposedly educated thoughtful person should be able to do a little better but alas, tds is an awful thing.
You won’t be so smug about Christian’s and Christianity on judgement day. I hope you find yourself before that time and repent, but I’m afraid you may be in that group that has gone so far they can never find their way back.
LOLAnd then there is this statement shared by a minister on a friend’s social media feed:
“I'm puzzled by all the kerfuffle over the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. Even if it is a reimagining of DaVinci's Last Supper, as a pastor, I see this as an affirmation that all people reflect the image of Christ, and that all are welcome at his table.
Far from an insult to Christian faith, I see this image as expressing the boundless inclusive love of God.”
Some of the least humble, companionate and loving people you will find anywhere. It makes you wonder which of Christ’s teachings they believe they are following.“You won’t be so smug… on judgment day” - is that a direct quote from Jesus? Wow. The lack of humility and grace while claiming Christianity- impressive.
Perfect time to remind the room that you're the guy who was for turning away patients during the pandemic because they didn't confirm to your wishes.Some of the least humble, companionate and loving people you will find anywhere. It makes you wonder which of Christ’s teachings they believe they are following.
You know you libs misrepresent the Bible and Christians all the time. The Bible tells us to reprove, rebuke and exhort one another to good works. I’ll let you look up what reprove and rebuke mean.“You won’t be so smug… on judgment day” - is that a direct quote from Jesus? Wow. The lack of humility and grace while claiming Christianity- impressive.
See my reply to birmur.Some of the least humble, companionate and loving people you will find anywhere. It makes you wonder which of Christ’s teachings they believe they are following.
I’ve never claimed to represent God and his judgement on the Chat or anywhere else in my life, which is relevant to this discussion.Perfect time to remind the room that you're the guy who was for turning away patients during the pandemic because they didn't confirm to your wishes.
Is humbleness, compassion, and love only a requirement for Christians or are non-believers morally bound to any noble standards?
LOL, I asked if non-believers are bound by the morals you stated or is that only for Christians.I’ve never claimed to represent God and his judgement on the Chat or anywhere else in my life, which is relevant to this discussion.
Given that the comment you referenced was over three years ago, I’ll do my best to correct you regarding what I believe I said. If you want to pull the actual quote please do.
I believe I said that anyone who chose to not take the vaccine should also be comfortable, with all other factors being the same, falling in line behind those that did get vaccinated.
The science at the time, which has since been proven in studies, was that the vaccine reduced severe illness and hospitalization. If the medical system was overwhelmed and hard choices had to be made, it’s entirely fair and companionate to prioritize those who did what they could do to stay out of the hospital over those who didn’t with the exception of course that someone had a legitimate medical reason for being unable to get vaccinated. There weren’t many of those people.
I’ll stop there as I don’t have the actual thread you are referencing to respond to, but I’m entirely comfortable with what I believe I said and it’s consistent with the other positions I’ve shared on the Chat, including the position that some of the supposed Christians on here are some of the absolute worst hypocrites as well.
I did defend my position, in detail, which you are ignoring entirely. But I’ve been down this path with you many times before, so it’s unsurprising that we find ourselves here yet again.LOL, I asked if non-believers are bound by the morals you stated or is that only for Christians.
That's a binary condition so covers everyone. I never said you represent anything because it does not matter. So, does everyone have to play by the same moral code or not?
If you're not prepared to defend a position on that matter, perhaps don't bring it up at a gotcha moment targeting Christians.
You would have to know the truth about something to know if someone is being hypocritical about something! You don’t, when it comes to Christianity. You know talking points but it requires a deeper understanding.I’ve never claimed to represent God and his judgement on the Chat or anywhere else in my life, which is relevant to this discussion.
Given that the comment you referenced was over three years ago, I’ll do my best to correct you regarding what I believe I said. If you want to pull the actual quote please do.
I believe I said that anyone who chose to not take the vaccine should also be comfortable, with all other factors being the same, falling in line behind those that did get vaccinated.
The science at the time, which has since been proven in studies, was that the vaccine reduced severe illness and hospitalization. If the medical system was overwhelmed and hard choices had to be made, it’s entirely fair and companionate to prioritize those who did what they could do to stay out of the hospital over those who didn’t with the exception of course that someone had a legitimate medical reason for being unable to get vaccinated. There weren’t many of those people.
I’ll stop there as I don’t have the actual thread you are referencing to respond to, but I’m entirely comfortable with what I believe I said and it’s consistent with the other positions I’ve shared on the Chat, including the position that some of the supposed Christians on here are some of the absolute worst hypocrites as well.
