This is what happens

[cherrydawg]

Dimocrats support terror.

Nolte: Democrats Tolerate Those Who Celebrate Savagery Against Jewish Children

Will Democrats treat those who tolerate those who slaughter children with even a speck of the contempt they hold for Trump supporters?

www.breitbart.com

 

[zingerdawg]

It is mighty frustrating trying to communicate anything with any nuance on here. I said that there is no justification for what happened and that Israel should hunt down and kill every member of Hamas they can find.

I pointed out that nothing in the ME lends itself to simple explanations and was accused of being an antisemite.

You and others on here are the ones saying that a deal that was approved about a month ago is a primary contributor to an attack that had to require many months of planning given the scale and counterintelligence required to pull it off. That’s highly simplistic thinking.

Regarding Putin, we know that Russia and Iran are close military allies and that Putin benefits greatly from the distraction away from Ukraine created by chaos in the ME. As I said before, this attack happening just as resolve for US aid to Ukraine is publicly weakening is a hell of a coincidence, don’t you think? No, I don’t know for sure, but I also don’t believe in that kind of coincidence when it involves a character like Putin. I think that’s a reasonable position to take.

I never said it may not be true. But you said definitely. That isn’t a position. That is acting like it 100 percent true. Which you know leads one way. You didn’t respond to my prediction. Because that is where you are heading. It is just in too bad taste right now to say. And you don’t know if any of that is actually true. It is pure speculation. We know Iran got a shitload of money from Biden. We know Iran harbors terrorists. These are facts. We now also know that attack came really quickly after the check cleared. These are pesky things called facts. Not speculating. Is Biden at fault? We will see if it is a fact. But there are a ton of FACTS not coincidences behind that. Saying that this (money is at fault)definitely happened as well is speculation. I know for a fact mine and others who take this stance is reasonable. You want to find a way to blame putin and somehow trump.

This whole mess is more than likely because of the weakness that holds the office. He isn’t a feared or respected leader. (Unless he pays them to say it)Biden is a laughingstock.

I really don’t care whose indirect fault it is. I choose to blame the ones firing the rockets . You have a whole group of socialist buddies all over the country celebrating this attack and deaths.

 

[Zonadog]

It is mighty frustrating trying to communicate anything with any nuance on here. I said that there is no justification for what happened and that Israel should hunt down and kill every member of Hamas they can find.

I pointed out that nothing in the ME lends itself to simple explanations and was accused of being an antisemite.

You and others on here are the ones saying that a deal that was approved about a month ago is a primary contributor to an attack that had to require many months of planning given the scale and counterintelligence required to pull it off. That’s highly simplistic thinking.

Regarding Putin, we know that Russia and Iran are close military allies and that Putin benefits greatly from the distraction away from Ukraine created by chaos in the ME. As I said before, this attack happening just as resolve for US aid to Ukraine is publicly weakening is a hell of a coincidence, don’t you think? No, I don’t know for sure, but I also don’t believe in that kind of coincidence when it involves a character like Putin. I think that’s a reasonable position to take.

The attacks this past weekend apparently took several months and thousands of people to plan. I doubt Hamas waited for the $6 billion funds release a month ago, but you also have to suppose that they knew about it before then. More likely the $2.76 billion the Biden administration released to Iran in June contributed to this aggression.

That would leave billions more for future attacks. What is the likelihood that pro-Palestinian terrorists have entered the United States through our open border policy, and await instruction on targets to strike in this country to retaliate for US support of Israel?

 

[phoenixdawg]

I’m not sure exactly what you mean, but if you are suggesting that the decision to invade and depose one of the primary counterweights to Iran’s influence in the region based on contrived and manufactured evidence didn’t contribute to the current state of the ME, there probably isn’t much I can say to change your mind. I would have thought that this was universally accepted at this point.

Every administration after Carter has made significant missteps in the ME, including Clinton, Obama and Biden. But the Iraq invasion is likely at the very top of the list and continues to have repercussions to this day.

