Pretty good synopsis of the deep state corruption

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

First sentence is spot on. Do you believe trump is as Corrupt as his predecessors?

Not at all because he has been a private citizen that has to play by the rules those in power decide to enforce. I don't think he is a saint by any means but the man has been audited virtually every year.

Power corrupts and although Trump has been a powerful figure, he's never been able to exercise his power as an unelected bureaucrat acting with immunity from civil or criminal consequences.

IOWs as a private citizen, the only power Trump had over me was either power O voluntarily relinquished or power he bought from government officials. I have seen little evidence that he is currently abusing his power. You may not like his style or his policies but I have not seen evidence that he is spying on journalist or allowing his DOJ to,try to,prosecute them or their families.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Mueller has no power to protect Clinton. You guys are forgetting, that Trump and his political appointees run the DOJ. No Dem or Mueller could protect Clinton or any other Dem from being investigate by the DOJ for illegal activity unless there's no cause for such an investigation. What don't you guys understand about that?

Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, Strzok, Page and several "yet to be named" co-conspirators had regular meetings in McCabe's office to plan how Hillary Clinton would be interviewed so as not to anger her because they thought she would surely be the next president.Obama knew all about it. Here is a txt from Lisa Page to Strzok on September 16, 2016:

"Potus wants to know everything we're doing," This is in regard to the handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation.

Now think about it. They "soft pedaled" an FBI investigation for the purpose of keeping Clinton from being charged which would certainly cost her the election. So....who is meddling in the US election? That is criminal activity of a very high order.

Here is a Strzok text message from August 2016 which clearly shows "at least" that:

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I'm afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40."

That "insurance policy", planned inside the office of the Assistant Director is an additional FELONY. It is much more than that. Any plan to combat an incoming administration in any way is very heavy criminal activity when planned and carried out using the offices of the FBI.
In case you have doubt, here are a couple more texts between Page and Strzok after Trump won and they were desperate:

Page: "And maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace."
Strzok: " I can protect our country at many levels, not sure if that helps"

11:04 PM - Dec 12, 2017

Strzok meant to combat the incoming administration from within the FBI. The FBI cannot be an arm of the democrat party. That is criminal conspiracy regardless of how much he was convinced that his liberal cause was just.

This is only one of many examples of how the government was politically weaponized against opposition during the Obama administration. I got more if you need it.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

You again misstate my position. I would have been 100% for the tax cut had it included (or been followed by) spending cuts. Everything should be on the table for that. Instead we reduced revenue and increased spending.

We have a $1T deficit and the things you mentioned are about $100-200B. It’d be great if we could say “cut foreign aid!!” and balance the budget but the math doesn’t work.

As usual, you are incorrect in you assumption. Tax revenue has not decreased since the tax cut...it has risen. In fact, it rises every time taxes are cut.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepa...uts-increase-government-revenue/#555148fa4bf2

I do agree that spending cuts along with the tax cut would have been better.

 

[doerunn]

that is a liberal statement. "we decreased revenue"... show your proof please. The tax cuts have generated additional revenue due to increased economic spending. Further, one month recently, if I'm not mistaken, the govt generated a record surplus for the period. Hmmm,,, the liberal cry that we have to "pay for tax cuts" sure shows up a lot when you talk. Check it out. Let me know the facts,,, has revenue decreased because of the tax cuts?

Spending is another and in my mind a separate issue. They are all out of control drunken sailors when it comes to spending. They all want to buy someone's vote to stay in power. Liberals especially and I would equate the Pub party as liberal as the dim party when it comes to spending. THEY ALL NEED TO GO> and shonuff and trim and others of their ilk need to move to the socialist paradise of their choice and leave the rest of us to enjoy the fruits of capitalism.

I believe, since the tax cuts, collected record taxes! please explain and I'll hang up and listen. lol

 

[dawgfood0612]

I’m a fan of cutting the budget, period. But it requires an acknowledgement that all the money is in SS, MC, and DoD. Can’t balance the budget without cutting one or all of those.

I consider myself a social conservative in that I believe in less government intervention into people’s lives. If you mean do I believe in the Mike Pence theocratic view of social issues, I do not. His views are more closely aligned with the Mullahs in Iran than with conservative orthodoxy (again, let’s not confuse Republican dogma with conservativism). Conservatism means strong defense, less spending, lower taxes,
less government, free trade, and a respect of state sovereignty. Not many of those folks left in DC

Donasonville, what you said above was what the Republican Party stood for many years ago when it was the party of Reagan and not the yahoos that control it now. Twenty five years ago, the Pubs were the party of individuals having their own choices, but now, social conservatives are determined to tell everyone else how to live their lives, and if you don't live like we want you to, we will get the government involved to pass laws to make you do so. From telling folks who they can and can't marry, what you can do on Sundays, how you can spend your own hard earned money, social conservatives obviously know how I should live my life much better than I do.

