Regional perspective

[OriginalGatorHator]

Lets petition Georgia to be able to go back to that rule, if not we have to wait 2 more years before Kemp boots Oshkosh B'gosh. And boot him he's going to do by a similar margin he did to Abrams.........

Kemp would pick up the american crown laying in the gutter if he did this.

He is a neo con so unfortunately he wont

 

[JungleRecon]

No Im telling you that military, defense contractors, and the intel community do. Half of my neighborhood is literally military or very recently retired and working in the defense indust

I have been in the defense industry for the past 20 years, The only thing that keeps us from cranking out weapons systems for all these foreign wars is the mandatory DEI training we have to take every week! Yes. it is very clear who the defense industry wants there employees voting for, so yes, it makes sense that Mclean VA votes for DEMs. Hell, the company I work for sponsored Olympic athletes this year and guess what they made clear in the press briefing, "all our sponsored athletes are from the LBTG+ community"
And another ugly truth no one wants to talk about, this new group of military men and women aren't your parents soldiers, the military is quickly becoming a welfare program due to there disability programs.

 

[ClydeDawg]

I actually am a liberal that supports the electoral college.

Whats the most important issue to you as a self proclaimed liberal.

I consider myself a moderate and immigration is probably my deal breaker.

 

[brimur]

I know a lot of military who are not near DC who match up with what you are seeing. I would be amazed if it is not 85% or more democrat at and around DC. So where you are from plays a large part. Different regions have different priorities and have different value systems typically.
How did you vote when you were in North GA?

Good point. Well I still mostly voted Democrat but I was a much more conservative Democrat. I voted for Zell Miller and Max Cleland but not Roy Barnes.

 

[ToddBburn]

When

Good point. Well I still mostly voted Democrat but I was a much more conservative Democrat. I voted for Zell Miller and Max Cleland but not Roy Barnes.

When did you move from Habersham?

 

[brimur]

When

When did you move from Habersham?

2004

 

[brimur]

Whats the most important issue to you as a self proclaimed liberal.

I consider myself a moderate and immigration is probably my deal breaker.

I grew up dirt poor and care about making sure everybody has the opportunities I had because I had food stamps, and free and reduced lunch, and public school, and free college. I don’t mind paying literally hundreds of thousands in taxes annually.

 

[MaitlandFloridaDawg]

Good point. Well I still mostly voted Democrat but I was a much more conservative Democrat. I voted for Zell Miller and Max Cleland but not Roy Barnes.

People forget, Georgia didn’t elect a Republican governor (since Reconstruction) until 2002. Barnes was the last Democratic governor.

 

[ClydeDawg]

I grew up dirt poor and care about making sure everybody has the opportunities I had because I had food stamps, and free and reduced lunch, and public school, and free college. I don’t mind paying literally hundreds of thousands in taxes annually.

Sounds like you worked your ass off, awesome success story. Sounds a lot like J D Vance's?

 

[ugateke24]

The military-industrial complex is not “the military” but thanks for the red herring.

Yeah I mean the higher up’s and retirees have a vested interest the the military industrial complex.

I have found out a lot about the mind of a liberal man after my girlfriend let me know she knew this guy from high school who was a football player/ pothead in high school. She had known him since kindergarten. Everyone who went to college or became functional after college knows he’s crazy so she doesn’t like to say she’s friends with him.

He exposés socialism and Karl Marx on his Facebook page and is a self proclaimed expert after reading book on the early childhood of Marx.

He thinks life wasn’t fair to him. He Blames others because his sister dipped and he “took care of his dad” for a few years with cancer . Now he still smokes pot to this day but then wonders why he does t have a “family”. He blames others for that too. Now he has medical issues and be just as wants others to be responsible

Basically the guy is sad, he’s hurt and wants to pseudo intellectual talk down to everyone. I’m 43 and my girlfriend and I were kids discussing where is his money going: I believe he makes like 45000 or so which wasn’t bad into bidenomics. So he still lives with his father, drives and older truck so his pot habit and his bad dating decisions are the only thing we could determine his money went toward.

So usually what I’ve found with men who vote dem is they are government employees, where brought up brainwashed and think Lincoln was a democrats or victims of some way the perceive life wasn’t fair and the reason their life sucks is life isn’t fair and want people to take care of people like them.

