Thankfully Trump has now cleared it all up for us.....

[kckd]

No. I am pissed that you put compromised and unqualified people in the White House.

This is hilarious. Again I'm not a Democrat. Just prefer reality to conspiracy theories.

Did your great POTUS be a guest on Alex Jones show?

Yes.

Does he dabble in conspiracy theories?

Yes.

Is he continuing to support those who do for congress?

Yes.


Is your party continuing to vote them into office?

Yes.

I don't like everything Democrats are doing. But at least whatever decisions they make, they're made based on reality. Now what they propose may not work. But they aren't trying to tell you the other party has a huge group of pedophiles who meet at a pizza joint and kidnap kids and put them in the basement.

They're not telling you that kids who die in mass shootings never really existed or are alive somewhere on an island with Elvis.

They're not telling you that Jews and Nazis are working together to ruin the US.

They're not trying to ban Anne Frank's Diary. Yes, Anne Frank's Diary. You know, to fight back against the Nazi ideas. https://www.timesofisrael.com/adaptation-of-anne-franks-diary-banned-by-texas-school-district/

I really don't where you are at here Zinger. But the bottom line is if you are a true Pub, you need to get you and your party away from all this BS before you can really hone in on policy. I gladly would like to talk policy. But I'm not gonna discuss with people that keep voting for politicians that believe Jews are controlling satellites in space for evil purposes etc. Get rid of your crazies and speak out about them. Then attack those you think are crazy in the other party.

I mean, you're the party of evangelicals. Take your medicine.

Matthew 7:5. "Remove the 2 by 4 from your own eye. Then you can see clearly to remove the speck of dust from your brother's eye."

 

[zingerdawg]

This is hilarious. Again I'm not a Democrat. Just prefer reality to conspiracy theories.

Did your great POTUS be a guest on Alex Jones show?

Yes.

Does he dabble in conspiracy theories?

Yes.

Is he continuing to support those who do for congress?

Yes.


Is your party continuing to vote them into office?

Yes.

I don't like everything Democrats are doing. But at least whatever decisions they make, they're made based on reality. Now what they propose may not work. But they aren't trying to tell you the other party has a huge group of pedophiles who meet at a pizza joint and kidnap kids and put them in the basement.

They're not telling you that kids who die in mass shootings never really existed or are alive somewhere on an island with Elvis.

They're not telling you that Jews and Nazis are working together to ruin the US.

They're not trying to ban Anne Frank's Diary. Yes, Anne Frank's Diary. You know, to fight back against the Nazi ideas. https://www.timesofisrael.com/adaptation-of-anne-franks-diary-banned-by-texas-school-district/

I really don't where you are at here Zinger. But the bottom line is if you are a true Pub, you need to get you and your party away from all this BS before you can really hone in on policy. I gladly would like to talk policy. But I'm not gonna discuss with people that keep voting for politicians that believe Jews are controlling satellites in space for evil purposes etc. Get rid of your crazies and speak out about them. Then attack those you think are crazy in the other party.

I mean, you're the party of evangelicals. Take your medicine.

Matthew 7:5. "Remove the 2 by 4 from your own eye. Then you can see clearly to remove the speck of dust from your brother's eye."

Holy shit. What was that. It is time to step away from the computer for a minute. Are you ok? Some of that was bringing it back down. Yes. The right has crazies. But so do the left. And the progressives, radical nut jobs are pulling the strings. Pelosi and even aoc had her hands all over this last bill. You are the party of socialists. That isn’t what this country was founded on. Or supposed to be about. We keep sliding more towards government control by the minute. That is the scary part. And you breath in all the radical fear porn about the right. Racism. Right. Crazies. The guy you elected is the biggest racist to take office in 70 years. His track record is awful. Hell even his vp called him a racist. Before the party said we will give you the vp if you retract the statement. Yes. That is who you are behind. The right has issues for sure. But the left is off the rails. And your president is an elderly compromised man. He is in charge thanks to you. You can’t come from the pedestal you put yourself on, when you make that vote. It is embarrassing. I am ashamed to watch him. I feel sorry for him at times. You guys are sick. See how easy that is flipped. I admitted the issues on the right. Admit you voted for a compromised bigot. And I will meet you more in the middle. I called trump an egomaniac. Same bullshit hypocrisy from you. I don’t want a socialist America. So I will never go there until they get away from that line of thinking. Forcing what the left feels is best for us, despite public opinion. Or the damage it will cause.