And I’ll say it again, Putin was definitely involved in the events of the last few days and a war in the ME is extremely helpful in his efforts to force the West away from continuing support for Ukraine. The timing of this event so close to the House failing to approve more funding for Ukraine is one mighty big and convenient coincidence for Putin.

Israel and Iran will likely be at war soon. Where things go from there is anyone’s guess, but it isn’t good. It would be helpful if we had more senior military leadership and ambassadors currently in place.

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you greatly overestimate the efficacy of ambassadors.

 

[willdup]

I never said it may not be true. But you said definitely. That isn’t a position. That is acting like it 100 percent true. Which you know leads one way. You didn’t respond to my prediction. Because that is where you are heading. It is just in too bad taste right now to say. And you don’t know if any of that is actually true. It is pure speculation. We know Iran got a shitload of money from Biden. We know Iran harbors terrorists. These are facts. We now also know that attack came really quickly after the check cleared. These are pesky things called facts. Not speculating. Is Biden at fault? We will see if it is a fact. But there are a ton of FACTS not coincidences behind that. Saying that this (money is at fault)definitely happened as well is speculation. I know for a fact mine and others who take this stance is reasonable. You want to find a way to blame putin and somehow trump.

This whole mess is more than likely because of the weakness that holds the office. He isn’t a feared or respected leader. (Unless he pays them to say it)Biden is a laughingstock.

I really don’t care whose indirect fault it is. I choose to blame the ones firing the rockets . You have a whole group of socialist buddies all over the country celebrating this attack and deaths.

The thread started with the absolute assertion that the attack only happened because of Biden’s hostage deal with Iran, and a number of other posters agreed with that. That’s no more or less proven than Putin’s involvement.

But you are correct, at this point we don’t know much about the origin of the attack.

One thing we do know is that there was an unprecedented intelligence failure by what is arguably the most effective intelligence agency in the world. Israel hasn’t seen a failure even close to this since the Yom Kippur war in ‘73 and prior to this weekend most experts would have suggested a failure to this extent was impossible.

Efforts to determine how that happened will be very interesting to follow.

Regarding our friend Putin, I stand behind the assertion that Russia may be the single biggest beneficiary of chaos in the ME and that the timing of this attack only a week after our failure to approve more funding for Ukraine is noteworthy. It may all be a lucky coincidence for Putin but I think it’s also fair to say that he is not generally one to rely on coincidences and luck to achieve his goals.

 

[jpzd33]

When I say policy choices by Israel and the US have contributed to the current situation, this is the kind of thing I’m referring to. The ME is endlessly complex and every government involved there has made mistakes.

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So you send an opinion article to try and pass blame to Israel. “Hamas was wrong but..” is your stance. Giving justification for terrorism. Justification for the harming and torturing and kidnapping and slaughtering of countless women, children, babies and other innocent human beings. This is a terrorist organization that goes out of their way to make sure as many innocent Palestinian women, children, babies and all innocent Palestinian civilians are murdered just to make Israel look bad. As long as what they do leads to the destruction of the Jews. They don’t care about land disputes or a sovereign nation. They care about murder and destruction of all Jewish people. Finishing the final solution. ANYONE who can find even the slightest justification for this is either extremely ignorant or a hardcore antisemite or BOTH. Supporting and justifying terrorism and nazism is as low and as abhorrent as humanity gets

 

[willdup]

So you send an opinion article to try and pass blame to Israel. “Hamas was wrong but..” is your stance. Giving justification for terrorism. Justification for the harming and torturing and kidnapping and slaughtering of countless women, children, babies and other innocent human beings. This is a terrorist organization that goes out of their way to make sure as many innocent Palestinian women, children, babies and all innocent Palestinian civilians are murdered just to make Israel look bad. As long as what they do leads to the destruction of the Jews. They don’t care about land disputes or a sovereign nation. They care about murder and destruction of all Jewish people. Finishing the final solution. ANYONE who can find even the slightest justification for this is either extremely ignorant or a hardcore antisemite or BOTH. Supporting and justifying terrorism and nazism is as low and as abhorrent as humanity gets

The opinion piece is from one of the largest and most respected newspapers in Israel, so dismissing it as antisemitic seems overly simplistic to say the least. One can categorically condemn what happened over the weekend and those responsible for it while also analyzing all of the contributing factors that led to the attack.