Gid us not inclusive.And then there is this statement shared by a minister on a friend’s social media feed:
“I'm puzzled by all the kerfuffle over the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. Even if it is a reimagining of DaVinci's Last Supper, as a pastor, I see this as an affirmation that all people reflect the image of Christ, and that all are welcome at his table.
Far from an insult to Christian faith, I see this image as expressing the boundless inclusive love of God.”
The Bible covers many topics, including the perils of sitting in judgement of others.You would have to know the truth about something to know if someone is being hypocritical about something! You don’t, when it comes to Christianity. You know talking points but it requires a deeper understanding.
You do have plenty of experience being a hypocrite on political matters though. I will give you that.
Yes it does. But again you misunderstand the discussion of judging others because it is all about talking points to you and a way to avoid the uncomfortable truth that you support things that are an abomination to God.The Bible covers many topics, including the perils of sitting in judgement of others.
I’m not trying to guilt you or anyone else into anything.Yes it does. But again you misunderstand the discussion of judging others because it is all about talking points to you and a way to avoid the uncomfortable truth that you support things that are an abomination to God.
How can we be commanded to reprove and rebuke sin if we can’t make a judgement about sin?
I am not judging you. There is 1 judge. I am simply saying that those that ignore, despise, and reject Gods word are in danger of his judgement.
No matter how much you spin will you cannot make Gods word support many things that your party supports.
I would be in the wrong if I didn’t tell you that you are in danger of the judgement. That is the most hateful anti Christian thing a person can do is to turn a blind eye and allow people to go unwarned.
The Bible says, you can know the truth.
The Bible says Gods word is truth.
The Bible says We will be judged by those words.
The Bible says few will enter in because it’s a hard and narrow way but those that do will have joy everlasting.
You should seek that truth rather than use things out of context to try and guilt those that disagree with you into giving you a free pass to spread error.
Do you believe the are principles and truths that frame our form of government?I’m not trying to guilt you or anyone else into anything.
Let me see if I can simplify the discussion. The US is not a theocracy. As it pertains to how we govern the country, I don’t care what the Bible says and what it justifies or condemns. I support your right to think differently about this topic and vote accordingly. I’ll do the same.
Three cheers for our representative republic.
I agree. You do not care what the Bible says. That’s why I feel good about warning you. I won’t be responsible for your eternal destination. I have suggested you change.I’m not trying to guilt you or anyone else into anything.
Let me see if I can simplify the discussion. The US is not a theocracy. As it pertains to how we govern the country, I don’t care what the Bible says and what it justifies or condemns. I support your right to think differently about this topic and vote accordingly. I’ll do the same.
Three cheers for our representative republic.
When you gonna start talking about Kamala and the adultery we KNOW she was a part of instead of the claims of a porn star that put in writing that it didn’t happen but then changed her mind and came forward at the behest of your slime party that knows no bounds to the lying crooked schemes it will pull to get Trump???
A supposedly educated thoughtful person should be able to do a little better but alas, tds is an awful thing.
You won’t be so smug about Christian’s and Christianity on judgement day. I hope you find yourself before that time and repent, but I’m afraid you may be in that group that has gone so far they can never find their way back.
So you are ok with a serial slut who lived with a married man, gave blow jobs to married men to get ahead, is a proud communist, defund the police liberal?So you're okay with a convicted felon who cheated on two wives and was found liable of sexual assault? Never mind that Trump is a pedophile who raped a 13 year old as stated in the Epstein lawsuit.
Yes, and I think I know where you are going with this but I’ll wait for the followup question.Do you believe the are principles and truths that frame our form of government?
Do you believe they should change?Yes, and I think I know where you are going with this but I’ll wait for the followup question.
It would be helpful to understand what specifically you are referencing so I can offer an opinion about changing it or not.Do you believe they should change?
Do you believe in equity as Kamala and some on the left are calling for?
When you are on the same side of an argument as Ayatollah Khamenei, perhaps it's time to at least reconsider your position.
As a recovering progressive or as just someone desensitized by the past decade of Western culture, I'm not all appalled as some over the bisexual threesome skit. But the open mockery of Christianity is just getting old. No one's pretending to hide it anymore.
The goal has to be the decay of Western society, right?
Maybe it should make you feel bad that he is smarter and wiser than you, at least in this case.When you are on the same side of an argument as Ayatollah Khamenei, perhaps it's time to at least reconsider your position.
who knows whats true anymore but apparently they initially admitted it was based on the Last Supper then walked it back after expected backlashI think my tone has been disrespectful. My apologies for that.
I don’t know how old you are, so you may or may not remember the satanic panic in the 80’s. Look it up if you aren’t familiar. When people look hard enough, they can always find what they are looking for.