Can you imagine what Reagan would think regarding the Russian influence in the Trump Adm.

When the party returns to the principals you laid out above, I will return, but until so, I will probably vote Libertarian as the Dems keep moving farther and farther to the left.

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

Donasonville, what you said above was what the Republican Party stood for many years ago when it was the party of Reagan and not the yahoos that control it now. Twenty five years ago, the Pubs were the party of individuals having their own choices, but now, social conservatives are determined to tell everyone else how to live their lives, and if you don't live like we want you to, we will get the government involved to pass laws to make you do so. From telling folks who they can and can't marry, what you can do on Sundays, how you can spend your own hard earned money, social conservatives obviously know how I should live my life much better than I do.
When the party returns to the principals you laid out above, I will return, but until so, I will probably vote Libertarian as the Dems keep moving farther and farther to the left.

I'm as libertarian as they come BUT, my tolerance for someone's deviant behavior ENDS when they expect me to participate in the cost of their conduct. Iows, I don't want to be in the same health insurance pool as a sedentary chain smoker. I don't care if you are of able mind and body and refuse to work, I just don't want to pay for your choices.

So, if you want to screw a goat and the goat is willing, I view it as none of my business. But, if you decide that I'm on the hook financially if you catch goat aids, then you have made your sex life MY business.

Dems have made an industry out of subsidizing anti-social behavior and now act as if the only answer is more subsidies. While I like Libertarian philosophies, until they learn to take a pragmatic approach to campaigning and governing, they will have no political impact unless they pull a Ron and Rand Paul and try to influence from within a party.

The problems with today's pub party has very little to do with social conservatism. Heck, they haven't won a meaningful social battle in decades. The problem with today's pubs and the reason Trump was electable is because people like me had nowhere else to turn. The latest budget proves beyond a doubt that Pubs aren't going to reign in spending at all and actively fought Trump on outrageous spending.

 

[benchwarmerdawg]

You're wasting your time. Benchwarmer is all on Trumper and there's no way you can convince him that he's anything other than the second coming. Kind of like how some on the right accused those on the left of being fanatical with their blind support of Obama. Trump supporters are even worse. Again I point to the fact that Obama had 6 years of congressional investigation and so far a year and half of Trump DOJ snooping and there's been no announcement of wrongdoing. Trumps been in office for year and a half and his own DOJ, with his AG, Deputy AG, Head of FBI and Deputy Head of FBI are investigating him of wrong doing as only Trump himself could possibly describe as "the greatest scandal in the history of our country since Watergate".

you are delusional as usual.. I have clearly and for the record on more than one occasion stated that Trump was not in my top 4 during the primaries. However, I have also stated that even the lowest of the 12 or so pubs that ran were a far better choice than killary. She is a traitor, a liar, a criminal and a scum bucket. She hates America just like you, so I can see how you would love her. Further, Trump is a breath of fresh air after your "I'm going to fundamentally destroy America" boy odumbo. It is refreshing to see an American politician stand up for America instead of bowing down and apologizing to others. Although, since you leftist are all about bending over and taking it up the rear, I can see how you would love him bowing down. He is doing great things to turn us around for the disaster that was obummer. I want to see what he can do if the dims would grow up, be rational, and let the man work. You idiots are being helped every day but you are begging and illegally trying to overthrow the election and go back to the disaster that was the dims being in control... give it a break moron.



Obama investigated for 6 yrs.,,,,, HA HA HA that may be the lie of lies. LIAR> now go back to the basement with trim or better yet,,, pack up and leave this country and stop sponging off the rest of us. UMMMMMM Sessions recused himself and is not investigating the made up collusion story... The deputy ag was an Obamaite, the former head of the FBI was an obamaite who was all in trying to protect the criminal killary, the deputy head of the FBI was an obamaite that even the deputy ag told trump to fire for illegal activities.. His wife ran for office as a dim and took 500k from the guy in VA, killarys buddy... Lying comey leaked at the order of clapper,,,,, a fellow that voted for a communist party pol. so they could get the scum muller appointed as special council to investigate a killary bought and paid for from a brit with Russian ties. ITS all a scam by the dims and obumo to try and maintain power.

IF you win, if they succeed in circumventing the election, this country is done. You and those like you will be responsible. I hope you have to work in a sewer as your forced labor to pay for alllllll your stupid dim policies.

 

[benchwarmerdawg]

• FY 2019 (est.) - $3.42 trillion

• FY 2018 (est.) - $3.34 trillion

• FY 2017 - $3.32 trillion.

• FY 2016 - $3.27 trillion.

Tax revenues have continued to increase. Spending and waste is the issue. I would also tell you the stupid morons in congress could tax every thing at 100% and it wouldn't be enough.. . Look at the previous doofus and how he gave us more deficit than all the other presidents combined all while raising taxes.