Hamas is going to be eradicated, which I support, and a lot of innocent civilians will also suffer, as is always the case during any war.

I personally experienced the aftermath of the largest terrorist attack in our history and I was happy when we finally held OBL to account. But I also acknowledge that policy choices by the US contributed to creating an environment that allowed a group like Al-Qaeda to grow and thrive. Absolute condemnation of terrorists does not preclude a clear-eyed analysis of what different choices could be made in the future to better protect a given country’s interests. In fact, good leadership requires it. Failure to do so is the kind of thinking that led to the second invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11 and was categorically a mistake by the US.

 

[zingerdawg]

The thread started with the absolute assertion that the attack only happened because of Biden’s hostage deal with Iran, and a number of other posters agreed with that. That’s no more or less proven than Putin’s involvement.

But you are correct, at this point we don’t know much about the origin of the attack.

One thing we do know is that there was an unprecedented intelligence failure by what is arguably the most effective intelligence agency in the world. Israel hasn’t seen a failure even close to this since the Yom Kippur war in ‘73 and prior to this weekend most experts would have suggested a failure to this extent was impossible.

Efforts to determine how that happened will be very interesting to follow.

Regarding our friend Putin, I stand behind the assertion that Russia may be the single biggest beneficiary of chaos in the ME and that the timing of this attack only a week after our failure to approve more funding for Ukraine is noteworthy. It may all be a lucky coincidence for Putin but I think it’s also fair to say that he is not generally one to rely on coincidences and luck to achieve his goals.

Actually, the more I think about it. Your position is a complete reach. And spin to blame putin and your favorite person. Why order the attack now. Funding is at a hault. His chance to win. So if he does this(and it is proven), we absolutely start funding the ukraine again. No way the gop doesn’t leap back in with both feet if he helped facilitate an attack on Israel. This would by far be the dumbest move he could make. Israel doesn’t need our help to win their war. This would only serve a purpose in galvanizing the worlds support against Russia. But you do you.

This is why what you are saying is complete speculation actually. And not worth shit other than to appease lefties who feel guilty.

 

[willdup]

Actually, the more I think about it. Your position is a complete reach. And spin to blame putin and your favorite person. Why order the attack now. Funding is at a hault. His chance to win. So if he does this(and it is proven), we absolutely start funding the ukraine again. No way the gop doesn’t leap back in with both feet if he helped facilitate an attack on Israel. This would by far be the dumbest move he could make. Israel doesn’t need our help to win their war. This would only serve a purpose in galvanizing the worlds support against Russia. But you do you.

This is why what you are saying is complete speculation actually. And not worth shit other than to appease lefties who feel guilty.

You think Iran or Russia are going to openly admit to any collusion on this attack? That’s funny.

You still haven’t even tried to address my assertion that chaos in the ME is highly beneficial for Russia and that Russia has extremely close financial and military ties to Iran. You also haven’t addressed the unprecedented intelligence failure and how that might have happened and or the timing of the attack so close to the recent failure to fund Ukraine.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting that Putin is solely behind the attack. That would be a very weak position. I am saying that a shooting war in the ME, particularly right now, is absolutely a distraction from Ukraine and beneficial for Putin. Given the very close ties to Iran, could he have influenced the timing of this? Absolutely.

Could Putin have played a role in this only to have it all ultimately backfire on him? Sure, much like his decision to invade Ukraine in the first place.