Having said that, I understand the fact that conservatives were not comfortable with the opening ceremonies in general. It was very French and no question diversity was very prominently featured.
Zona, you always bring the goods. Would you mind sharing the source? I’ve spent ten minutes trying to find the same information and so far haven’t been able to.
I'm sure I've been on the same side of various issues as Hitler, Stalin, Jeffrey Dahmer, and President Xi. lolol I'm sure we all haveWhen you are on the same side of an argument as Ayatollah Khamenei, perhaps it's time to at least reconsider your position.
There has been a push in a lot of areas to upend the norms and principles that we have operated by for many years.It would be helpful to understand what specifically you are referencing so I can offer an opinion about changing it or not.
It’s an interesting discussion to have and I don’t have a lot of time but will take a pass at is.There has been a push in a lot of areas to upend the norms and principles that we have operated by for many years.
There are many areas.
Marriage is being devalued.
Gender ideology overriding the science of distinct sexes( male/female).
Parental rights.
Meritocracy is being pushed out by DEI and other intersectional views.
The incentive to work hard and earn your way is being lost in the younger generation because of this. Entitlement is flourishing.
You did not answer my question about equity.
my take on gender dysmorphia is it should first and foremost be treated as a mental health condition. therapy should be the first 10 lines of attack and then maybe transitioning medications and lastly permanent surgeries...at least for minors above the age of 12 or so. adults can cut and alter whatever they want. its their life and they understand the consequencesIt’s an interesting discussion to have and I don’t have a lot of time but will take a pass at is.
You mention upending norms and principles. Allowing women to vote was upending norms and principles in a far more radical way than anything we are seeing now and it was bitterly opposed by conservatives who felt it would destroy the country.
Ending segregation and allowing interracial marriage were both upending norms and principles, at least in a large swath of the country.
Accepting basic gay rights was absolutely upending norms and principles.
Hell, the Emancipation Proclamation was an extreme example of ending norms and principles and was opposed by much of the north during the war.
Broadly speaking, I believe consenting adults should have extremely wide latitude to pursue happiness in whatever form they chose.
Regarding DEI and equity, I don’t believe we passed some magical point in time we were successful in ending the impacts of bias, racism and sexism in our society or workplaces. I find some of the efforts to address these things misguided and poorly executed, but I don’t have a big issue with them conceptually. I fully understand why others disagree.
I disagree about the current young generation. My anecdotal experience is that they work hard, they care about the world they live in and want to have a positive impact.
I see you picked things that I think everyone agrees with to make your statement. Those are all great moves and actually align with the constitution.It’s an interesting discussion to have and I don’t have a lot of time but will take a pass at is.
You mention upending norms and principles. Allowing women to vote was upending norms and principles in a far more radical way than anything we are seeing now and it was bitterly opposed by conservatives who felt it would destroy the country.
Ending segregation and allowing interracial marriage were both upending norms and principles, at least in a large swath of the country.
Accepting basic gay rights was absolutely upending norms and principles.
Hell, the Emancipation Proclamation was an extreme example of ending norms and principles and was opposed by much of the north during the war.
Broadly speaking, I believe consenting adults should have extremely wide latitude to pursue happiness in whatever form they chose.
Regarding DEI and equity, I don’t believe we passed some magical point in time we were successful in ending the impacts of bias, racism and sexism in our society or workplaces. I find some of the efforts to address these things misguided and poorly executed, but I don’t have a big issue with them conceptually. I fully understand why others disagree.
I disagree about the current young generation. My anecdotal experience is that they work hard, they care about the world they live in and want to have a positive impact.
you cant have equity of outcome without throttling some so others can achieve the same outcomes they havent earned. that's now fair to eitherI see you picked things that I think everyone agrees with to make your statement. Those are all great moves and actually align with the constitution.
I specifically said equity. The way some on the left are talking about equity goes against the constitution and is not possible to achieve. It is a futile effort that will waste tax payer dollars.
Are you against efforts to institute equity?
Equity as they espouse is basically communism.
I was definitely trying to make a point by pulling examples that were highly controversial at the time but now seem obvious.I see you picked things that I think everyone agrees with to make your statement. Those are all great moves and actually align with the constitution.
I specifically said equity. The way some on the left are talking about equity goes against the constitution and is not possible to achieve. It is a futile effort that will waste tax payer dollars.
Are you against efforts to institute equity?
Equity as they espouse is basically communism.
one of the most prominent recently are ivy league schools discriminating against Asians in favor or black and brown applicantsI was definitely trying to make a point by pulling examples that were highly controversial at the time but now seem obvious.
Equity hasn't been a big part of my political vocabulary up to this point. Can you provide a few examples?