My grandfather once voted dem but the den party isn’t the den party that southern men used to vote for.

 

[cherrydawg]

I grew up dirt poor and care about making sure everybody has the opportunities I had because I had food stamps, and free and reduced lunch, and public school, and free college. I don’t mind paying literally hundreds of thousands in taxes annually.

Good work getting to where you can pay 100's of thousand in taxes. I grew up dirt poor in NGA. Would not have been able to afford going to college if I had not gotten an athletic scholarship to do so. I had to work as well because my folks had no money to give me. Neither of them attended college and both came from dirt poor families. However, it seems the difference between me and you is that my parents taught me that govt aid is only good in the short term. Dems, try to keep folks on govt aid as a vote buying tool. Remember, obuma stopped the work for welfare check law. If someone can work they should be more than happy to work for help instead of staying home and waiting on the govt check. The Bible says that if a man "won't" work, he shouldn't eat. The Bible also says it is our duty to help the helpless. If they can't work because of disability etc. pubs do not have a problem with govt assistance. In fact, there are many studies that show conservatives are much more charitable than democrats. Democrats always want to take other peoples money to help others. I guess its how they soothe their conscience. Further, govt is always the most inefficient method of helping others. Fraud, waste, too many bureaucrats, etc. We also do not need to be paying for ILLEGAL immigrants. That is just another vote buying scam by democrats. It has nothing to do with chairity. The rush to make them citizens and get them voting shows the real reason.

2. Florida, where I live now has a fantastic republican governor. Here every child is fed breakfast and lunch at school. The argument that dims are more empathetic is not true. If they were, they would bee the most giving group. Check bidens charitable contributions. PAULTRY as a percentage of income especially if you factor in the money he and his family took from foreigners.

This is not to say that some dems, maybe you, don't give to good causes at a rate equal to or even greater than pubs. But as a whole, pubs are the most giving. You can look it up.

 

[brimur]

Yeah I mean the higher up’s and retirees have a vested interest the the military industrial complex.

I have found out a lot about the mind of a liberal man after my girlfriend let me know she knew this guy from high school who was a football player/ pothead in high school. She had known him since kindergarten. Everyone who went to college or became functional after college knows he’s crazy so she doesn’t like to say she’s friends with him.

He exposés socialism and Karl Marx on his Facebook page and is a self proclaimed expert after reading book on the early childhood of Marx.

He thinks life wasn’t fair to him. He Blames others because his sister dipped and he “took care of his dad” for a few years with cancer . Now he still smokes pot to this day but then wonders why he does t have a “family”. He blames others for that too. Now he has medical issues and be just as wants others to be responsible

Basically the guy is sad, he’s hurt and wants to pseudo intellectual talk down to everyone. I’m 43 and my girlfriend and I were kids discussing where is his money going: I believe he makes like 45000 or so which wasn’t bad into bidenomics. So he still lives with his father, drives and older truck so his pot habit and his bad dating decisions are the only thing we could determine his money went toward.

So usually what I’ve found with men who vote dem is they are government employees, where brought up brainwashed and think Lincoln was a democrats or victims of some way the perceive life wasn’t fair and the reason their life sucks is life isn’t fair and want people to take care of people like them.

My grandfather once voted dem but the den party isn’t the den party that southern men used to vote for.

I can see you would really struggle to reconcile me with your very particular worldview

 

[brimur]

Good work getting to where you can pay 100's of thousand in taxes. I grew up dirt poor in NGA. Would not have been able to afford going to college if I had not gotten an athletic scholarship to do so. I had to work as well because my folks had no money to give me. Neither of them attended college and both came from dirt poor families. However, it seems the difference between me and you is that my parents taught me that govt aid is only good in the short term. Dems, try to keep folks on govt aid as a vote buying tool. Remember, obuma stopped the work for welfare check law. If someone can work they should be more than happy to work for help instead of staying home and waiting on the govt check. The Bible says that if a man "won't" work, he shouldn't eat. The Bible also says it is our duty to help the helpless. If they can't work because of disability etc. pubs do not have a problem with govt assistance. In fact, there are many studies that show conservatives are much more charitable than democrats. Democrats always want to take other peoples money to help others. I guess its how they soothe their conscience. Further, govt is always the most inefficient method of helping others. Fraud, waste, too many bureaucrats, etc. We also do not need to be paying for ILLEGAL immigrants. That is just another vote buying scam by democrats. It has nothing to do with chairity. The rush to make them citizens and get them voting shows the real reason.