Let’s see if those opposed to further funding for Ukraine use the situation in the ME to bolster their argument or not. I’m guessing they will.

At this point, nearly every POV about the situation includes conjecture, including the assertion that the hostage deal played a role in the attack. If we limited discussion on the Chat to absolutely objective facts, we wouldn’t be spending much time on politics in general, which of course might be a great thing for all of us…

 

[zingerdawg]

You think Iran or Russia are going to openly admit to any collusion on this attack? That’s funny.

You still haven’t even tried to address my assertion that chaos in the ME is highly beneficial for Russia and that Russia has extremely close financial and military ties to Iran. You also haven’t addressed the unprecedented intelligence failure and how that might have happened and or the timing of the attack so close to the recent failure to fund Ukraine.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting that Putin is solely behind the attack. That would be a very weak position. I am saying that a shooting war in the ME, particularly right now, is absolutely a distraction from Ukraine and beneficial for Putin. Given the very close ties to Iran, could he have influenced the timing of this? Absolutely.

Could Putin have played a role in this only to have it all ultimately backfire on him? Sure, much like his decision to invade Ukraine in the first place.

Let’s see if those opposed to further funding for Ukraine use the situation in the ME to bolster their argument or not. I’m guessing they will.

At this point, nearly every POV about the situation includes conjecture, including the assertion that the hostage deal played a role in the attack. If we limited discussion on the Chat to absolutely objective facts, we wouldn’t be spending much time on politics in general, which of course might be a great thing for all of us…

Intelligence can’t find out if putin ordered the code red? Are we really saying this.


This makes no sense at all. If this ever comes to light. Which I am sure it will. Because you don’t do this without taking credit. And most terrorists love to give full credit. I am sure putin would find terrorists trustworthy like every one else does. Smh.

I get your point on this. How everyone on the left would want to tie this back to putin. I also know the connection is there. But this would be by far the dumbest thing to do. We are already fighting amongst ourselves to support the ukraine. Why give us a reason to double down. Not only that, if he is found to have fostered a terrorist attack he would be toxic to even China. Imo, the dumbest thing he could do. But the only spin you have left. So I get it.

If You Don't Want Blame For Appeasing Hamas, Stop Doing It

Hamas and Iran keep telling us exactly what they’re going to do, and Democrats keep pretending they don’t mean it.

thefederalist.com

 

[deadduckdawg]

Intelligence can’t find out if putin ordered the code red? Are we really saying this.


This makes no sense at all. If this ever comes to light. Which I am sure it will. Because you don’t do this without taking credit. And most terrorists love to give full credit. I am sure putin would find terrorists trustworthy like every one else does. Smh.

I get your point on this. How everyone on the left would want to tie this back to putin. I also know the connection is there. But this would be by far the dumbest thing to do. We are already fighting amongst ourselves to support the ukraine. Why give us a reason to double down. Not only that, if he is found to have fostered a terrorist attack he would be toxic to even China. Imo, the dumbest thing he could do. But the only spin you have left. So I get it.

If You Don't Want Blame For Appeasing Hamas, Stop Doing It

Hamas and Iran keep telling us exactly what they’re going to do, and Democrats keep pretending they don’t mean it.

thefederalist.com

Excellent article. One thing’s for sure, Iran’s involvement, despite Blinken and the dems looking to excuse them.

 

[jpzd33]

The opinion piece is from one of the largest and most respected newspapers in Israel, so dismissing it as antisemitic seems overly simplistic to say the least. One can categorically condemn what happened over the weekend and those responsible for it while also analyzing all of the contributing factors that led to the attack.

Hamas is going to be eradicated, which I support, and a lot of innocent civilians will also suffer, as is always the case during any war.