 

[kckd]

Holy shit. What was that. It is time to step away from the computer for a minute. Are you ok?

Are you? Or are you still looking the other way at the crazy crap those you vote for say they believe. Or do you believe it?

 

[55dawg]

No. I'm kckd. But what enemies has he had arrested?

Are you serious

 

[zingerdawg]

Are you? Or are you still looking the other way at the crazy crap those you vote for say they believe. Or do you believe it?

Dude you voted for an elderly compromised bigot. And you think he is great. His own vp called him a racist. Get down off the high horse. You are limping in with socialists. Sure the right has issues. But the left is being run by radicals. Hell trump governed more toward the middle. That is documented. Every policy they pass only helps one side of the equation. Period. It is amazing. And what has happened. A cluster f. Use your common sense. What should that tell you. It doesn’t work. Time for a change. Doesn’t have to be trump. But the left is dangerous and continually proves it. This last bill has no chance to work, and is targeted to f with the middle class. And you guys are after trump like the man who John holmed your wife and made you watch. Let it go.

 

[kckd]

Dude you voted for an elderly compromised bigot. And you think he is great. His own vp called him a racist. Get down off the high horse. You are limping in with socialists. Sure the right has issues. But the left is being run by radicals. Hell trump governed more toward the middle. That is documented. Every policy they pass only helps one side of the equation. Period. It is amazing. And what has happened. A cluster f. Use your common sense. What should that tell you. It doesn’t work. Time for a change. Doesn’t have to be trump. But the left is dangerous and continually proves it. This last bill has no chance to work, and is targeted to f with the middle class. And you guys are after trump like the man who John holmed your wife and made you watch. Let it go.

And you are probably not gonna get the Senate back with one of the worst opening two years we've seen by a Democrat in decades. Why is that?

All you can do is insult and talk about obsession with Trump. Your folk are obsessed with non reality.

Vote stealing, but no evidence.

FBI planting things, but no evidence.

False flags at school shootings, but no evidence.

These are your people (maybe you), but your politicians who know better, look the other way and let them go on with their baseless shiola because it helps them (or hurts them if they say speak out).

It's not different than Trump not wanting to distance himself from David Duke. Morals and ethics are not decided by your actions, but which party you like. And support for Republicans, well that means you are a good person no matter what your personal beliefs are.

Reality. It may not be what you want to hear, but we can't live in Oz forever.

 

[kckd]

Are you serious

Are you having trouble reading?

 

[zingerdawg]

And you are probably not gonna get the Senate back with one of the worst opening two years we've seen by a Democrat in decades. Why is that?

All you can do is insult and talk about obsession with Trump. Your folk are obsessed with non reality.

Vote stealing, but no evidence.

FBI planting things, but no evidence.

False flags at school shootings, but no evidence.

These are your people (maybe you), but your politicians who know better, look the other way and let them go on with their baseless shiola because it helps them (or hurts them if they say speak out).

It's not different than Trump not wanting to distance himself from David Duke. Morals and ethics are not decided by your actions, but which party you like. And support for Republicans, well that means you are a good person no matter what your personal beliefs are.

Reality. It may not be what you want to hear, but we can't live in Oz forever.

Haha. The things you just mentioned. The three things all have to do with trump. Every one of them. You were defending yourself about not having a trump obsession. Then mention three things all started by trump. Lol. You can’t help yourself. It is breathtaking your obsession. You are like most middle guys on this board, and guys I know. Some of whom are as good people as you could ever hope to meet. But it all starts with trump. Just like you. I hope you find relief from your tds. I really do.

Being a pub or dem doesn’t make you a better person. The dem policies aren’t working. That is clear. Common sense tells you change is coming. You keep mentioning David dukes or people like him. You elected someone like him. He has just changed to believe whatever someone tells Biden he should today. He doesn’t stand behind anything in his past. You just glossed right over Kamala calling him a racist.

