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Jersey Mikes was recently sold to Blackstone. Won’t be long till that becomes a subpar product.
8 bilsky, Congrats to the dude who started that biz. These funds give guys like that another option besides the wringer of going public to cash in on their life’s work.

Definitely possible quality suffers as Bx looks to take it more global. That said I’m sure they will recognize that brand value has a lot to do with the quality of the meats JM uses. I wouldn’t expect them to cheap it on that.

if they do it opens the door for another great company to take market share, and we can grab sandwiches there. The invisible hand of capitalism works. Whether this specific deal work or not these funds provide so much liquidity to the market, it really does enhance the sink or swim dynamic of capitalism.

Would be a shame if a Jersey Italian or BLT add avocado takes a dive quality wise. Shit is good.
 
North Florida is catching up. Built in 09 paid $1100 per year. 2 years ago was up to $1500. This year over $6k. Neighbors see some else do it and think why should I pay out of pocket when insurance will cover it? The worst part, most don’t need a new roof. I was the 3rd house in the neighborhood and most are less than 9 years old. We have not had hurricane damage.
And let’s take homeowners out. Auto accident. Attorneys are sending folks to doctors they’ve never been to. 4 trips to the chiropractor ought to drive up costs and keep the settlement talks to a 5th, 6th round. Disgusting.

The entire state of Florida is taking it on the chin homeowners wise. And insurers are pulling out. No profit to be made. Cali’s in about the same predicament. Sure, these large insurers aren’t saints and have reserves, but the legal abuse has to be curbed. Folks are working on it but so far behind the contributory assets the legal community maintains.

Like PE, there are good actors but a s-load of bad actors.
 
All they would have to do is pass legislation that once a roof hits 10 years old, make it actual-cash-value (depreciated) and the premiums would be cut in half, literally. If somebody has a 13 year old roof and files a claim and there is legit damage, the insurance carrier will pay half and the client will pay half. But the attorneys in this state won't let that happen because they're making too much money as-is.
I know and most of the sheep don’t understand the economics enough to vote for it.
 
Any former "Morgan Keegan" current "Raymond James" types here?
 
I think Josh Brooks should flip the script and stage a hostile takeover of Blackstone. Then make them play football.
 
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PE is horrible - it never works out for anyone but the PE group.
Most people don't understand how PE works - when a PE firm buys a company for $100 million - they don't plop down all that cash of their money, they borrow $90 million against the company they bought and put down the bare minimum say $10 milllion. Then over time they start siphoning money out (management fees, etc) all the time leaving the company to pay the debt service. Only to turn around and sell it to another PE group in 3-5 years to start the cycle all over again. Said company is left with no resources and a debt service that is through the roof.
interesting, the mob does the same thing
 
The construction of the contract determines the inevitability of the outcome
 

Remembered this thread from a few months back. Saw this article and wanted to throw it in here for those of you ITT that don’t think PE consists of a bunch of soulless ghouls & bad actors.
 

Remembered this thread from a few months back. Saw this article and wanted to throw it in here for those of you ITT that don’t think PE consists of a bunch of soulless ghouls & bad actors.

I guess that settles it then.
 
Also, activist investors have basically ruined Southwest Airlines in less than six months. Bags will NOT fly free moving forward unless you have their highest tier of status. In addition to that, an airline that NEVER had a layoff in its entire history laid off 15% of its staff last month in the name of, you guessed it - margins.
 
On CNBC this morning they had a segment about PE starting to get involved with Big time football programs. As part of that they put valuations on teams. UGA was 9th with around a $800 million valuation. Bama was only SEC team above. Dont see UGA being involved with PE but never know
if so - final nail.
 
It’s always fun to read about some beloved brand (like Red Lobster recently) going bankrupt and then the story hides in paragraph 8 that actually what happened is some PE firm bought the brand, sold the land to itself, charged the brand rent, and that’s why it no longer could stay afloat whilst the PE guys made off like bandits.

Looking forward to them doing that in college football
Cabelas, which I used to love and buy a ton of stuff from was forced into a merger with Bass Pro. I miss that phone book sized catalog. I used to get the hard bound deluxe catalog because I bought so much stuff. When we went elk hunting, between the four of us, I’d estimate $10k per man from Cabelas. Their stores say Cabelas, but it isn’t true.

You’ll rue the day when UGA will be forced to merge with Clemson or tech.
 
Nope. I am a founder of my own company. And tapping PE firms has been a big part of our growth. In my experience very talented and straight shooting folks. But hey zaxby’s chicken tenders aren’t as good so the entire industry is ghouls. I bet the folks who sold out their stakes in Zaxby’s aren’t complaining.
it’s nice that they agreed to just give you money with no strings attached.
 
it’s nice that they agreed to just give you money with no strings attached.
The strings attached are negotiated, and generally as an owner / founder, you have to decide whether you want to "cash out", which generally means selling 51% or more of the Company (i.e. cede control, and you are now effectively an employee, but presumably a wealthy one), or put up a non-controlling stake, retaining control but utilizing their capital for growth at a cost.....also tapping into their relationships and access to other capital. In either case, the decisions made are made by the existing owners or sellers of the Company. I would argue a company that is privately capitalized with an element of PE money has much more flexibility than a public company, beholden to Wall Street every quarter.

The "predatory" side of PE is a very small part of it.
 
Also, activist investors have basically ruined Southwest Airlines in less than six months. Bags will NOT fly free moving forward unless you have their highest tier of status. In addition to that, an airline that NEVER had a layoff in its entire history laid off 15% of its staff last month in the name of, you guessed it - margins.
You do realize LUV is a for profit business, correct?
 
You do realize LUV is a for profit business, correct?

Yes I do - but considering they publicly stated that they aren’t going away from the model and now they are can you really trust anything else they say as a company? Their own research showed it would cost more in lost fares and loyalty if they disposed of the free bag policy but they’re doing it anyways.

What their PE investors are doing is “How to Ruin a Successful Business 101” - drive away the loyal customer base in exchange for short term profit margins.
 
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