I personally experienced the aftermath of the largest terrorist attack in our history and I was happy when we finally held OBL to account. But I also acknowledge that policy choices by the US contributed to creating an environment that allowed a group like Al-Qaeda to grow and thrive. Absolute condemnation of terrorists does not preclude a clear-eyed analysis of what different choices could be made in the future to better protect a given country’s interests. In fact, good leadership requires it. Failure to do so is the kind of thinking that led to the second invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11 and was categorically a mistake by the US.

Yea it's one of the most respected newspapers. It is an extremely liberal newspaper. And even if it were the most conservative newspaper in the world, the piece you referenced is still an opinion piece. But just like America, Israel has liberal newsources that often speak out their opinions against the government. Why? BECAUSE ISRAEL IS A TRUE DEMOCRACY. They are the ONLY true democracy in the region.

So continue to justify terrorism and nazism. Placing the blame on the Israeli government. There is ZERO gray area to what is going on in Israel. These actions are not being taken by a nations military (there is NO SUCH THING as the nation of Palestine), and this group is not a military, they are a group of TERRORISTS. These attacks, and preceding attacks on Israel, have nothing to do with Israeli settlements. Only the most ignorant naive or antisemitic human beings believe that. It is to destroy and kill the Jewish people. The mission statement is not to have a state of Palestine. Or get Israel to stop settlements in their territory (which is territory that Israel GENEROUSLY gave them to allow them to try and govern themselves in peace, which has really worked so well). Their mission is to kill every single Jewish person. That is it. So any attempt at finding reason or justification for why these evil terrorists are doing this is ignorant or antisemitic or both. There is no intelligent discussion that can take place to someone who find any reasoning as to why this is happening other than these are evil terrorists and that is all. Nothing else. Nothing

 

[Gfunk20]

The $6B was never given to Iran or Hamas. It’s sitting in Qatar banks, controlled by the US and only able to be transferred to 3rd parties engaged in humanitarian aid work.

Also, none has been spent.

“The Biden administration wishes us to believe that money will be used for humanitarian purposes, despite Iran’s Ayatollah saying Iran would use it however they wanted. Never mind that money is fungible and $6 billion for food can be used for arms while the $6 billion from Biden can now be used for food.

The Biden Administration also says the money is still in a Qatari bank account. Be advised that Qatar has come out praising Hamas’s attacks on Israel. So how exactly can we be sure the money is still there?

The hard truth is that it is easy to go after Biden for the $6 billion, but this attack has been planned for a long time — far longer than the money has been available.”

 

[mitchelldawg]

Yea it's one of the most respected newspapers. It is an extremely liberal newspaper. And even if it were the most conservative newspaper in the world, the piece you referenced is still an opinion piece. But just like America, Israel has liberal newsources that often speak out their opinions against the government. Why? BECAUSE ISRAEL IS A TRUE DEMOCRACY. They are the ONLY true democracy in the region.

So continue to justify terrorism and nazism. Placing the blame on the Israeli government. There is ZERO gray area to what is going on in Israel. These actions are not being taken by a nations military (there is NO SUCH THING as the nation of Palestine), and this group is not a military, they are a group of TERRORISTS. These attacks, and preceding attacks on Israel, have nothing to do with Israeli settlements. Only the most ignorant naive or antisemitic human beings believe that. It is to destroy and kill the Jewish people. The mission statement is not to have a state of Palestine. Or get Israel to stop settlements in their territory (which is territory that Israel GENEROUSLY gave them to allow them to try and govern themselves in peace, which has really worked so well). Their mission is to kill every single Jewish person. That is it. So any attempt at finding reason or justification for why these evil terrorists are doing this is ignorant or antisemitic or both. There is no intelligent discussion that can take place to someone who find any reasoning as to why this is happening other than these are evil terrorists and that is all. Nothing else. Nothing

AMEN
Been going on forever......and will continue to.
It ain't Biden, Trump, Dem or Rep fault.
It's a sick twist of religion and as long as there are "believers", it will never stop.