The same way trump distanced himself from dukes, is surely the same way you would distance yourself from the kindergarten teacher wanting to cover their possible transition of gender with the kids. Those middle folks who hate trump I spoke of get sick thinking about that. I bet you do to. Trump didn’t start that so no need to be obsessed

 

[Zonadog]

This is hilarious. Again I'm not a Democrat. Just prefer reality to conspiracy theories.

Did your great POTUS be a guest on Alex Jones show?

Yes.

Does he dabble in conspiracy theories?

Yes.

Is he continuing to support those who do for congress?

Yes.


Is your party continuing to vote them into office?

Yes.

I don't like everything Democrats are doing. But at least whatever decisions they make, they're made based on reality. Now what they propose may not work. But they aren't trying to tell you the other party has a huge group of pedophiles who meet at a pizza joint and kidnap kids and put them in the basement.

They're not telling you that kids who die in mass shootings never really existed or are alive somewhere on an island with Elvis.

They're not telling you that Jews and Nazis are working together to ruin the US.

They're not trying to ban Anne Frank's Diary. Yes, Anne Frank's Diary. You know, to fight back against the Nazi ideas. https://www.timesofisrael.com/adaptation-of-anne-franks-diary-banned-by-texas-school-district/

I really don't where you are at here Zinger. But the bottom line is if you are a true Pub, you need to get you and your party away from all this BS before you can really hone in on policy. I gladly would like to talk policy. But I'm not gonna discuss with people that keep voting for politicians that believe Jews are controlling satellites in space for evil purposes etc. Get rid of your crazies and speak out about them. Then attack those you think are crazy in the other party.

I mean, you're the party of evangelicals. Take your medicine.

Matthew 7:5. "Remove the 2 by 4 from your own eye. Then you can see clearly to remove the speck of dust from your brother's eye."

I'm not going to pull one sentence out of your post and use it to try to dismiss the whole thing, but I believe one reference to be a bit overstated.

The brouha in Texas is not over The Diary of a Young Girl" by Anne Frank, but a graphic adaptation of the book which is heavily abridged and focuses on the author's metaphors and imagery. Some of that comes down to graphic depictions of underage sex without the full context, and I believe that is at the heart of the issue. Nobody asked to remove the original work from schools. And if they did, I would agree that's too far.

Speaking of pedophiles and sex trafficking, how's that FBI investigation into Epstein's client list coming? They've had it for 3 years now? Now they have Maxwell's input, too. A little work on that item would tone down some of the criticism. And its just overdue, don't you think?

Personally, I live in a part of the world where we often hear about young women and girls disappearing and being transported back and forth across the border for the sex trade. So yeah, we're gonna keep talking about that. Especially because we've had some well known public figures involved here in AZ.

 

[kckd]

I'm not going to pull one sentence out of your post and use it to try to dismiss the whole thing, but I believe one reference to be a bit overstated.

The brouha in Texas is not over The Diary of a Young Girl" by Anne Frank, but a graphic adaptation of the book which is heavily abridged and focuses on the author's metaphors and imagery. Some of that comes down to graphic depictions of underage sex without the full context, and I believe that is at the heart of the issue. Nobody asked to remove the original work from schools. And if they did, I would agree that's too far.

Right. But it's still a conservative group who changed the rules on how books could be challenged and basically making where one person can have the book pulled from the shelf for review. Currently the Bible is also being reviewed and not on the shelf.

As far as the author's metaphors and imagery, this is directly from her diary. the original:

Thursday, January 6, 1944
But I had these feelings even before my period … I remember particularly one time when I spent the night at Jacque’s.
“Um … Jacque … could we show each other our breasts?”
“Why?”
“As proof of our friendship.”
“Absolutely not!”
If only she had known of my terrible desire to kiss her … I must admit, every time I see a female nude, I go into ecstasy. If only I had a girlfriend!

Speaking of pedophiles and sex trafficking, how's that FBI investigation into Epstein's client list coming? They've had it for 3 years now? Now they have Maxwell's input, too. A little work on that item would tone down some of the criticism. And its just overdue, don't you think? Who do you think is linked to Epstein and knowingly having sex with teen girls? Do you have any proof of it? I've heard about the British prince, but who else. I mean if you are gonna say the Clintons because they knew him, well the Don knew him and hung out with him as well.