 

[benchwarmerdawg]

• FY 2019 (est.) - $3.42 trillion

• FY 2018 (est.) - $3.34 trillion

• FY 2017 - $3.32 trillion.

• FY 2016 - $3.27 trillion.

Tax revenues have continued to increase. Spending and waste is the issue. I would also tell you the stupid morons in congress could tax every thing at 100% and it wouldn't be enough.. . Look at the previous doofus and how he gave us more deficit than all the other presidents combined all while raising taxes, putting more people out of a job, putting record people on food stamps, and destroying our economy, while bowing down to every tom dick and harry in the world... He should have been jailed the first time he bowed to someone.. Talk about collusion.

 

[hotdawg92]

I’m a fan of cutting the budget, period. But it requires an acknowledgement that all the money is in SS, MC, and DoD. Can’t balance the budget without cutting one or all of those.

I consider myself a social conservative in that I believe in less government intervention into people’s lives. If you mean do I believe in the Mike Pence theocratic view of social issues, I do not. His views are more closely aligned with the Mullahs in Iran than with conservative orthodoxy (again, let’s not confuse Republican dogma with conservativism). Conservatism means strong defense, less spending, lower taxes,
less government, free trade, and a respect of state sovereignty. Not many of those folks left in DC

And therefore, there will never be a significant reduction in the budget because neither party is willing to fall on the sword of MC or SS. At least the republicans are trying the strategy of growing us out the deficit because tax and spend under Obama more than doubled it in 8 years and FOR WHAT? Free cell phones and a pile of cash to Iran. Yep. He was a genius!

 

[deadduckdawg]

And therefore, there will never be a significant reduction in the budget because neither party is willing to fall on the sword of MC or SS. At least the republicans are trying the strategy of growing us out the deficit because tax and spend under Obama more than doubled it in 8 years and FOR WHAT? Free cell phones and a pile of cash to Iran. Yep. He was a genius!

Liberals use MC to abbreviate Medicare, cleverly disguising MEDICAID, which our communist previous president ratcheted up to 69 MILLION people under the POS camouflaged welfare program Obamacare, according to NPR.

In 2016, when Obama really started sticking it up our collective ass, Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and Obamacare subsidies (welfare), accounted for 26% of the federal budget. Over 40% of that amount goes to the latter three programs. The numbers are worse now. 9% of the federal budget goes to people facing hardship and does not include health insurance subsidies or SS.

Then you have Earned Income Tax Credit, Child Tax Credit, and Lord don’t forget forking SNAP, the Cheetos For The Lazy Program. And the federal budget numbers DO NOT include the amounts taxpayers pay through the states.

So, it’s not all SS and “MC.” Unemployment is at historic lows in many cases. Time to throw some bloodsuckers out of bed, get a job, get off the fed and state budgets, lower the deficit.

 

[dirtytoeddawg]

More recently noticed quote from Strzok in his texts with Page:

Strzok: 'now we’ve switched from the Patriot Act to a wire carrying current.'
April 30, 2016.

Look at that date. The FBI continuously has back tracked as to when thier surveillance began. This date is well before anything they’ve claimed and well before any official investigation.

What else is significant with this date & comment?

The comment itself indicates theyhad surveillance before this date under the Patriot Act, which would indicate queries & unmasking of NSA data base.

The reason they were forced to switch thier surveillance from using the NSA data base queries to “wire carrying current” is because Admiral Mike Rogers/NSA Director noticed unusual abuse of the 702 search formats/queries leading into the 2016 primaries & he shut it down.

This is also around the same time Trump came out saying he was being wire tapped, which was also one day he had an unannounced meeting with Admiral Mike Rogers who came to Trump on his own.

What anyone who’s followed this closely realizes and what is about to be uncovered in the ongoing DOJ investigations is that the Trump campaign was under illegal surveillance in early 2016.

There was a concerted effort by our and several of the five eyes intelligence agencies to surveill and further create evidence with the use of “informants” instigating meetings & connections. Halper isn’t the only one who facilitated these meetings. It’s now becoming very evident that Joseph Mifsud was/is British intel rather than FSB as Brennan told us.

Every bit of the Papadopoulos scenario was a set up. Even Downer the Australian diplomat involved has downplayed the FBI claims about what he & Papadopoulos discussed.

This is going to ugly and get ugly quickly.

We went from illegal surveillance for political purposes to an ongoing attempted coup.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

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We went from illegal surveillance for political purposes to an ongoing attempted coup.

That is correct sir....from 20 years in prison to life without prole.....should be the death penalty because of the national security ramifications.
Obama's ongoing attempts to run a shadow government should also be smashed with federal law enforcement raids and confiscation of all accompanying computers.