 

[deadduckdawg]

The $6B was never given to Iran or Hamas. It’s sitting in Qatar banks, controlled by the US and only able to be transferred to 3rd parties engaged in humanitarian aid work.

Also, none has been spent.

That you, Karinne? Surely you can’t believe that USG lie. The Grand Poobah already said “We’ll spend it on whatever we need,” which most certainly includes dead Israeli civilians.

 

[deadduckdawg]

AMEN
Been going on forever......and will continue to.
It ain't Biden, Trump, Dem or Rep fault.
It's a sick twist of religion and as long as there are "believers", it will never stop.

Israel has to kill Hamas and make the Palestinians say uncle. Then do it again once the Hamas ranks are refilled with fresh Palestinians filled with hate.

 

[deadduckdawg]

you greatly overestimate the efficacy of ambassadors.

They throw great parties and plow through boatloads of taxpayer money. But, get caught in a coup, get amoebic dysentery, or be an American businessman needing a little help, and they’re nowhere to be found. US embassies are not even very helpful for simple needs like getting some extra pages glued in a passport.

 

[phoenixdawg]

The opinion piece is from one of the largest and most respected newspapers in Israel, so dismissing it as antisemitic seems overly simplistic to say the least. One can categorically condemn what happened over the weekend and those responsible for it while also analyzing all of the contributing factors that led to the attack.

Hamas is going to be eradicated, which I support, and a lot of innocent civilians will also suffer, as is always the case during any war.

I personally experienced the aftermath of the largest terrorist attack in our history and I was happy when we finally held OBL to account. But I also acknowledge that policy choices by the US contributed to creating an environment that allowed a group like Al-Qaeda to grow and thrive. Absolute condemnation of terrorists does not preclude a clear-eyed analysis of what different choices could be made in the future to better protect a given country’s interests. In fact, good leadership requires it. Failure to do so is the kind of thinking that led to the second invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11 and was categorically a mistake by the US.

Clinton could have eradicated OBL after the Cole but he walked. You are right if he had changed his policy 9/11 probably doesn’t happen.

 

[phoenixdawg]

They throw great parties and plow through boatloads of taxpayer money. But, get caught in a coup, get amoebic dysentery, or be an American businessman needing a little help, and they’re nowhere to be found. US embassies are not even very helpful for simple needs like getting some extra pages glued in a passport.

agree, if you want to see cowards go to an embassy in a hot zone. Know it all do nothings that end up getting people killed. Ambassadors are typically on a tax payer funded multi year vacation.

 

[deadduckdawg]

agree, if you want to see cowards go to an embassy in a hot zone. Know it all do nothings that end up getting people killed. Ambassadors are typically on a tax payer funded multi year vacation.

Exactly. In any sort of hot or politically charged country they are only interested in meddling. They’re supposed to help American businesses and citizens with problems. They’re all wrapped up with the CIA people in the embassy and crooked organizations like USAID. I got caught in a nasty coup attempt in Yaounde Cameroon in the mid 80s, hotel was surrounded by tanks, room to room searches. The US embassy would not even answer the phone for a week. Finally the Canadian embassy got me on an Interflug flight to East Berlin after a Canadian business guy in the hotel asked them to help me. I arrived in East Berlin with no visa and it wasn’t much better than Cameroon. Have not been a fan of US embassies since.

 

[willdup]

This makes no sense at all. If this ever comes to light. Which I am sure it will. Because you don’t do this without taking credit. And most terrorists love to give full credit. I am sure putin would find terrorists trustworthy like every one else does. Smh.

I get your point on this. How everyone on the left would want to tie this back to putin. I also know the connection is there. But this would be by far the dumbest thing to do. We are already fighting amongst ourselves to support the ukraine. Why give us a reason to double down. Not only that, if he is found to have fostered a terrorist attack he would be toxic to even China. Imo, the dumbest thing he could do. But the only spin you have left. So I get it.