Personally, I live in a part of the world where we often hear about young women and girls disappearing and being transported back and forth across the border for the sex trade. So yeah, we're gonna keep talking about that. Especially because we've had some well known public figures involved here in AZ. No one said you can't talk about it. But be honest about it.
This isn't honesty. It ruined a man's life.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...zzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

Propping up Alex Jones as the guys who are telling you the truth is abhorrent. The POTUS going on his show gives him legitimacy to many folk. It's abhorrent. Do you like Trey Gowdy? What do you think of this?

 

[Zonadog]

Zonadog said:
I'm not going to pull one sentence out of your post and use it to try to dismiss the whole thing, but I believe one reference to be a bit overstated.

The brouha in Texas is not over The Diary of a Young Girl" by Anne Frank, but a graphic adaptation of the book which is heavily abridged and focuses on the author's metaphors and imagery. Some of that comes down to graphic depictions of underage sex without the full context, and I believe that is at the heart of the issue. Nobody asked to remove the original work from schools. And if they did, I would agree that's too far.

Right. But it's still a conservative group who changed the rules on how books could be challenged and basically making where one person can have the book pulled from the shelf for review. Currently the Bible is also being reviewed and not on the shelf.

As far as the author's metaphors and imagery, this is directly from her diary. the original:
Thursday, January 6, 1944
But I had these feelings even before my period … I remember particularly one time when I spent the night at Jacque’s.
“Um … Jacque … could we show each other our breasts?”
“Why?”
“As proof of our friendship.”
“Absolutely not!”
If only she had known of my terrible desire to kiss her … I must admit, every time I see a female nude, I go into ecstasy. If only I had a girlfriend!

Speaking of pedophiles and sex trafficking, how's that FBI investigation into Epstein's client list coming? They've had it for 3 years now? Now they have Maxwell's input, too. A little work on that item would tone down some of the criticism. And its just overdue, don't you think?

Who do you think is linked to Epstein and knowingly having sex with teen girls? Do you have any proof of it? I've heard about the British prince, but who else. I mean if you are gonna say the Clintons because they knew him, well the Don knew him and hung out with him as well.

Personally, I live in a part of the world where we often hear about young women and girls disappearing and being transported back and forth across the border for the sex trade. So yeah, we're gonna keep talking about that. Especially because we've had some well known public figures involved here in AZ.

No one said you can't talk about it. But be honest about it.
This isn't honesty. It ruined a man's life.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...zzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

Propping up Alex Jones as the guys who are telling you the truth is abhorrent. The POTUS going on his show gives him legitimacy to many folk. It's abhorrent. Do you like Trey Gowdy? What do you think of this?

I've read the book. I know what's in it. I'm also of the opinion that it should be read in high school, especially at first reading, as it was written. Not abridged. Not embellished. Not a graphic adaptation of parts of the book. As I said before, nobody questioned the inclusion of the original work.

I also said that we're going to keep talking about pedophiles and attempts to work pedophilia into mainstream of society and education because it is a disturbing negative trend. "Pizzagate" notwithstanding. I don't have any room to comment on that specific item, don't have any insight about it.

If you're concerned about people's lives being ruined, we've seen a number of US citizens lose their livelihood and their property because the federal government not only fails to give a damn about the border, the influx of listed terrorists, illegals overwhelming small local communities, cartel criminals controlling US land, ever increasing black market drug traffic and human trafficking, but ACTIVELY INTERFERES with state and local law enforcement trying to control it.

Fentanyl is the leading cause of death in this country among young adults because the federal government doesn't give a damn about stopping it. Now they're making it in rainbow colors to appeal more to younger kids. Literally looks like candy.

The Epstein/Maxwell case is noteworthy, since now 2 people have been given long sentences for trafficking young women and girls to (apparently) no one? Why isn't anyone in the FBI busting a gut to round these people up? It's a question. I didn't speculate about names. What do you think is the reason for not moving on that for 3 years and counting?