2. Florida, where I live now has a fantastic republican governor. Here every child is fed breakfast and lunch at school. The argument that dims are more empathetic is not true. If they were, they would bee the most giving group. Check bidens charitable contributions. PAULTRY as a percentage of income especially if you factor in the money he and his family took from foreigners.

This is not to say that some dems, maybe you, don't give to good causes at a rate equal to or even greater than pubs. But as a whole, pubs are the most giving. You can look it up.

You make a lot of good points. I do think dems have a problem with assuming the govt is enough to deal with charitable needs and often its the least efficient.

 

[boomer79]

The electoral college is actually quite brilliant. A true democracy is a mobocracy and also disenfranchises not only most of the states but most cities within the larger states too. You could campaign in a handful of major cities and ignore the rest of the country. Or course, this also leads to a small group of cities making law for an entire country which is what you have in most democratic countries. The tail wags the dog.

We have so few competitive areas in the country. The system basically means it comes down to razor thin margins in about 6 states while taking the other 44 almost for granted.

Also it’s people not cities. Cities and states only have disproportionate interest if they make up much of the vote and vote uniformly. One New York City is no different from 1000 little cow pasture towns who actually vote far more uniformally in the popular vote. I don’t know why when you have a place where a lot of people their votes would suddenly become mob rule.

 

[phoenixdawg]

We have so few competitive areas in the country. The system basically means it comes down to razor thin margins in about 6 states while taking the other 44 almost for granted.

Also it’s people not cities. Cities and states only have disproportionate interest if they make up much of the vote and vote uniformly. One New York City is no different from 1000 little cow pasture towns who actually vote far more uniformally in the popular vote. I don’t know why when you have a place where a lot of people their votes would suddenly become mob rule.

republics are not ruled by majority vote for a reason

 

[ugadoc]

I am struck when I’m on here how many people say things like “no self-respecting man can vote for Democrats,” or the like. And it really just occurred to me that y’all probably live in places where men heavily vote GOP so it colors your view a lot.

In northern VA where I live most men vote Dem (not by the same margin as women but still a majority) and even among white people only it is still pretty evenly split with the GOP having a small advantage. That was surprising to me when I moved up here (raised in Habersham County, Georgia- where everybody was a Republican before it was “cool”) but the bottom line is that men are not monolithic across the country. Many of my neighbors are white dudes in the military- and they vote Democratic. Just a different regional culture.

Do most if your neighbors in NOVA work in DC? For government?

 

[TCBDawg]

LMAO on this one..if true, TOTALLY in the minority..

Yeah I’m calling BS on that too. Of all the military personnel that I know it is almost 100% conservative Republican. That includes relatives that work in the Pentagon.

It’s not even close

 

[brimur]

Do most if your neighbors in NOVA work in DC? For government?

Most work in Tysons Corner or the Pentagon/Crystal City - I would say less than 10% work in DC proper. But there is no question many of their jobs are wrapped up in federal government in some way directly or indirectly.

 

[brimur]

Yeah I’m calling BS on that too. Of all the military personnel that I know it is almost 100% conservative Republican. That includes relatives that work in the Pentagon.

It’s not even close

You have relatives that work in the Pentagon? I have probably known over a hundred people to work in the Pentagon and while I probably didn’t know half of their politics, the ones I did know were almost universally moderate Democrats - or maybe most wouldn’t even label themselves Democrats, but they voted for Democrats typically. Most military guys I know just want shit to work. Trump is viewed in the higher levels of the military as a chaos agent. And in the intel community he is loathed for needlessly attacking the intel community which has been a major distraction to their mission. I have heard this repeatedly.

 

[blackpug6]

Why do I picture you screaming this and spitting a little bit on those around you?

if I were you I would not disparage the smart folk,
even if you disagree.
@WyoDawg307 is a wise sumbitch.
probably the only person still here that I have met personally.
don't hold that against him.