If You Don't Want Blame For Appeasing Hamas, Stop Doing It

Hamas and Iran keep telling us exactly what they’re going to do, and Democrats keep pretending they don’t mean it.

thefederalist.com

As I said, let’s see how long it takes for those fighting to cut off aid to Ukraine to use the ME as an excuse. Jogging Josh Hawley, a senior member of the Sedition Lobby, didn’t waste any time and I’m sure we will hear more of the same soon enough.

 

[phoenixdawg]

As I said, let’s see how long it takes for those fighting to cut off aid to Ukraine to use the ME as an excuse. Jogging Josh Hawley, a senior member of the Sedition Lobby, didn’t waste any time and I’m sure we will hear more of the same soon enough.

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we can’t fund both. europe can help
with the ukraine.

 

[Papapete11]

As I said, let’s see how long it takes for those fighting to cut off aid to Ukraine to use the ME as an excuse. Jogging Josh Hawley, a senior member of the Sedition Lobby, didn’t waste any time and I’m sure we will hear more of the same soon enough.

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What would be your nickname for Biden and Harris? So curious. You start first, then I go!

 

[willdup]

What would be your nickname for Biden and Harris? So curious. You start first, then I go!

I generally try to avoid the cutesy nicknames, but my enmity for Hawley in particular is nearly boundless. My apologies.

Sleepy Joe remains solid for
Biden. I’m sure the Harris nicknames are deeply misogynistic so I think I’ll pass on that one.

 

[Zonadog]

I generally try to avoid the cutesy nicknames, but my enmity for Hawley in particular is nearly boundless. My apologies.

Sleepy Joe remains solid for
Biden. I’m sure the Harris nicknames are deeply misogynistic so I think I’ll pass on that one.

Is Kneepads misogynistic?

 

[deadduckdawg]

Is Kneepads misogynistic?

Willie’s Willie Wanker? Nah, that’s gotta be misogynistic.

 

[MassachusettsDawg]

I generally try to avoid the cutesy nicknames, but my enmity for Hawley in particular is nearly boundless. My apologies.

Sleepy Joe remains solid for
Biden. I’m sure the Harris nicknames are deeply misogynistic so I think I’ll pass on that one.

Which Kamala nicknames are “deeply misogynistic”?

 

[Moosefish]

I’m sure the Harris nicknames are deeply misogynistic so I think I’ll pass on that one.

I wish criticism of females on the "left" didn't bring an almost automatic claim of misogyny. Especially when females on the "right" often don't get the same consideration.

"Misogyny" should be reserved for actual applications of it. I fully believe that women in positions of power are both strong enough & smart enough to defend themselves from criticism & those that don't allow them to do so are often what they claim others are.

Source: Grew up with & married to capable & strong females

 

[Bells76]

The $6B was never given to Iran or Hamas. It’s sitting in Qatar banks, controlled by the US and only able to be transferred to 3rd parties engaged in humanitarian aid work.

Also, none has been spent.

Horseshit. If that were the case they would have sent it through normal means. Why was it stacked on pallets and sent quietly on planes. Why were pallets of cash used instead of normal means? Non-traceable liquidity is great for illegal transactions. you democrats should know that, you’re very good at it

 

[DTwnDawg]

The $6B was never given to Iran or Hamas. It’s sitting in Qatar banks, controlled by the US and only able to be transferred to 3rd parties engaged in humanitarian aid work.

Also, none has been spent.

And you probably believe in the tooth fairy too…it gives the Iranian‘s $6 Bil to spend on money that otherwise would have been allocated for “humanitarian aid work” or whatever else they wanted to spend it on. But you keep believing that. The Democrat adults are back in charge again and oh what a hell of a mess this world has become since! One disaster after another.

Iranian president says Tehran will spend the $6 billion released in prisoner exchange ‘wherever we need it’

Biden administration officials have said that the funds, the proceeds of Iranian oil sales to South Korea, can only be spent on humanitarian purposes.

www.nbcnews.com