I don't think I've ever propped up Alex Jones. I know he's turned up a lot of wild stories, some have turned out to be true, and some not so much . No idea what his batting average is. I know who Trey Gowdy is (former true crime reporter), but I don't watch cable news.

I'll say this, Alex Jones deserves due process and Constitutional rights. Ted Kaczynski had the right to a fair trial, so did Dzochar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and so does Alex Jones (who is in no way comparable to those other guys). He's not getting that.

 

[kckd]

I've read the book. I know what's in it. I'm also of the opinion that it should be read in high school, especially at first reading, as it was written. Not abridged. Not embellished. Not a graphic adaptation of parts of the book. As I said before, nobody questioned the inclusion of the original work. My point is that many are trying to say the author took some kind of weird turn to push homosexuality. Whether she was a confused young girl or actually really attracted to the same sex, it wasn't some giant leap there.

I also said that we're going to keep talking about pedophiles and attempts to work pedophilia into mainstream of society and education because it is a disturbing negative trend. "Pizzagate" notwithstanding. I don't have any room to comment on that specific item, don't have any insight about it. Again, you don't have to lie to talk about them. I remember a friend of mine who was sending me non stop emails decades ago about the Clintons. I'd of course email him back with plenty of real news sites and fact checking saying there was no evidence and questioning why wouldn't Fox cover it if it was. They don't mind going after the Clintons. His response was "Is it wrong to like about the devil?" My response was "Do you need to lie about the devil? Isn't the truth enough?" Sex trafficking is a problem. For sure, talk about it. But making stuff up actually hurts your cause and could make some believe all of it is a lie.

If you're concerned about people's lives being ruined, we've seen a number of US citizens lose their livelihood and their property because the federal government not only fails to give a damn about the border, the influx of listed terrorists, illegals overwhelming small local communities, cartel criminals controlling US land, ever increasing black market drug traffic and human trafficking, but ACTIVELY INTERFERES with state and local law enforcement trying to control it. This is "whataboutism" at it's finest. "I don't have a good answer for this, so I'll bring up something else instead of having to defend it on its own merit."

Fentanyl is the leading cause of death in this country among young adults because the federal government doesn't give a damn about stopping it. Now they're making it in rainbow colors to appeal more to younger kids. Literally looks like candy. Again, "whatboutism". When have I said anything about Fentanyl not being a problem or we shouldn't try to do something about it?

The Epstein/Maxwell case is noteworthy, since now 2 people have been given long sentences for trafficking young women and girls to (apparently) no one? Why isn't anyone in the FBI busting a gut to round these people up? It's a question. I didn't speculate about names. What do you think is the reason for not moving on that for 3 years and counting? Well there has been at least one. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-jeffrey-epstein-brunel-rape-arrest-20201217-xnkpw7dxv5hn3cz6u42bmjiv7m-story.html

Perhaps they are continuing to interview and build a case. Or maybe the powerful are buying their way out. But I say this for all of the people simply linked to them through business (this includes Trump and Dershowitz), certainly Epstein had interactions with people who did not have sex with teenagers. That said, Clinton's problems and prior rape accusation would not leave me shocked if he is involved. Neither would DJT considering he's paid money to have sex with women and then paid them off not to say anything about it.

I don't think I've ever propped up Alex Jones. I know he's turned up a lot of wild stories, some have turned out to be true, and some not so much . No idea what his batting average is. I know who Trey Gowdy is (former true crime reporter), but I don't watch cable news. Have no idea what you are talking about here. I guess this is some kind of joke.

I'll say this, Alex Jones deserves due process and Constitutional rights. Ted Kaczynski had the right to a fair trial, so did Dzochar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and so does Alex Jones (who is in no way comparable to those other guys). He's not getting that. He got a civil trial. He had a lawyer, and should have been able to get a good one. Have no idea what you are talking about. The guy for years has said these kids are not dead with no real evidence. He claims he's a truth teller and that his show is a news program. In another trial, he admitted that on air he is playing a character. He makes money off of this stuff. It's terrible. Once again, when you defend these kinds of people, you show where about a fourth to a third of the country has gone. Straight down the toilet. Sad.