 

[ugaboz]

DGAS about the party, just the policies and who will keep me and family safe, fat and happy - monetarily speaking.

and dems wont do that

 

[ugateke24]

It’s interesting because I’ve found some of the higher up n police and military have such narcissistic tendencies to begin with. I know two absolutely kind, women who were treated bad by men in command positions.

It seems like for some reason the higher you go in the ranks those tendencies are more prevalent.

I couldn’t imagine living beside people like that. I could also see them being dex

 

[MarcusBarcus]

I am struck when I’m on here how many people say things like “no self-respecting man can vote for Democrats,” or the like. And it really just occurred to me that y’all probably live in places where men heavily vote GOP so it colors your view a lot.

In northern VA where I live most men vote Dem (not by the same margin as women but still a majority) and even among white people only it is still pretty evenly split with the GOP having a small advantage. That was surprising to me when I moved up here (raised in Habersham County, Georgia- where everybody was a Republican before it was “cool”) but the bottom line is that men are not monolithic across the country. Many of my neighbors are white dudes in the military- and they vote Democratic. Just a different regional culture.

You should move it sounds like your neighbors suck

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

The Constitution is generally a great document but people act like it’s a perfect document written by much wiser people than those alive today.

The genius of the Constitution is the fact that the founders had the wisdom to provide for an amendment process. Iows, we don't have to fight civil wars in order to extend rights to some that have been discriminated against by a function of law. Iows, it doesn't matter if the pols of today are smarter or wiser than the founders because if they do have a better idea or the needs of the country means gun rights need to be eliminated, there is a process. Yes, it's designed to be a difficult process but by the same token, I'd hate to see the right of free speech and assembly being at risk of the will of 1/2 plus one congressional reps, 2/3 of the senate and a tyrannical POTUS.

 

[seatonsdawgs]

Ugh… lived in Virginia for a few years… beautiful state… but it’s everything bad about the south and everything bad about the yankee north… all wrapped into one state…

 

[TimberRidgeDawg]

It does to some extent. You're not gonna win enough electoral votes if you're only getting 35% of the population to vote for you, but I know what you're getting at.


The clear sign for the Democrats that Clinton was weak was that Sanders had so much success without any major backing. But Republicans bought into her as strong thinking Trump has to be incredible if he beat her. Just not the case. A strong candidate beats Biden four years ago. A strong candidate isn't in a dead heat with a candidate that just assumed the lead role a month ago.

Still room if you wanna unify.

Stronly agree.

I’ve always said the Anybody But Hillary vote was primarily responsible for the Obama nomination. If she has been popular like Michelle as First Lady she probably could have won that nomination. Then people held their nose and voted for Trump because he was not Hillary. Donald has never been popular outside of his hard core constituency, Hillary’s deplorables. His. remaining support depends on independent and traditional Republican’s holding their nose and picking him because he’s the lesser of the two evils. That got him my vote the last two elections but I’ve finally had enough. I’m not voting for him or Harris, who has no business being president and will only win because she’s not geriatric and not DJT or Joe Biden. I was going to put down Kennedy as a protest vote knowing he wouldn’t win but at this time I’m probably just going to leave it blank and vote the down ticket races. This is the most pathetic, disgusting presidential race of my lifetime.

 

[rawbdawg]

I have been in the defense industry for the past 20 years, The only thing that keeps us from cranking out weapons systems for all these foreign wars is the mandatory DEI training we have to take every week! Yes. it is very clear who the defense industry wants there employees voting for, so yes, it makes sense that Mclean VA votes for DEMs. Hell, the company I work for sponsored Olympic athletes this year and guess what they made clear in the press briefing, "all our sponsored athletes are from the LBTG+ community"
And another ugly truth no one wants to talk about, this new group of military men and women aren't your parents soldiers, the military is quickly becoming a welfare program due to there disability programs.

DEI …is a big lie. There is no data to support a link between exec diversity and profitability.
McKinsey came out after the fact and admitted the same. It’s a big f’ing joke.

 

[WyoDawg307]

Why do I picture you screaming this and spitting a little bit on those around you?

Swing and a miss, but why do I imagine you are a beta male?